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Fiversons 12-15-2014 09:05 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Lotus;1100059]lmfao[/quote]

Seems like only the Redskins can bring out the best in people... Merry Christmas...

Hog1 12-15-2014 09:06 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
I don't see why anyone would be offended being called a Mentally Handicapped......Troll?
thoughts.....

Lotus 12-15-2014 09:17 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Hog1;1100063]I don't see why anyone would be offended being called a Mentally Handicapped......Troll?
thoughts.....[/quote]

You and your whorish mother remind me of a stinking pile of pooh that has been puked on...no offense. :)

rocnrik 12-15-2014 09:37 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
Unless we could hire a can't miss head coach with a long track record of wins and would agree to tend to this mess of a team I can't see any other option but to bring gruden back..who would the next coach be??? another coordinator with no head coach exp.. or college coach with no NFL experience? these last two games will decide RGIII future if he plays okay and shows improvement at least we can build on that..and we could be showcasing him to another team..who knows ...

Rotten1980 12-15-2014 10:11 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=mbedner3420;1100041]Rotoworld is reporting that Gruden will be retained and back next year...[/quote]

Well then I sincerely hope he gets his poop in a group. He's still a likable guy but in a no nonsense neighborhood bartender way, who thinks he knows something about football.

VTSkins1961 12-16-2014 10:00 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
AS physically gifted he might be we have bigger needs. Furthermore most heisman winners end up being a bust.....



[quote=saden1;1100043]Nah, I'm still high from Mariota's Heisman victory and I am looking forward to an even bigger high when the Ducks win the national championship.

Despite your shortcomings you're looking [URL="http://www.newsbiscuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/800-donkey.jpg"]good[/URL].[/quote]

saden1 12-16-2014 11:08 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=VTSkins1961;1100131]AS physically gifted he might be we have bigger needs. Furthermore most heisman winners end up being a bust.....[/quote]

Mariota is better than Andrew Luck RIGHT NOW! Sounds absurd but give it a couple of years and you will see it for yourself.


...I just hope he doesn't end up with the Redskins.

saden1 12-16-2014 11:17 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Hog1;1100063]I don't see why anyone would be offended being called a Mentally Handicapped......Troll?
thoughts.....[/quote]

The only thing that offends me is the fact that it isn't funny. Maybe he could be funnier if his mouth wasn't so full.

irish 12-16-2014 11:23 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Bangee7;1097002]Breathe in....Breathe out....

I really think Gruden is part of the solution. I'm sure he's still learning the ropes of being the Head Coach.

It's obvious the o-line needs re-vamped and the secondary needs better players.

His failing is probably not being more vocal for o-line upgrades, but can anyone imagine how much his head was spinning during the off-season just trying to watch film, evaluate players he doesn't see every day, etc.?

He deserves at least another year in my opinion before we "blow it all up" AGAIN.[/quote]

I agree that Gruden is part of the solution. However, Allen isnt, he's a big part of the problem and need to go. This team needs a real GM not a director of pants and reunions.

Chico23231 12-16-2014 11:54 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=saden1;1100149]Mariota is better than Andrew Luck RIGHT NOW! Sounds absurd but give it a couple of years and you will see it for yourself.


...I just hope he doesn't end up with the Redskins.[/quote]

Are you officially following Mariota to his team when when he is draft, gonna make him your permanent, bottom dick?

Just imagine if he ends up with the Eagles, you gonna be air tight.

NC_Skins 12-16-2014 12:03 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=saden1;1100149]Mariota is better than Andrew Luck RIGHT NOW! Sounds absurd but give it a couple of years and you will see it for yourself.

.[/quote]



[IMG]http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/094/357/Yall-postin-in-a-troll-thread.jpg[/IMG]

Rotten1980 12-16-2014 12:03 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
Does anybody believe Rambo's comment that Redskins aren't required to watch film, wtf?

It is beyond the pale we cut a draft pick who's now playing solid football...for a well coached team. But that's not a surprise. If his statement is true though, I just don't know how anybody on the coaching staff this season can be retained.

saden1 12-16-2014 12:18 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1100156]Are you officially following Mariota to his team when when he is draft, gonna make him your permanent, bottom dick?

