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[quote=SFREDSKIN;875369]I would trade down if Luck, RG3, Blackmon and Kalil are gone and go for the best G to come out in years, [B]David DeCastro[/B]. Our offense would change overnight with this guy.[/quote]

I don't think a guard will drastically change our offense cause a guard can't impact the game like a skill position would. But I certainly would not be opposed to drafting this kid. God knows we need a stud guard on this team.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;883242]Heres a mock that shows us taking Tannehill at #1.

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/slide/nfl/215/NFL-Mock-Draft"]2012 NFL Mock Draft - Rotoworld.com[/URL][/quote]

these mock drafts mean nothing.

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[quote=skinsguy;872143]Well, I believe [B]stockpiling draft picks and continuing to build the team at every position is ultimately THE best way to build a champion,[/B] but I wonder how patient Redskins fans as a whole, as well as Daniel Snyder would be with another Rex lead Redskins team?[/quote]

Exactly. Every needs to be more patient.

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.........sure. half the board wanted to dump Shanahan last season...

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[quote=skinsfan69;883548]Exactly. Every needs to be more patient.[/quote]

I'm an Orioles fan, you can't get anymore patient.

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[quote=WaldSkins;883566]I'm an Orioles fan, you can't get anymore patient.[/quote]

HAHAHAAAA!!

so true

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[quote=WaldSkins;883566]I'm an Orioles fan, you can't get anymore patient.[/quote]

Wrong, you could be a Cubs fan like me :)

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[quote=skinsfan69;883545]He's a project. No way do we take him that high.[/quote]

But what if ... And it's a BIG if ... Tannehill is evaluated and he's ultimately a quarterback that would be the type to excel in the Shanahans' system? ... What do you think they should do?

I think IF this is the case, there shouldn't be any messing around. If you have a quarterback that you like - available at the spot that you're drafting then I believe you can't take the risk of trading down or waiting. This is the position that will make or break an entire nfl organization.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;883652]Wrong, you could be a Cubs fan like me :)[/quote]

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I am a Royals fan so I am there with you.

Re: And with the 6th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the redskins select...........
 

With a million games on the schedule, don't you have to have patience in general as a regular baseball fan?

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[quote=Ruhskins;883737]With a million games on the schedule, don't you have to have patience in general as a regular baseball fan?[/quote]

Boom.p

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;883652]Wrong, you could be a Cubs fan like me :)[/quote]

Atleast the Cubs try to get better

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I we cant reach for RG3 and get peyton manning then trade down and get young stud OL, WR can be upgraded thorugh FA (vjax and Reggie wayne)

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If we have PM, who knows could go Claiborne assuming JB is not there. OL is a good possibility or WR. I have no idea, so many variables out there.

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[quote=warriorzpath;883731]But what if ... And it's a BIG if ... Tannehill is evaluated and he's ultimately a quarterback that would be the type to excel in the Shanahans' system? ... What do you think they should do?

I think IF this is the case, there shouldn't be any messing around. If you have a quarterback that you like - available at the spot that you're drafting then I believe you can't take the risk of trading down or waiting. This is the position that will make or break an entire nfl organization.[/quote]

Ryan Tannehill is not a top 10 pick. He's a mid first round to mid second round pick at best. I don't see Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan reaching for a QB like Tennesee and Minnesota did in last year's NFL draft. The Redskins, if unable to get Griffin III, should then trade back and use their 6th overall pick to acquire a mid 1st round selection and additional picks for the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Then and only then would taking Tannehill be a smart move. At least we still get our QB even if it isn't truly the one we want, and we get more draft choices to fill other holes along the roster.

