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[quote=skinsfan69;1122916]Some of you guys need to fucking relax. As I said, chances are we were not going on the road on a short week to beat the Giants. They are BETTER.

As far as KC is concerned, he's going to have games like this. He's finding his way as a starter and may or may not be the future. I was bothered more by his 2nd pick than the first one.

Eli is better, he's had so many terrible games over the years but he's still a two time SB MVP. But he is clearly better than KC and showed that tonight. But he also has like way more experience too.

Blocked punt was horseshit. Plummer getting his manhood taken by a rb is inexcusable. He should have been cut after the pentalty and given a bus ticket home.

The offense is clearly missing Jackson. [B]Did Grant even catch a pass[/B]?[/quote]

Grant only had 2, but Crowder had 6 catches for 45, and Ross had 2 for 27. I think those two were bright spots in this game.

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1122915]We had opportunities to win this game. Kirk just didn't make the throws. Jordan Reed could have had 3 touchdowns tonight if Kirk would pass the ball better. The defense did their job. Special teams still not where they need to be. I do believe this team has improved. We just have to execute a lot better.[/quote]

I totally agree!!! Young wr's making plays!!

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[quote=Michaelt31;1122913]Teams focus on what players can't do!! I just like to see 3 tds, 0 ints, and 100 passer rating against a first defense. I'm not against him, just don't see the same talk about this throw, and that throw. He had a chance to beat these guys to death. He guys open all night, even the ones he hit he was off sometimes. P.S. He been playing in this type of offense for years, and only got a little better.[/quote]I couldn't agree more. Kirk had guys open. He missed Reed on three tds. One play Reed was wide open running down the middle of the field. He threw a bad pass to Reed that should have been a td. There was another play he underthrew Reed. Not to mention all of.the wide open guys he didn't see. Kirk was bad tonight. To be honest he hasn't been impressive all season.

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Just beat the damn Eagles. If they do, no one will remember this game.

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I'm already over this game, just gotta avoid espn and halftime shows this weekend. Here's to Eagles losing on Sunday and staying in the cellar by themselves.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1122921]Just beat the damn Eagles. If they do, no one will remember this game.[/QUOTE]


A must win.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1122916]Some of you guys need to fucking relax. As I said, chances are we were not going on the road on a short week to beat the Giants. They are BETTER.

As far as KC is concerned, he's going to have games like this. He's finding his way as a starter and may or may not be the future. I was bothered more by his 2nd pick than the first one.

Eli is better, he's had so many terrible games over the years but he's still a two time SB MVP. But he is clearly better than KC and showed that tonight. But he also has like way more experience too.

Blocked punt was horseshit. Plummer getting his manhood taken by a rb is inexcusable. He should have been cut after the pentalty and given a bus ticket home.

The offense is clearly missing Jackson. Did Grant even catch a pass?[/quote]We are relaxed. We're just giving our observation of the game. Kirk has not been impressive at all. He missed guys. He made bad throws. Our wrs did their job tonight. Kirk failed this team tonight and I don't see him getting any better. If he played average we win.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1122921]Just beat the damn Eagles. If they do, no one will remember this game.[/quote]

I think we are going to struggle against the Eagles.

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1122926]I think we are going to struggle against the Eagles.[/quote]

We're not good enough to take anyone lightly. No game is a gimme. Hoping for the win not expecting/guaranteeing it.

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1122924]We are relaxed. We're just giving our observation of the game. Kirk has not been impressive at all. He missed guys. He made bad throws. Our wrs did their job tonight. Kirk failed this team tonight and I don't see him getting any better. If he played average we win.[/quote]

Also he not taking the blame for the lose, he not admitting the poor throws!! If anything we should see if the Jets want Kirk, and if the Eagles want Griff. Start stock piling picks for these backups qbs. Then get rid of these JV coaches!!

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I don't mind a loss like the one against the Dolphins, where the team played well, fought hard, and well they loss. This is just outright embarrassing.

The NFL has been up and down this season (one week the Bucs make Mariotta look like the second coming of Joe Montana; the next week the Bucs dominate Drew Brees and the Saints, while Tennessee shits the bed agains the Browns). So I am hoping that this was a one week "down" for us.

Still, this loss screams to me that the team wasn't ready and I pin a lot of that on the coach. I just hope they get their shit together to play the Eagles.

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0 sacks. 0 turnovers. Against a team that gives up both. Ugh. I know offensive struggles put the D in a bad position, but after our run game kept them off the field the last 2 weeks, it would have been nice for the D to make some plays. Could not see the game here - saw highlights and read analysis. Seems like we can't help but piss ourselves against this team. Ugh again.


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Hate to say it...but this was not surprising at all. Giants have had our number since 2012.
We forget that we were a 4-12 team last year. This is the game that reminds us we are building.
Giants game planned for us by stopping the run. Cousins played like shit, but peppered a few good throws throughout. Penalties killed us
Totally undisciplined team with mediocrity throughought. Welcome to the real world, kids.

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How was the play calling?


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It is always like this in the 1st quarter of the season. Bad teams look good and good teams look bad. Then eventually it all settles and the cream rises. Unfortunately we sink.

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Stayed up and watched until the second fourth quarter fumble, the one by Garcon, near mid field. In typical fashion I get Thursday Night football (TNF) sleep deprivation and the anger of yet another TNF loss, really cannot stand the Giants they seem to do this every year. The game was very upseting as a fan have that same ole Skins feeling, the big negatives: no pass rush and no turnovers by the D, yet again. The turnovers and the penalties did the offense in, Gruden's teams seem to severely lack discipline....time to go to work......at least it is Friday.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1122930]I don't mind a loss like the one against the Dolphins, where the team played well, fought hard, and well they loss. This is just outright embarrassing.

