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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1195573]I love because Kim Un Fat didn’t pack the nukes in his luggage this is somehow a failure...[/QUOTE]



I love how because a lying murderous dictator made a promise that this is somehow a success....

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1195594]I love how because a lying murderous dictator made a promise that this is somehow a success....[/QUOTE]


Listen man, there’s nothing to worry about, Pres Cheeto tweeted that this nuclear thing is over, go home, nothing to see here

[emoji849]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1195595]Listen man, there’s nothing to worry about, Pres Cheeto tweeted that this nuclear thing is over, go home, nothing to see here

[emoji849][/QUOTE]



Oh shit. Well don’t i feel like an idiot. I didn’t know he had tweeted it. Im gonna book my flight to NK now. Maybe buy one of those condos and visit the new amusement park. Thanks Matty.

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[url]https://www.ajc.com/news/national/former-nba-star-dennis-rodman-cries-interview-about-north-korea-summit/9sGjXwZet2O9nO95C4SUnI/[/url]

Former NBA star Dennis Rodman cries in interview about North Korea summit

This is the reaction I expect from everyone here...tears of joy.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1195597][url]https://www.ajc.com/news/national/former-nba-star-dennis-rodman-cries-interview-about-north-korea-summit/9sGjXwZet2O9nO95C4SUnI/[/url]



Former NBA star Dennis Rodman cries in interview about North Korea summit



This is the reaction I expect from everyone here...tears of joy.[/QUOTE]


Ill just leave this right here. I cannot even begin to try n make sense of any of these misfits.

[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180614/8d3a0f1b22012aa822d457adf000aba2.jpg[/IMG]

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These two clowns with a soft spot in their hearts for KJU should be flogged ruthlessly by all the innocent people’s family members he has put to death. This is akin to warming up to Adolf Hitler when he was sticking innocents in concentration camps. Disgusting. Disgraceful. Sub human. Dennis Rodman should have disappeared after his playing days were over. I used to like the guy. He is now the poster child for your brain on drugs.

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When Dennis Rodman is on your side you might want to question what the fuck you’re doing wrong with your life

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No one seems to be happy with a diplomatic approach...but yet I always hear this should be the path...interesting.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1195601]No one seems to be happy with a diplomatic approach...but yet I always hear this should be the path...interesting.[/QUOTE]



There is a diplomatic approach which is what obama wanted to do - but got squashed by the gop and ridiculed by fox, than there is saluting a foreign enemy while u give away the farm like a giant pussy and get hollow promises from a mad man in return. Just stop.

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You All like to call obama soft, but Trump just sucked off an absolute murderous dictator for the world to see and signed a deal with him that makes the iran deal look tough as nails.
Couldn’t even tell Trudeau and Canada to their face. Had to do it from 40 thousand feet on Twitter. What a fuckin pussy.

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[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180614/e5afa36bc2ba185a5fe7fc748b818526.jpg[/IMG]
PUSSY

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[quote=punch it in;1195602]There is a diplomatic approach which is what obama wanted to do - but got squashed by the gop and ridiculed by fox, than there is saluting a foreign enemy while u give away the farm like a giant pussy and get hollow promises from a mad man in return. Just stop.[/quote]

bull fucking shit. Clapper told Obama to his face that there approach North Korea was a failing one.

GO BACK AND READ THE CLAPPER INTERVIEW NOW.

Don't be an OBAMA apologist for his proven failed foreign policies within his administration. Don't rewrite the facts.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1195605]bull fucking shit. Clapper told Obama to his face that there approach North Korea was a failing one.



GO BACK AND READ THE CLAPPER INTERVIEW NOW.



Don't be an OBAMA apologist for his proven failed foreign policies within his administration. Don't rewrite the facts.[/QUOTE]



So the GOP and Fox did not squash and ridicule Obama for wanting to take a diplomatic approach with NK? Go ahead and say no. Please.

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[quote=punch it in;1195606]So the GOP and Fox did not squash and ridicule Obama for wanting to take a diplomatic approach with NK? Go ahead and say no. Please.[/quote]

Go back and read the Clapper interview...Obama policy or approach...spin it how you want too was a failure. Clapper told Obama it is a failing policy.

Trump's approach has opened a path to denuclearized the Korean Peninsula.

I know your mad he's getting it done.

Quit trying to apologize for the failures of Obamas foreign policies or re writing history. President Trump does not need congressional approval to speak and negotiate with North Korea, nor did Failbama.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1195607]Go back and read the Clapper interview...Obama policy or approach...spin it how you want too was a failure. Clapper told Obama it is a failing policy.



Trump's approach has opened a path to denuclearized the Korean Peninsula.



I know your mad he's getting it done.