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1071854-2012-nfl-mock-draft-pick-by-pick-analysis-for-all-32-teams/page/4]2012 NFL Mock Draft: Pick-by-Pick Analysis for All 32 Teams | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;888494][B]Ryan Tannehill is not a top 10 pick.[/B] He's a mid first round to mid second round pick at best. I don't see Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan reaching for a QB like Tennesee and Minnesota did in last year's NFL draft. The Redskins, if unable to get Griffin III, should then trade back and use their 6th overall pick to acquire a mid 1st round selection and additional picks for the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Then and only then would taking Tannehill be a smart move. [B]At least we still get our QB even if it isn't truly the one we want,[/B] and we get more draft choices to fill other holes along the roster.[/quote]

I disagree that Tannehill is not a top-10 pick.

And I also think that not getting our guy at the most important position on the field is foolish. You do whatever it takes to get your guy, not a good enough guy.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;888648][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1071854-2012-nfl-mock-draft-pick-by-pick-analysis-for-all-32-teams/page/4]2012 NFL Mock Draft: Pick-by-Pick Analysis for All 32 Teams | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

Damn. Brockers looks like a monster!

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[quote=Lotus;888680]I disagree that Tannehill is not a top-10 pick.

And I also think that not getting our guy at the most important position on the field is foolish. You do whatever it takes to get your guy, not a good enough guy.[/quote]

I see what what you're saying but, it just seems a bit crazy to reach so far down being so far up at the top of the draft. That would be like MIN taking Riley Reif or DeCastro. It's doesn't seem as crazy further down the draft, picks 15-32 per se.

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[quote=Mechanix544;883399]That mock is a joke, btw[/quote]

No, [URL="http://walterfootball.com/draft2011emmitt.php"]this mock[/URL] is a joke. That mock is just sad.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;888494]Ryan Tannehill is not a top 10 pick. [B]He's a mid first round to mid second round pick at best.[/B] I don't see Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan reaching for a QB like Tennesee and Minnesota did in last year's NFL draft. The Redskins, if unable to get Griffin III, should then trade back and use their 6th overall pick to acquire a mid 1st round selection and additional picks for the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Then and only then would taking Tannehill be a smart move. At least we still get our QB even if it isn't truly the one we want, and we get more draft choices to fill other holes along the roster.[/quote]

Try telling that to the dolphins, bills, seahawks, and even the chiefs and cardinals - all of whom pick at 13 or before. One of these teams - I would bet - pick Tannehill in the first. Tannehill is definitely not a polished qb, but he may have more potential than any other qb with the exception of Luck. In my opinion, the rest of qbs (after luck, RGIII, and Tannehill) aren't even worth the trouble of drafting because they don't seem to have the potential of even starting in the nfl.

The Shanahans are feeling the pressure of drafting their qb of the future in THIS draft- regardless of who they pick up in free agency. If they don't trade up to get RGIII, I think they have no choice but to draft Tannehill with the 6th pick.

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[quote=diehard;888685]I see what what you're saying but, it just seems a bit crazy to reach so far down being so far up at the top of the draft. That would be like MIN taking Riley Reif or DeCastro. It's doesn't seem as crazy further down the draft, picks 15-32 per se.[/quote]

Tannehill should go in the top 10. If he is our guy, waiting for 15-32 is not a good idea 'cuz he'll be gone.

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[quote=Lotus;888690]Tannehill should go in the top 10. If he is our guy, waiting for 15-32 is not a good idea 'cuz he'll be gone.[/quote]

Other than the Skins, who in the top-10 will be crazy enough, I mean, interested enough in taking Tannehill that high?

[QUOTE=diehard;888694]Other than the Skins, who in the top-10 will be crazy, I mean, interested in taking him that high?[/QUOTE]

Miami

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[quote=diehard;888694]Other than the Skins, who in the top-10 will be crazy, I mean, interested in taking him that high?[/quote]

Look at half the teams I listed in my last post.

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[quote=warriorzpath;888696]Look at half the teams I listed in my last post.[/quote]

Only the Bills and Dolphins are in the top 10. I see your point. This is why Tannehill's stock will rise. Not because of anything else related to talent. Teams are desperate. No thanks to Barkley and Jones of course.