The NFL has been up and down this season (one week the Bucs make Mariotta look like the second coming of Joe Montana; the next week the Bucs dominate Drew Brees and the Saints, while Tennessee shits the bed agains the Browns). So I am hoping that this was a one week "down" for us.

Still, this loss screams to me that the team wasn't ready and I pin a lot of that on the coach. I just hope they get their shit together to play the Eagles.[/quote]

They were ready to play. It's easy for all us arm chair QB to blame Gruden. Giants were desperate and they are a better team right now. Eli was the difference. He clearly outplayed KC and that was really the game. Eli had no turnovers and KC had two. There's your game. I didn't see any guys quitting or loafing.

The rookie that got the punt blocked maybe wasn't ready to play. Other than that I saw effort out there.

Also it's too hard for a average to below average team to go on the road and win a Thursday game. Did you really think deep down we were going to win this game? Especially without Jackson?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1122941]They were ready to play. It's easy for all us arm chair QB to blame Gruden. Giants were desperate and they are a better team right now. Eli was the difference. He clearly outplayed KC and that was really the game. Eli had no turnovers and KC had two. There's your game. I didn't see any guys quitting or loafing.



The rookie that got the punt blocked maybe wasn't ready to play. Other than that I saw effort out there.



Also it's too hard for a average to below average team to go on the road and win a Thursday game. Did you really think deep down we were going to win this game? Especially without Jackson?[/QUOTE]


Thank you! The notion that we were outcoached and ill prepared or quit is bullshit. Gruden called pass plays against the leagues worst pass D and the throws were there all night! We need better qb play and an edge rusher desperately. Our D did not play a bad game. We put them in good field position. Were about a draft/offseason away from the next level of good, but we can absolutely win our division this year. Cousins is still very young as far as being a starter goes. You could make the case this is game three. There is certainly cause for alarm as far as his decisions and I do not think he will be our guy for too long into the future but I have not given up completely on him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1122930]I don't mind a loss like the one against the Dolphins, where the team played well, fought hard, and well they loss. This is just outright embarrassing.

The NFL has been up and down this season (one week the Bucs make Mariotta look like the second coming of Joe Montana; the next week the Bucs dominate Drew Brees and the Saints, while Tennessee shits the bed agains the Browns). So I am hoping that this was a one week "down" for us.

Still, this loss screams to me that the team wasn't ready and I pin a lot of that on the coach. I just hope they get their shit together to play the Eagles.[/quote]

Agree...dolphin loss wasn't bad, this was an embarrassment. Gruden looked weak, cousins was god awful

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[quote=skinsfan69;1122941]They were ready to play. It's easy for all us arm chair QB to blame Gruden. Giants were desperate and they are a better team right now. Eli was the difference. He clearly outplayed KC and that was really the game. Eli had no turnovers and KC had two. There's your game. I didn't see any guys quitting or loafing.

The rookie that got the punt blocked maybe wasn't ready to play. Other than that I saw effort out there.

Also it's too hard for a average to below average team to go on the road and win a Thursday game. [B]Did you really think deep down we were going to win this game? Especially without Jackson?[/B][/quote]

I wasn't expecting a win; I was actually expecting something similar to the
Dolphins game: good defense, good running game, mediocre passing game; offense not scoring enough points to overcome a late comeback by the opponents.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1122993]I wasn't expecting a win; I was actually expecting something similar to the
Dolphins game: good defense, good running game, mediocre passing game; offense not scoring enough points to overcome a late comeback by the opponents.[/quote]

As I said, we're not good enough right now to play that type of game every week. Especially on a short week. We're going to be up and down all year long.

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[quote=calia;1122934]How was the play calling?


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The play calling was fine. The Giants took away the run by stacking the box. Gruden called plays that got WR open. Cousins failed to execute all night. Even his completions were thrown behind his target and the guys had to adjust.

The Oline did a nice job of providing a pocket.

The Dline and OLBs failed to generate a pass rush. Preston Smith should have played more as well. He was able to get things done that Murphy could not.

We have a good chance against the Eagles to get to 500. Hopefully Djax is back. Though with the arm strength we saw last night I dont know how we will use him properly.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1122999]As I said, we're not good enough right now to play that type of game every week. Especially on a short week. We're going to be up and down all year long.[/quote]

Well injuries also killed us...but I also felt that Gruden went away from what works very quickly. I mean we weren't supposed to be able to run on the Rams, who have a far superior defense and we did.

I just hope they learn from this and have a better game against the Eagles.

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I would definitely like to see more of Crowder and Ross......

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[quote=Michaelt31;1122929]Also he not taking the blame for the lose, he not admitting the poor throws!! If anything we should see if the Jets want Kirk, and if the Eagles want Griff. Start stock piling picks for these backups qbs. Then get rid of these JV coaches!![/quote]

Exactly. The man took no accountability for his piss poor play. I'm done with Robert and Kirk. Neither one of these guys will be anything more than mediocre qbs. Gruden is just head coach material. I'm with you on this bro.

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[quote=Hog1;1123132]I would definitely like to see more of Crowder and Ross......[/quote]

I'm telling you, bench Roberts. That dude is a bum.