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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1063913]Like some have said, Hatcher signing probably means Bowen gets cut, but still a solid group that can get after the passer and play their gap assignments.[/quote]

Bowen or Golston? Golston goes.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1063921]Bowen or Golston? Golston goes.[/quote]

Releasing Bowen frees up more cap space from the figures others have posted, but I'd prefer if they could redo his deal and keep him as he's more consistent than players like Golston.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1063923]Releasing Bowen frees up more cap space from the figures others have posted, but I'd prefer if they could redo his deal and keep him as he's more consistent than players like Golston.[/quote]

Agreed. Haz loves to alternate his DLs so the more big bodies, the better.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1063923]Releasing Bowen frees up more cap space from the figures others have posted, but I'd prefer if they could redo his deal and keep him as he's more consistent than players like Golston.[/quote]


they probably have to cut Bowen ($7million salary/ $2 ? million cap space) and free up as much cap space as they can.... there are still several possible FA signings

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They can definitely rework some deals to free up another 10-12 million in space.

But you gotta remember that I believe after year three Morris can ask for bigger contract (any player selected after the 1st round can get an year 4 contract upgrade 1st rnd after year 4), Kerrigan, and Orakpo following 2014.

We can't put a ton of cash into the future.

Plus we still have possible cuts along other units. OL guys have been mentioned (Chester, Monty, KL).

We can make whatever moves we want work with the contracts we are paying out.

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[quote=chrisl13;1063912]Ryan Clark is looking more and more likely. Not my first choice but we have minimal options.[/quote]

[quote]RYAN CLARK
Since it began the player-safety crackdown in October 2010, the NFL has legislated Clark’s strengths as a player out of the game. A physical, big-hitting safety who was an intimidating presence in the deep-middle of the field, Clark cannot even attempt to play as he did in helping the team win a lot of games during his first four-plus seasons here. Now an unrestricted free agent who will be 35 in October, Clark would appear to be a guy the Steelers will move on without. The way the game is legislated now, free safeties are more valuable if they’re ball-hawks instead of big-hitters.

[url=http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Steelers-by-position-pre-free-agency-Safety/0b298fdb-3afd-4878-a286-abc95e0cb873]Steelers by position, pre-free agency: Safety[/url]
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[quote]Ryan Clark, however, looked old. Clark has obviously seen the writing on the wall himself. That was clear when Clark spent much of last off-season in Bristol, Connecticut working for ESPN. Clark is a free agent, and I wouldn’t expect to see him playing this year.

[url=http://www.steelcityblitz.com/2014/01/22/state-of-the-steelers-safety/]State of the Steelers: Safety » Steel City Blitz[/url]
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Wouldn't be excited about a declining 35yr old safety filling a leadership role to fix our woeful safety position... But if it happens it happens..

[QUOTE=ICantGoAnother20yrsOfCrap;1063885]You need pressure on the QB to have a good secondary. We had nothing last year. I think the DL moves will make our pee wee secondary at least JV status.[/QUOTE]


Exactly. The Hatcher pick up not only improves the dline push up the middle that was our biggest problem on D, but should really help our secondary - which appeared to be the biggest problem on D. We could have had a couple pro bowlers at safety last year and they still would have been in trouble with the quick pass. This move imo has made FA a success - we didnt break the bank, and we filled a huge hole with one guy. He is 32 but has only been a starter since 2011. He is in great shape for A 32 year old. Should have three primo years left at least. I love this move. Curious as to what his guaranteed money is though.

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I think what the front office is doing is brilliant. They're using free agency for what it's intended for: depth mostly and only signing the big name when it's affordable and a wise decision. Next, they'll use the draft to actually build their championship team.

A lot of you guys old enough to remember should remember that the team that was built during the early 80's - the team that went on to become Super Bowl champions - was a team labeled as misfits and no-names. Sounds familiar!

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[quote=skinsguy;1063981]I think what the front office is doing is brilliant. They're using free agency for what it's intended for: depth mostly and only signing the big name when it's affordable and a wise decision. Next, they'll use the draft to actually build their championship team.