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[quote=diehard;888700]Only the Bills and Dolphins are in the top 10.[/quote]

Ok that's 2 out of the 6 teams ... In this league where teams will overpay for a potential franchise qb- you don't think that one of these teams will draft him if he's available. That's at least 6 of the top 13 AFTER the redskins that have a good reason to draft him.

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... But to me if a qb has the potential to be the franchise qb. I don't care if he's drafted at 6 or 60th overall - if that's a need on your team I think you just draft him as soon as possible. And if you think you can take a calculated risk by trading down and still get him then do it. But be ready to feel the pain if the risk backfires when a team drafts him and he's no longer available.

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[quote=warriorzpath;888702]Ok that's 2 out of the 6 teams ... In this league where teams will overpay for a potential franchise qb- you don't think that one of these teams will draft him if he's available. That's at least 6 of the top 13 AFTER the redskins that have a good reason to draft him.[/quote]

You're right Warrioz'. I just don't think Tannehill totally seperates himself from Weeden, Foles, and a couple other prospects. The crazy thing is, four QBs could be selected in the first round. You can't worry about not being able to draft players that get selected before your team picks.

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... how many times can the Shanahans go through an entire offseason and not draft a quarterback that they can develop? I think they have no choice but to draft a qb this time around.

I said early on that Mike Shanahans legacy will depend on what he does with the qb position in Washington.

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The good thing for the Shanahans is that they buy some time by drafting a qb early in the draft. If they don't and whoever at qb in 2012 doesn't produce - that may mean the end for the Shanahan regime. But they also must make this pick count by picking the qb they want.

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^Are you suggesting they go all in for Luck or RG3? Why settle for Tannehill?

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At this point you have to assume that Lucks not a possibility. So my plan A would be to sign Manning and then draft Tannehill at 6 and have him sit for at least one year. My plan B would be - to do whats needed to trade up to 2 to get RGIII.

That's if I were in Mike Shanahans position.

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[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/2/24/2823076/redskins-reportedly-hold-informal-talks-with-the-rams-about-2nd]Redskins Reportedly Hold Informal Talks With the Rams About 2nd Overall Pick - Hogs Haven[/url]

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[quote=CultBrennan59;888718][url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2012/2/24/2823076/redskins-reportedly-hold-informal-talks-with-the-rams-about-2nd]Redskins Reportedly Hold Informal Talks With the Rams About 2nd Overall Pick - Hogs Haven[/url][/quote]

I think it's more beneficial to the redskins that they are having these talks sooner rather than later. Gives them a chance to see if trading up is reasonable for them and it also gives them some time to think through their options.

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[quote=diehard;888706]You're right Warrioz'. I just don't think Tannehill totally seperates himself from Weeden, Foles, and a couple other prospects. The crazy thing is, four QBs could be selected in the first round. You can't worry about not being able to draft players that get selected before your team picks.[/quote]

I can see why you're not convinced of Tannehill's skills right now. I wouldn't consider him to be a pro bowler or elite talent or even a starter, but that's at this current moment. For some reason after seeing some video on him, I have this gut feeling that pairing him up with the Shanahans will make him to one or more of things I listed before. He is very raw but he seems to have the ability to be molded into a potentially great qb. But that's just my opinion.

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^I'm gonna review some vids of him, then I'll sleep on it.

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[quote=warriorzpath;888717]At this point you have to assume that Lucks not a possibility. So my plan A would be to sign Manning and then draft Tannehill at 6 and have him sit for at least one year. My plan B would be - to do whats needed to trade up to 2 to get RGIII.

That's if I were in Mike Shanahans position.[/quote]

I would say switch A and B.

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I think the brown's plan to draft Tannehill at 22

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[quote=diehardskin2982;888751]I think the brown's plan to draft Tannehill at 22[/quote]

He will not be there at 22.