Just imagine if he ends up with the Eagles, you gonna be air tight.[/quote]

If you're having fun on Sundays why does it matter who's on your tv and the jersey you wear in the privacy of your own home?


Don't deny yourself life's little pleasures, it feels good to win!

saden1 12-16-2014 12:25 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Rotten1980;1100159]Does anybody believe Rambo's comment that Redskins aren't required to watch film, wtf?

It is beyond the pale we cut a draft pick who's now playing solid football...for a well coached team. But that's not a surprise. If his statement is true though, I just don't know how anybody on the coaching staff this season can be retained.[/quote]

He clearly never watched any film but if the product on the field is any indication it's hard not to believe him.

KI Skins Fan 12-16-2014 12:27 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Rotten1980;1100159]Does anybody believe Rambo's comment that Redskins aren't required to watch film, wtf?[/quote]

No, but I would believe that nobody is checking to see that they do. There is a management saying that goes: "Inspect, don't expect".

over the mountain 12-16-2014 12:32 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Rotten1980;1100159]Does anybody believe Rambo's comment that Redskins aren't required to watch film, wtf?

It is beyond the pale we cut a draft pick who's now playing solid football...for a well coached team. But that's not a surprise. If his statement is true though, I just don't know how anybody on the coaching staff this season can be retained.[/quote]

Cooley said he pulled into skins team facilities parking lot a few weeks ago and got the first spot right next to the door around 4 pm on a wednesday ... he also said he never really watched film when he went home to do so.

ryan clark took exception to that by not denying that players arent putting in the work but by saying cooley didnt stay late either. would have been great if clark addressed the issue (are skins players putting in the work?) instead of deflecting and addressing cooley's own past habits.

these guys are not putting in the work.

not even close.

they are not professionals.

they are like walmart employees .. doing the bare minimum required.

its on the coaches to prepare and set a professional atmosphere.

its on the players to be professionals, take pride in their work and follow the coaches lead.

Rotten1980 12-16-2014 12:34 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
^^ That's what I feared. Ugh.

Bucket 12-16-2014 12:37 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
It's about finding the right people. You shouldn't HAVE to force players to watch film in the NFL. They are in a business and if you can't perform in that business you get replaced.

over the mountain 12-16-2014 12:40 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
did anyone else see in last nights game at the half, camera shows all the players from both teams heading into the tunnel ... it then shows drew brees for a split second.

he is standing all alone on the sideline looking at film/screen grabs on his ipad.

they also showed a clip of him working on 3-5-7 step drops, talking about his work ethic and dedication.

sigh ...

SmootSmack 12-16-2014 12:42 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Rotten1980;1100159]Does anybody believe Rambo's comment that Redskins aren't required to watch film, wtf?

It is beyond the pale we cut a draft pick who's now playing solid football...for a well coached team. But that's not a surprise. If his statement is true though, I just don't know how anybody on the coaching staff this season can be retained.[/quote]

When did he say that?

Also, this sudden Bacarri Rambo love is hilarious. He repeatedly failed to perform here, wen through multiple workouts for other teams. Good for him for finding a job in Buffalo and for having a good game, but let's not send him to Canton yet

Rotten1980 12-16-2014 12:49 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
Yes, I think a 22 year old kid suddenly finding himself on a big stage with $ needs to be coached/mentored.

Also might be common fucking sense, for fuck sakes.

This coaching staff is absolute trash and it's obvious every gameday. These public comments by players, past and current, shouldn't surprise I guess.

FO is also trash.

What scares me is the talk we can just expect more of the same :(

over the mountain 12-16-2014 01:00 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1100186]When did he say that?

Also, this sudden Bacarri Rambo love is hilarious. He repeatedly failed to perform here, wen through multiple workouts for other teams. Good for him for finding a job in Buffalo and for having a good game, but let's not send him to Canton yet[/quote]

i think john wall re-tweeted it or something.

anything can happen, but rambo is a future CFLer.