A lot of you guys old enough to remember should remember that the team that was built during the early 80's - the team that went on to become Super Bowl champions - was a team labeled as misfits and no-names. Sounds familiar![/quote]

Yeah, I agree with you. Although I thought Hatcher was a bit steep, they are signing depth and need.

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Saw an interesting video on cbssports.com this morning. NFL analyst Pete Prisco listed his top four remaining FA's. They were Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, Jason Hatcher, Walter Thurmond, and Zach Strief. Other than DRC, who is out of the question financially, this is basically my shopping list.

We just signed Hatcher and Thurmond is us visiting today. IMO, we shouldn't let Thurmond get out of town without signing with us, nor should we waste another minute before trying to sign Strief.

I do have one more player on my list: Chris Clemons. His market seems to be slow, so we might be able to snatch him up with a cap friendly deal.

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[B]Free agent CB Brandon Browner cancelled his visit with the Redskins[/B].

Browner is believed to still be up in the Boston area trying to finalize a deal to join Darrelle Revis and the Patriots. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport initially reported Browner was signing a two-year deal with New England. Browner's agent vehemently denied the report, but we have no reason not to believe a deal will get done.

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[quote=Chico23231;1063987][B]Free agent CB Brandon Browner cancelled his visit with the Redskins[/B].

Browner is believed to still be up in the Boston area trying to finalize a deal to join Darrelle Revis and the Patriots. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport initially reported Browner was signing a two-year deal with New England. Browner's agent vehemently denied the report, but we have no reason not to believe a deal will get done.[/quote]

Would rather have Thurmond anyways.

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[quote=ethat001;1063929]Wouldn't be excited about a declining 35yr old safety filling a leadership role to fix our woeful safety position... But if it happens it happens..[/quote]

honestly I was thinking the same thing ... this signing would be about 8 damn seasons too late... I just don't think this would be a smart way to spend money for us ... I just don't..

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[quote=Chico23231;1063987][B]Free agent CB Brandon Browner cancelled his visit with the Redskins[/B].

Browner is believed to still be up in the Boston area trying to finalize a deal to join Darrelle Revis and the Patriots. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport initially reported Browner was signing a two-year deal with New England. Browner's agent vehemently denied the report, but we have no reason not to believe a deal will get done.[/quote]

PFT is saying it wasn't cancelled, it was moved to today.

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Do we really want Browner? I could pass on this dude

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If we sign only one more guy in the frenzy period, signing an average safety would upgrade us more than signing another average corner.

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[quote=Lotus;1063998]If we sign only one more guy in the frenzy period, signing an average safety would upgrade us more than signing another average corner.[/quote]

I'm not sure how good Browner is coming off suspension/injury, but before that he held his own opposite Sherman. If he still wants to visit here I wouldn't mind bringing him in, but it would have to be a low risk contract considering his suspension.

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Walter Thurmond cancelled his visit with us.

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[quote=chewman;1064009]Walter Thurmond cancelled his visit with us.[/quote]

I hope he gets hit with a flying ice cream truck

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Alot of free agents out there we just need to improve the roster and not get too caught up in winning the offseason.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1063993]PFT is saying it wasn't cancelled, it was moved to today.[/quote]

So is Rotoworld, saying the visit in Boston took longer than expected but they did not get a deal done.

He's coming here today.

[quote=chewman;1064009]Walter Thurmond cancelled his visit with us.[/quote]

He was probably smoking some morning pot and forgot about it.

If we must choose a type of drug offender from Seattle to have on our team, I'd rather have the performance-enhancing offender than the pothead. We've dealt with enough Fred Davises. I suppose Adderall can help him focus and play better.

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I wonder if the twitter war between Sherman and D-Hall last night caused Browner and Thurmond to cancel their visits?

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[quote=mooby;1064008]I'm not sure how good Browner is coming off suspension/injury, but before that he held his own opposite Sherman. If he still wants to visit here I wouldn't mind bringing him in, but it would have to be a low risk contract considering his suspension.[/quote]

You are welcome to your opinion. For me, I agree that he is very good in his strengths. However, you have to scheme around him, as Seattle did. Because his size limits his shiftiness, you can't leave him on an island in certain schemes as you would others. Thus I see him as upper middle class, rather than upper class, at best.