Quit trying to apologize for the failures of Obamas foreign policies or re writing history. President Trump does not need congressional approval to speak and negotiate with North Korea, nor did Failbama.[/QUOTE]



Getting what done? Removing our troops from the peninsula with absolutely no plan to ever verify KJU is destroying anything? Lmao. Great. Oh and as for James Clapper - read what he has to say about anything Trump. LMAO. But no worries Dennis Rodman has your back. Trumpers crack me up man. Thanks for the laughs today.

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it's frustrating that there really is no way to have a discussion that ends with both sides coming to the same understanding.

I think we have come closest when we effectively put off the discussion by saying the proof will be in the outcomes.

I mean, that is the truth, but still I consider myself an intelligent person, willing to listen, and think critically, AND, I know that the same is true of most posters with views I disagree with.

I don't think every point of detail has to be agreed on, but it sure seems like there should be more common ground then "time will prove you(or me) wrong"

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[quote=Chico23231;1195597][url]https://www.ajc.com/news/national/former-nba-star-dennis-rodman-cries-interview-about-north-korea-summit/9sGjXwZet2O9nO95C4SUnI/[/url]

Former NBA star Dennis Rodman cries in interview about North Korea summit

This is the reaction I expect from everyone here...tears of joy.[/quote]

Chico , straight up question, yes or no. Did kim murder his uncle?

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Looks like the engine test facility was a major one. Again, it's a step, but just as important is how all the verifications take place.

[url=http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2018/06/14/2018061401619.html]N.Korea to Destroy Tongchang-ri Missile Test Site - The Chosun Ilbo (English Edition): Daily News from Korea - North Korea[/url]

[QUOTE]{quote is from a different article by Business Insider}North Korea will destroy a large-scale facility in Tongchang-ri, North Pyongan Province that was used to test engines for the intercontinental-range ballistic missile, the Hwasong-14, according to South Korea's Chosun Ilbo.

The Hwasong-14 was the first North Korean missile experts said could hit the US mainland with a nuclear payload.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=Giantone;1195612]Chico , straight up question, yes or no. Did kim murder his uncle?[/quote]

He's a psychopath who murdered probably 100k + of his own country men.

Do you want him with 30-50 nuclear weapons on delivery systems that can reach the U.S. as well as other allies across the world?

So which is it, military force in reducing the threat or a diplomatic path?

Or you want the Obama way of doing nothing...the wait and see approach?

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[quote=Giantone;1195612]Chico , straight up question, yes or no. Did kim murder his uncle?[/quote]
I will answer for him.

Yes

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G1, straight up question yes or no.

Did Stalin kill millions of Russians?

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I’m sure it’s nothing

[url]https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/nyregion/trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.html[/url]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1195617]I’m sure it’s nothing

[url]https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/nyregion/trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.html[/url][/QUOTE]



Obama or any other POTUS ever would have been impeached 40 nothings ago. The mid terms cannot come fast enough, and once they do Trump cant go fast enough. God let this shit stain on the presidential timeline be gone.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1195616]G1, straight up question yes or no.



Did Stalin kill millions of Russians?[/QUOTE]



Ill do you the same courtesy and answer for him, yes. Why did Obama call him a smart cookie or salute him? Seriously before you tell me why this is relevant remember nobody is mocking Trump or the drugged up and overly emotional ex basketball player for diplomacy, just for their choice of words and peculiar praise of the man.

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[quote=punch it in;1195619]Ill do you the same courtesy and answer for him, yes. Why did Obama call him a smart cookie or salute him? Seriously before you tell me why this is relevant remember nobody is mocking Trump or the drugged up and overly emotional ex basketball player for diplomacy, just for their choice of words and peculiar praise of the man.[/quote]

see i gave a simple yes or no to G1's question. it couldn't be done by chico, you. Just a question, probably loaded, maybe had points to follow, but you had to buttress the answer. why?

My point, i guess, is that we don't dialogue, we pitter patter with the bs.

Nothing against you. It's communications today.

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[quote=MTK;1195617]I’m sure it’s nothing

[url]https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/nyregion/trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.html[/url][/quote]

Looks terrible, and again, if investigations reveal wrongdoings lock him up, like others should have been.

The timing of the announcement seems rather coincidental.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1195620]see i gave a simple yes or no to G1's question. it couldn't be done by chico, you. Just a question, probably loaded, maybe had points to follow, but you had to buttress the answer. why?



My point, i guess, is that we don't dialogue, we pitter patter with the bs.



Nothing against you. It's communications today.[/QUOTE]


Well not for nothing, but the conversation was clearly about KJU, and Trump and Rodman kissing his ass. G-ones question was pretty self explanatory. You asking if Stalin was also a murderous dictator was a weird response. That is why. And im still curious as to what Stalin also being a piece of shit has to do with anything. I wasn’t being as much of a wiseass as you think. I thought for sure you were going to say “well back in the day this guy saluted him “ or some two wrongs make a right something.

