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Lotus 10-31-2011 03:01 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;854300]Part of having a running game is not ever allowing Ryan Torain to lead your team in carries. [B]We're failing miserably at running not because we don't have the talent to do it, but because we're not committed to succeeding while running. We run just to say we did.[/B]

Now, we're committed to trying to make a passing "attack" out of our current personnel. Our bread and butter is the pass. But we're hilariously under-talented there. What we haven't committed to is bringing in players that would make the passing game click, instead opting for Donte Stallworth and John Beck.[/quote]

That was my argument in several posts above. I tebow to your post.

GMScud 10-31-2011 03:04 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;854326]Hey, remember the Spurrier era? The worst head coach in team history?

The Redskins had better offenses and better teams under Spurrier in both years than Mike Shanahan has.

So I'm pretty shocked that 71% of us don't think his seat should be getting hot.[/quote]

I agree. I like a few of the individual pieces that Shanny has added to the team (Kerrigan, Trent Williams to name a few), but the overall team performance has been pretty dismal. Plus he's wiffed BIG time with his QB decisions. Doesn't speak very well of you as a HC when you've bungled the most important position on the field numerous times in less than 2 full seasons.

I was never sold on Shanny coming here, and I'm even less sold now than I was the day he was hired. I know things take time and he wasn't coming into an ideal situation by any means, but he's not really doing a lot on a weekly basis to inspire any confidence moving forward. The last few weeks we haven't even looked competitive.

SmootSmack 10-31-2011 03:10 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
The Spurrier era was perhaps the biggest mess I've seen in all my years "in the biz". What's happening now really doesn't compare in my opinion.

Mike Shanahan wasn't my first choice, probably not even my second. But I think you don't quit on him. Not yet at least. I wish we had gotten a QB this past year. And maybe the lockout impacted that decision not to go for one. I mean I know it did, just don't know to what extent. However, I don't feel like Shanahan and Allen and co. are just sitting around twiddling their thumbs in lieu of getting a QB. We are making other personnel moves that I believe will benefit us once we get a QB...which hopefully will be in April 2012...unless Crompton's our guy! (that one's for Lotus)

12thMan 10-31-2011 03:12 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=GMScud;854333]I agree. I like a few of the individual pieces that Shanny has added to the team (Kerrigan, Trent Williams to name a few), but the overall team performance has been pretty dismal. Plus he's wiffed BIG time with his QB decisions. Doesn't speak very well of you as a HC when you've bungled the most important position on the field numerous times in less than 2 full seasons.

I was never sold on Shanny coming here, and I'm even less sold now than I was the day he was hired. I know things take time and he wasn't coming into an ideal situation by any means, but he's not really doing a lot on a weekly basis to inspire any confidence moving forward. The last few weeks we haven't even looked competitive.[/quote]

Completely agree here. I was so hoping I was wrong (still do) about Shanny after the first few games, but he's missed it three times in a row regarding the QB position and deserves some major heat over his mishandling/mis-managing the position.

Unless John Beck provides a major spark and exceeds expectations, I don't know where the team goes from here.

sportscurmudgeon 10-31-2011 03:34 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;854303]ALSO...can someone explain why there wasn't a no huddle offense? I swear if I were Snyder, and thank god I'm not, I'd walk in Redskin Park today and fire Kyle Shanahan.[/quote]


EXCELLENT question! Remember how important it was for the QB to be able to hurry up and run the 2-minute offense? Remember how impressed the coaches were with John Beck and the tempo at which he played?

Here are three games in a row where the Redskins have been behind and there has been no semblance of a hurry-up offense. So what happened to the tempo?

GMScud 10-31-2011 03:36 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;854358]EXCELLENT question! Remember how important it was for the QB to be able to hurry up and run the 2-minute offense? Remember how impressed the coaches were with John Beck and the tempo at which he played?

Here are three games in a row where the Redskins have been behind and there has been no semblance of a hurry-up offense. So what happened to the tempo?[/quote]

Yeah the lack of urgency is really maddening.

Ruhskins 10-31-2011 03:41 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;854358]EXCELLENT question! Remember how important it was for the QB to be able to hurry up and run the 2-minute offense? Remember how impressed the coaches were with John Beck and the tempo at which he played?

Here are three games in a row where the Redskins have been behind and there has been no semblance of a hurry-up offense. So what happened to the tempo?[/quote]

Maybe only Rex had the cardiovascular endurance to run a hurry up offense.