Put differently, Browner may not be the same without Earl Thomas behind him.

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[quote=Lotus;1064023]You are welcome to your opinion. For me, I agree that he is very good in his strengths. However, you have to scheme around him, as Seattle did. Because his size limits his shiftiness, you can't leave him on an island in certain schemes as you would others. Thus I see him as upper middle class, rather than upper class, at best.

Put differently, Browner may not be the same without Earl Thomas behind him.[/quote]

Move him back to safety and he might be better than when he played with Earl Thomas behind him.

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Hatcher said that he signed while visiting Oakland because Washington blew away the market for his services.

The defensive line is the one place where the team is vastly improved over last season.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1064025]Move him back to safety and he might be better than when he played with Earl Thomas behind him.[/quote]

I've been wondering if the Skins might want to try Browner as a FS. He's big, fast, agile, and he hits like a ton of bricks. That would be the kind of creative problem-solving that might help to get us where we want to be.

I also like the fact that Browner is a beast on ST.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1064031]Hatcher said that he signed while visiting Oakland because Washington blew away the market for his services.

The defensive line is the one place where the team is vastly improved over last season.[/quote]

So we ARE willing to pay above market value for a piece of the puzzle that we think is worth it.

I like it, because although the secondary gets a lot of bad press, you can't ask them to cover the receiver like a blanket for 10 seconds while we are still trying to get to the QB.

Increase the pressure on the QB and our secondary (even last year's secondary) looks a whole lot better.

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just stumbled across this gem, didn't think it warranted its own thread; put it here

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Washington_Redskins_players]List of Washington Redskins players - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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No Ryan Clark for now.

Retweeted by John Keim
Ryan Clark ‏@Realrclark25 52m
Redskins fans only following me if I'm going to be a Redskin can unfollow me for now! Still treating me the way they always have. Never know
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does he mean fans showing love? or the organization treating him poorly?

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[quote=Meks;1064058]does he mean fans showing love? or the organization treating him poorly?[/quote]

Probably means undervaluing his worth financially in his opinion. Big mistake to let him go the first time. Not sure what he expects this time around at 35 and looking for a 2 year deal. I wouldn't be surprised either way if it does or doesn't work out.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1064056]No Ryan Clark for now.

Retweeted by John Keim
Ryan Clark ‏@Realrclark25 52m
Redskins fans only following me if I'm going to be a Redskin can unfollow me for now! Still treating me the way they always have. Never know
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Eff Ryan Clark

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1064056]No Ryan Clark for now.

Retweeted by John Keim
Ryan Clark ‏@Realrclark25 52m
Redskins fans only following me if I'm going to be a Redskin can unfollow me for now! Still treating me the way they always have. Never know
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Whining like a b*tch. How much does he really expect us to throw at him? It'll be a decent pickup but we should definitely not over pay for a 35 year old whose clearly lost a step.

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Hire him has a FS coach he would probably get more $$$.

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Did he really just say that? To be confident is one thing, to show disrespect for an organizations fans who might be one of the few teams in the league to value your skills is totally another. Ryan Clark must be a dumbass mother fucker. Let him peddle his ass outside the soup kitchen, slothy mother fucker.

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Browner was a no show today. He is going to sign with the Pats.

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Heard scout Chris Landry,who has been critical of the skins in the past in free agency, wholeheartedly praise the approach and went down every transaction giving it high praise. Said Roberts and hatcher were the right call and fit. Said he have to see the contract of hatcher but assumed with Bruce it would fine. Said Riley and orakpo were the right call. Not overpaying for free safety was the right call, said Chris Clemons should be someone we needed to look at. Even mentioned geathers, sharp ton and hey ward were all good role players made sense and good value. Porter he said would be a good value, thrives in the slot. He mentioned that both safetys needed to be upgraded for sure. He only concern was the guard was an over pay but likes the fit in the offense. Mentioned Steiger move to center is a stronger position for him.

I was surprised he was so positive, good stuff coming from Landry

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T Donald Penn visiting Saturday

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[quote=Irrefutable;1064087]T Donald Penn visiting Saturday[/quote]

Whats the possibility he cancels to.

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Browner just signed with the pats. 3 years 17 million.