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JoeRedskin 03-14-2015 12:22 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=Mattyk;1109379]Work ethic, or lack thereof.[/quote]

An assumption on your part or word of mouth?

If true, maybe correctable.

MTK 03-14-2015 12:28 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1109381]An assumption on your part or word of mouth?

If true, maybe correctable.[/quote]

Just little bits from here and there on the grapevine. Questioning his work ethic is a little unfair on my part, maybe it's more just to say his maturity still needs work.

Hopefully he's learned from stuff like this

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/11/28/david-amerson-explains-absence-that-got-him-benched-for-49ers-game/]David Amerson explains absence that got him benched for 49ers game - The Washington Post[/url]

And this goes back to his rookie year

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/52265/maturity-to-be-key-for-david-amerson]Maturity to be key for David Amerson - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

Meks 03-14-2015 12:30 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
Rumors we're going after Crabtree... Eh.. I'm not a huge fan of this, he can't come as cheap as we would want in sure... I dunno about this one..if the "rumor" is true ... I just don't think WR is that much of a need on this team... Its potential moves like this that could keep rising young players like Grant down on the depth chart

JoeRedskin 03-14-2015 12:35 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=Mattyk;1109384]Just little bits from here and there on the grapevine. Questioning his work ethic is a little unfair on my part, maybe it's more just to say his maturity still needs work. ... [/quote]

Right. I remember that now. Given the signing of Culver, the success of Breeland, and the rumor that the Skins are looking for another corner, it would appear that the current regime is not hopeful of a big change of attitude.

Meks 03-14-2015 12:39 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
I don't think anyone will be starting at corner over Hall if the team keeps him in that position, he posted that the DR said his Achilles is 100% healed and I expect him back to his usual performance, dudes a baller flat out

MTK 03-14-2015 12:40 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1109387]Right. I remember that now. Given the signing of Culver, the success of Breeland, and the rumor that the Skins are looking for another corner, it would appear that the current regime is not hopeful of a big change of attitude.[/quote]

Maybe, and plus you can never have enough quality corners these days. We definitely came up short in that dept last year.

skinsfan69 03-14-2015 12:57 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1109371]Sophomore jinx.[/quote]

Hopefully we see Amerson rebound. Such a talented corner with great size. Still a real young guy who's obviously got some maturity issues, like a lot of 22 year olds. Hopefully he grows the F up and has a comeback year. Too early to give up on.

skinsfan69 03-14-2015 01:01 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
They've yet to address the O-line. I'm assuming they'll do so in the draft which is fine. I get the feeling that perhaps they don't think it's as big a problem as the fans do.

MTK 03-14-2015 01:05 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1109393]They've yet to address the O-line. I'm assuming they'll do so in the draft which is fine. I get the feeling that perhaps they don't think it's as big a problem as the fans do.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure they see a lot of room for improvement there and they'll look to upgrade in the draft, and SM probably isn't crazy about spending big $$ there either.

OmahaRedskins 03-14-2015 01:53 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
This may be a little of topic, but is this year’s free agency class stronger than normal? I do not remember so many under 30 being available. I know we have plenty of holes to fill, but I was not expecting the Redskins to sign so many free agents.

budw38 03-14-2015 02:14 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1109392]Hopefully we see Amerson rebound. Such a talented corner with great size. Still a real young guy who's obviously got some maturity issues, like a lot of 22 year olds. Hopefully he grows the F up and has a comeback year. Too early to give up on.[/quote]

Agree with you . Not may young corers are going to look good without decent play at Safety , or a pass rush .

Chico23231 03-14-2015 02:49 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=OmahaRedskins;1109399]This may be a little of topic, but is this year’s free agency class stronger than normal? I do not remember so many under 30 being available. I know we have plenty of holes to fill, but I was not expecting the Redskins to sign so many free agents.[/quote]

Maybe the strongest ever IMO. Guys like revis, suh, Murray, Randall Cobb made it to the 3 day negotiating window and the trades...definitely the crazy free agency period I can remember.

That Guy 03-14-2015 04:42 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;1109370]I still don't understand how he dropped off so hard. Couple years ago he looked like he had some mad potential and then last year it was like he failed to show up at all.[/quote]

the first year is a grace period where no one has NFL tape on you. by your 2nd year, your tendencies show up and people start to game you / go after your weaknesses more. see RGIII, patrick ramsey, etc.

if you work hard and are somewhat intelligent, you can avoid the slump (see kerrigan, sean taylor).

That Guy 03-14-2015 04:47 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1109387]Right. I remember that now. Given the signing of Culver, the success of Breeland, and the rumor that the Skins are looking for another corner, it would appear that the current regime is not hopeful of a big change of attitude.[/quote]

hall is old and his injury is usually an 18 month deal before you're back to pre-injury form. most guys coming back from an acl have a pretty lackluster year. honestly the 2nd CB might be more about next year than this one, if they feel like they can get a good one reasonably.

Irrefutable 03-14-2015 04:48 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
Cox to TN

tc2deuce 03-14-2015 05:05 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
Tarrell Brown? or Shareece Wright?

SFREDSKIN 03-14-2015 05:06 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=tc2deuce;1109422]Tarrell Brown? or Shareece Wright?[/quote]

Brown. He has chemistry with Culliver having been team mates in SF.

FRPLG 03-14-2015 10:24 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
Chemistry? How exactly do CBs have chemistry? They don't typically perform their duties in tandem.

SFREDSKIN 03-14-2015 11:00 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=FRPLG;1109433]Chemistry? How exactly do CBs have chemistry? They don't typically perform their duties in tandem.[/quote]

How about anticipating what each other do.