GMScud 10-31-2011 03:45 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=Ruhskins;854361]Maybe only Rex had the cardiovascular endurance to run a hurry up offense.[/quote]

LOL! Good one.

Ruhskins 10-31-2011 04:34 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
Come on Kyle Shanahan, I want to see you do this sometime this season...

[url=http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/7172512/dallas-cowboys-d-coordinator-rob-ryan-says-loss-all-me]Dallas Cowboys D-coordinator Rob Ryan says loss is 'all on me' - ESPN Dallas[/url]

I kid of course...or am I? I must say, seeing Dallas get whopped got me through this terrible loss. Although, I am not looking forward to that game against the Iggles later in the season. Bleh.

Dirtbag59 10-31-2011 04:39 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=Ruhskins;854383]Come on Kyle Shanahan, I want to see you do this sometime this season...

[url=http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/7172512/dallas-cowboys-d-coordinator-rob-ryan-says-loss-all-me]Dallas Cowboys D-coordinator Rob Ryan says loss is 'all on me' - ESPN Dallas[/url]

I kid of course...or am I? I must say, seeing Dallas get whopped got me through this terrible loss. Although, I am not looking forward to that game against the Iggles later in the season. Bleh.[/quote]

These guys need to learn from Jose Mourinho (coach of Real Madrid) and start saying messed up controversial statements if they really want to take the spotlight off their players after a tough loss. These one line statements saying blame me are starting to go almost unnoticed :D

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/apr/28/unicef-jose-mourinho-barcelona-real-madrid]Unicef unmoved by José Mourinho's accusations over referees' Barça bias | Football | guardian.co.uk[/url]

[url=http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/real-madrid-coach-jose-mourinho-attacks-uefa-barcelona-and-unicef-after-champions-league-semi-final-at-bernabeu/story-e6frf423-1226046144335]Mourinho 'disgusted to live in this world' | Football - Soccer | Fox Sports[/url]

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Apparently he does all of this to take the attention away from the players after tough losses.

The Goat 10-31-2011 05:08 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
Rob seems like a stand-up guy at least.

SolidSnake84 10-31-2011 06:22 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
Speaking of coaching, do you think that Rex Grossman will get the starting job back if Beck has another poor game and the skins lose? I mean why not? The season isn't lost per say just yet, but sometimes QBs respond well after benching and who knows, maybe Rex can go back to the way he was the 1st 3 games!!

Beemnseven 10-31-2011 08:06 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=GMScud]I was never sold on Shanny coming here, and I'm even less sold now than I was the day he was hired.[/quote]

[quote=SmootSmack;854340]Mike Shanahan wasn't my first choice, probably not even my second.[/quote]

Okay, just curious: Who did you guys want? Because I don't remember the choices being that plentiful. And now I'm looking around and wondering who would come here if The Crazies actually got their way and Shanahan either resigned or was fired?

NC_Skins 10-31-2011 08:29 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;854340] I wish we had gotten a QB this past year. And maybe the lockout impacted that decision not to go for one.[/quote]


Which QB should they have gone after? Young? (didn't want to come here) Hasslebeck? Injured prone QB with 0 experience in the system. You think he would have held up with that line yesterday?


What QB should we have plucked out of the imaginary QB tree? I keep hearing people say this, but if there isn't anything available, and you feel there aren't any QBs worthy of our draft spot, what do you propose he do?


Let's not even forget the whole lockout up till training camp and the ton of holes this team had prior to the draft and still has.

Even if he did draft a QB at our spot, it means we don't get all those extra picks and have even a worse team than what we have now. Imagine that. Also, would you want your rookie QB sitting behind that line in Buffalo? Kid's confidence would have been shattered, if not his arm.

skinsfan69 10-31-2011 09:38 PM

Re: What's your take on our coaching?
 
[quote=Ruhskins;854383]Come on Kyle Shanahan, I want to see you do this sometime this season...

[URL="http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/7172512/dallas-cowboys-d-coordinator-rob-ryan-says-loss-all-me"]Dallas Cowboys D-coordinator Rob Ryan says loss is 'all on me' - ESPN Dallas[/URL]

I kid of course...or am I? I must say, seeing Dallas get whopped got me through this terrible loss. Although, I am not looking forward to that game against the Iggles later in the season. Bleh.[/quote]

Rob Ryan just needs to STFU. I've never seen an assistant coach talk so much. Garrett needs to tell him to put a muzzle on it.


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