[url=http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/bacarri-rambo-on-difference-between-bills-and-redskins-coaches-actually-require-you-to-watch-film-2155048/]Bacarri Rambo on difference between Bills & Redskins "coaches actually require you to watch film"[/url]

SmootSmack 12-16-2014 02:16 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=over the mountain;1100191]i think john wall re-tweeted it or something.

anything can happen, but rambo is a future CFLer.

[url=http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/bacarri-rambo-on-difference-between-bills-and-redskins-coaches-actually-require-you-to-watch-film-2155048/]Bacarri Rambo on difference between Bills & Redskins "coaches actually require you to watch film"[/url][/quote]

Yeah I still haven't seen any video of that

Chico23231 12-16-2014 02:33 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1100204]Yeah I still haven't seen any video of that[/quote]

Are you saying he didnt say that...or are you restating the problem at hand, skins not studying film?

SmootSmack 12-16-2014 02:39 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1100208]Are you saying he didnt say that...or are you restating the problem at hand, skins not studying film?[/quote]

I'm saying I just want to hear what he said exactly. I've only heard him say he studied some film

diehardskin2982 12-16-2014 03:14 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/16/jay-gruden-gives-lukewarm-assessment-of-desean-praises-maclin/]Jay Gruden gives lukewarm assessment of DeSean, praises Maclin | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Can this guy stop alienating players. Who wants to play for a guy who by nature will throw you to the wolves in the media. Snyder and Allen need to reel this noob in.

Rotten1980 12-16-2014 03:36 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1100221][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/16/jay-gruden-gives-lukewarm-assessment-of-desean-praises-maclin/]Jay Gruden gives lukewarm assessment of DeSean, praises Maclin | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Can this guy stop alienating players. Who wants to play for a guy who by nature will throw you to the wolves in the media. Snyder and Allen need to reel this noob in.[/quote]

I said it somewhere earlier, Gruden looks like he's doing everything possible to prove he doesn't want this job anymore, maybe that he's not pro HC material.

It's a head scratcher the FO comes out in support and promises another year, just terrible management.

DYoungJelly 12-16-2014 04:02 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=over the mountain;1100179]Cooley said he pulled into skins team facilities parking lot a few weeks ago and got the first spot right next to the door around 4 pm on a wednesday ... he also said he never really watched film when he went home to do so.

ryan clark took exception to that by not denying that players arent putting in the work but by saying cooley didnt stay late either. would have been great if clark addressed the issue (are skins players putting in the work?) instead of deflecting and addressing cooley's own past habits.

these guys are not putting in the work.

not even close.

they are not professionals.

they are like walmart employees .. doing the bare minimum required.

its on the coaches to prepare and set a professional atmosphere.

its on the players to be professionals, take pride in their work and follow the coaches lead.[/quote]

Heard it. Clark basically said there are lots of guys who don't sit through tons of film study who still take care of business on Sunday.

I like the guy but he should take his own advice. Not getting it done on Sunday.

Basically Cooley was talking about how he watched film of the Rams Oline and was able to pick up tendencies of how the lineman were set to predict run or pass.

He was wondering aloud how he (Cooley) could consistently predict pass by the soft set of one of the tackles but our secondary and inside linebackers were getting hooked on play action over and over.

The answer he proposed: FILM STUDY.

punch it in 12-16-2014 04:28 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[QUOTE=saden1;1100149]Mariota is better than Andrew Luck RIGHT NOW! Sounds absurd but give it a couple of years and you will see it for yourself.





...I just hope he doesn't end up with the Redskins.[/QUOTE]


The only thing my mouth is full with is laughter because of your mentally handicapped troll posts like this one.