Lotus 03-14-2015 11:44 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
Shareece Wright to 49ers.

DYoungJelly 03-14-2015 11:56 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=budw38;1109401]Agree with you . Not may young corers are going to look good without decent play at Safety , or a pass rush .[/quote]

Breeland looked like a baller, but I agree with you as a generalization.

DYoungJelly 03-15-2015 12:10 AM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;1109370]I still don't understand how he dropped off so hard. Couple years ago he looked like he had some mad potential and then last year it was like he failed to show up at all.[/quote]

Last year at the beginning of the season a lot of people on the radio were saying Amerson had Fred Davis type distractions.

Haven't heard any reference to Davis type issues and Amerson since though, even with the game he sat out.

He has a ton of talent but his head doesn't seem to be in the game.

budw38 03-15-2015 04:54 AM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
Maybe Amerson's problems were losing D Hall and having a revolving door at both S/SS spots ? We also had very little pass rush , that being said , maybe changes to the coaching staff and upgrades on the DLine will help Amerson improve .

NYCskinfan82 03-15-2015 06:15 AM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
We will find out about Amerson this year, after Deion Sanders called him out at the combine.

Schneed10 03-15-2015 09:05 AM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
I don't like Amerson's make-up. I don't think he has the burning desire to be a great football player like McC talks about.

diehardskin2982 03-15-2015 10:20 AM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
With so much added emphasis on the run in the NFC East I think we should sign Brandon Spikes or take Rolando McClain from Dallas. Both are better than Perry Riley. Also I would sign Greg Hardy to a one year "prove it" deal. We now have enough depth to handle what ever suspension he may get.

JoeRedskin 03-15-2015 11:29 AM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
Riley is fine against the run.

A TE running a seam route however ...

DynamiteRave 03-15-2015 11:59 AM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1109456]Riley is fine against the run.

A TE running a seam route however ...[/quote]

We went from one ILB that couldn't cover to another ILB who can't cover.

I'd much rather have a ILB who is so/so at run coverage and better at pass coverage than one who balls out at run coverage and is the invisible man when the ball's in the air.

Chico23231 03-15-2015 12:05 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1109456]Riley is fine against the run.

A TE running a seam route however ...[/quote]

What is jermaine Gresham up too? TE has been an overlooked need for too long.

skinsfan69 03-15-2015 12:11 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1109462]What is jermaine Gresham up too? TE has been an overlooked need for too long.[/quote]

He'd be a nice pick up for us with Reed being so fragile. We need a traditional TE that has better skills than Paulsen.

Chico23231 03-15-2015 12:14 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1109463]He'd be a nice pick up for us with Reed being so fragile. We need a traditional TE that has better skills than Paulsen.[/quote]

Agree,We need a better blocking TE, Paulson sucked being that guy last year.

SFREDSKIN 03-15-2015 12:28 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
How about Housler, Fasano? Are they good blocking TE's?

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-15-2015 01:09 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
Fasano signed a two year deal somewhere

budw38 03-15-2015 01:24 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
Interesting article on Taylor Mays ( USC / Bengal ) [url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2015/3/13/8207461/taylor-mays-is-a-beast-folks]Taylor Mays is a beast, Folks - Hogs Haven[/url] . Not that he would solve or problems , but might be a nice addition if the money is right .

Irrefutable 03-15-2015 01:46 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=budw38;1109469]Interesting article on Taylor Mays ( USC / Bengal ) [url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2015/3/13/8207461/taylor-mays-is-a-beast-folks]Taylor Mays is a beast, Folks - Hogs Haven[/url] . Not that he would solve or problems , but might be a nice addition if the money is right .[/quote]

stats do not lie, Mays had 7 tackles, and 2 assists in 16 games

diehardskin2982 03-15-2015 02:09 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
Why are we trying to sign so many strong safeties when we need a FS?

Check out this article about McClain. I would love for us to steal him from the Cowboys. He was the heart of that no name defense they had.

[url=http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2014/07/02/scouting-report-new-lb-mcclain-plays-power]Scouting Report: New LB McClain Plays With Power | Dallas Cowboys[/url]

budw38 03-15-2015 02:54 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1109470]stats do not lie, Mays had 7 tackles, and 2 assists in 16 games[/quote]

That might be why he is not signed , maybe a relative of his wrote the article :) .

KI Skins Fan 03-15-2015 04:05 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1109453]With so much added emphasis on the run in the NFC East I think we should sign Brandon Spikes or take Rolando McClain from Dallas. Both are better than Perry Riley. Also I would sign Greg Hardy to a one year "prove it" deal. We now have enough depth to handle what ever suspension he may get.[/quote]

Wasn't signing Culliver risky enough for you?

SirLK26 03-15-2015 04:36 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=budw38;1109473]That might be why he is not signed , maybe a relative of his wrote the article :) .[/quote]

Yeah, apparently his mom has some writing skills.

diehardskin2982 03-15-2015 08:05 PM

Re: Who should we go for in Free Agency?
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1109478]Wasn't signing Culliver risky enough for you?[/quote]

Nope, lol... I hold results on the NFL field in high regard and I see these players as a fit (on a one year deal). At some point you have to forgive them for mistakes. I feel that we need to fill as many holes on the team as possible in free agency so that the players that we draft can have the opportunity to develop into starting roles. That is why I love the pot-roast deal. If he proves to be his worth we give him a long term deal next year, If we draft a guy like Shelton the pressure will not be on him to be the savior.


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