Avinash_Tyagi 12-16-2014 06:14 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1100221][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/16/jay-gruden-gives-lukewarm-assessment-of-desean-praises-maclin/]Jay Gruden gives lukewarm assessment of DeSean, praises Maclin | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Can this guy stop alienating players. Who wants to play for a guy who by nature will throw you to the wolves in the media. Snyder and Allen need to reel this noob in.[/quote]

I'm reminded of the episode of Seinfeld where George tries to get fired from the Yankees

mredskins 12-16-2014 06:24 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=punch it in;1100236]The only thing my mouth is full with is laughter because of your mentally handicapped troll posts like this one.[/quote]

I don't understand why you acknowledge him. Try the ignore list works wonders.

punch it in 12-16-2014 06:42 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[QUOTE=mredskins;1100263]I don't understand why you acknowledge him. Try the ignore list works wonders.[/QUOTE]


No way. Reading his posts make me feel really good about what goes on inside of my own head. Lol. I wont respond anymore though. There are too many other things in life that are more enjoyable than talking to Saden .....like taking sandpaper to my nutsack while chewing on a big ole wad of tinfoil.

Hog1 12-16-2014 08:01 PM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1100186]When did he say that?

Also, this sudden Bacarri Rambo love is hilarious. He repeatedly failed to perform here, wen through multiple workouts for other teams. Good for him for finding a job in Buffalo and for having a good game, but let's not send him to Canton yet[/quote]

Is he not a second or third teamer there as well (HOF notwithstanding)?
.....that just had a good day
Third teamer prophet? ...awesome

REDSKINS4ever 12-17-2014 03:53 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Hog1;1100279]Is he not a second or third teamer there as well (HOF notwithstanding)?
.....that just had a good day
Third teamer prophet? ...awesome[/quote]

The defensive scheme and coverages must either be different and simplier in Buffalo than it was for him in Washington....or he's not being asked to do much and doesn't have as much responsibility in coverage like he did with the Redskins.....

Coff 12-17-2014 07:25 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1100221][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/16/jay-gruden-gives-lukewarm-assessment-of-desean-praises-maclin/"]Jay Gruden gives lukewarm assessment of DeSean, praises Maclin | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

Can this guy stop alienating players. Who wants to play for a guy who by nature will throw you to the wolves in the media. Snyder and Allen need to reel this noob in.[/quote]

It's a head scratcher. The guy has been arguably the team MVP this year; his production goes down because of an injury and he gets called out for what he hasn't done "lately"? Wow. Was Gruden raised in a closet? He seems to have a first grader's understanding of people skills.

KI Skins Fan 12-17-2014 08:21 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Coff;1100333]It's a head scratcher. The guy has been arguably the team MVP this year; his production goes down because of an injury and he gets called out for what he hasn't done "lately"? Wow. [B]Was Gruden raised in a closet? He seems to have a first grader's understanding of people skills.[/B][/quote]

I no longer listen to or read a word Jay Gruden says anymore, unless it's commented on here. It really is appalling to me the way he talks about players in public.

We've got one more season of this loser and then we can move on to the next loser Snyder hires.

donofriose 12-17-2014 09:44 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1100316]The defensive scheme and coverages must either be different and simplier in Buffalo than it was for him in Washington....or he's not being asked to do much and doesn't have as much responsibility in coverage like he did with the Redskins.....[/quote]

Or he is playing with one of the best defensive lines in the NFL.

NC_Skins 12-17-2014 10:27 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=Coff;1100333]It's a head scratcher. The guy has been arguably the team MVP this year; his production goes down because of an injury and he gets called out for what he hasn't done "lately"? Wow. Was Gruden raised in a closet? He seems to have a first grader's understanding of people skills.[/quote]

I think it's more that DJ has been mailing it in on his routes and the coaches know it. He's frustrated that the QBs can't get him the ball so he's half assing it. They talked about that on the radio Monday morning.

tommyhawk13 12-17-2014 10:41 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
anybody else tired of jay gruden and the bs he says?

Avinash_Tyagi 12-17-2014 11:30 AM

Re: The everything Gruden thread
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1100346]I think it's more that DJ has been mailing it in on his routes and the coaches know it. He's frustrated that the QBs can't get him the ball so he's half assing it. They talked about that on the radio Monday morning.[/quote]


Might be because he's not 100% yet, heck one throw to him by RG3 sailed over his head and you could tell he didn't have the gas in the tank, he needs a little more time to get healthy.

As for Gruden:

Gruden is the kind of guy who likes to pass the buck, nothing is ever his fault, it's always someone else who isn't performing.


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