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[quote=punch it in;1195622]Well not for nothing, but the conversation was clearly about KJU, and Trump and Rodman kissing his ass. G-ones question was pretty self explanatory. You asking if Stalin was also a murderous dictator was a weird response. That is why. And im still curious as to what Stalin also being a piece of shit has to do with anything. I wasn’t being as much of a wiseass as you think. I thought for sure you were going to say “well back in the day this guy saluted him “ or some two wrongs make a right something.[/quote]


Mostly going to a realpolitik outlook, Stalin was a murderous dictator who we did in fact take on as an ally, against another murderous lunatic.

The real world doesn't really let us get to always go with the "right" answer and if playing to rocketman's ego gets us moving toward a place where they are working with us, and we can gain influence then c'est la guerre.

I think salute was a mistake, like obama's bow, and liberals ought to make just as much of an bruhaha over it as the conservatives made when Obama bowed.

But mostly, I really am just tired of the crazy hatred/ insane defending of all the political asses out there. HRC Trump Pelosi Ryan they all sit up with millions of dollars doing their damndest to screw one side or the other, while people making barely enough get screwed by which ever side can do it the easiest.

blah maybe need to take a break from this place for a while.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1195621]Looks terrible, and again, if investigations reveal wrongdoings lock him up, like others should have been.

The timing of the announcement seems rather coincidental.[/quote]

I can't believe you said that. Using a charity for greed seems so mild compared to all the other things he/fam have done. It's right there with visiting his own golf courses so the gov't has to pay his family for the security detail, or having businesses pay Cohen to get through to Trump so they can understand how to work together for mutual benefit.

Nothing about the timing seems coincidental to me, I'm sure the AG wanted to piss in Trump's cornflakes and decided the best time to do it was when his fans were slobbering on his knob even harder than normal about bringing peace to Korea.

Side note, if NK gives up their nukes but continues being one of the notoriously best state-backed hacking programs in the world, is that a win? Or if their main sources of income besides hacking is selling major narcotics (aka not weed)?

Also I'll freely admit I'm biased, but when I watched that video of Fox News going hardcore on Obama for even considering the idea of talking to KJU, it's disheartening to see yet another thing where Obama could do the same shit as Trump yet get taken to task for it.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1195624]I can't believe you said that. Using a charity for greed seems so mild compared to all the other things he/fam have done. It's right there with visiting his own golf courses so the gov't has to pay his family for the security detail, or having businesses pay Cohen to get through to Trump so they can understand how to work together for mutual benefit.

Nothing about the timing seems coincidental to me, I'm sure the AG wanted to piss in Trump's cornflakes and decided the best time to do it was when his fans were slobbering on his knob even harder than normal about bringing peace to Korea.

Side note, if NK gives up their nukes but continues being one of the notoriously best state-backed hacking programs in the world, is that a win? Or if their main sources of income besides hacking is selling major narcotics (aka not weed)?

Also I'll freely admit I'm biased, but when I watched that video of Fox News going hardcore on Obama for even considering the idea of talking to KJU, it's disheartening to see yet another thing where Obama could do the same shit as Trump yet get taken to task for it.[/QUOTE]Okay

Edit. Honestly, I didn't even read it and I don't know. I knew whatever I said would get a blither blather response. Hell I basically said that Trump should be indicted, agreed with what people who are anti Trump would say and still somebody who hates Trump lashed out with blather blather blather. Like I said I think I just need to take a break because this isnt dialogue or debate, in that there's very little chance that anyone writing anything in this forum to the people who are reading it are ever going to change opinions. Its just internet bickering.

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PAGE: "[Trump's] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!"
STRZOK: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it."

How would the left respond if that name was obama instead of trump. A top FBI official.

Bad day for FBI...looks like Trump used perfect judgement in his firing of Comey.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1195616]G1, straight up question yes or no.

Did Stalin kill millions of Russians?[/quote]

..............is trump dealing with Stalin?

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[quote=Chico23231;1195626]PAGE: "[Trump's] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!"
STRZOK: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it."

How would the left respond if that name was obama instead of trump. A top FBI official.

Bad day for FBI...looks like Trump used perfect judgement in his firing of Comey.[/quote]

LOL, someone might get whiplash the way you switch subjects.

So you agree the FBI hurt Hillary and help trump,kinda like russia.

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[quote=MTK;1195617]I’m sure it’s nothing

[url]https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/nyregion/trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.html[/url][/quote]

Opps!

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Chico since you bitch about the press he is what Sheperd Smith has to say about Trump and kim..........


[url=http://theweek.com/speedreads/778990/trump-slammed-nbc-cnn-downplaying-north-korea-deal-fox-news-shep-smith-left-deepest-cut]Trump slammed NBC and CNN for downplaying his North Korea deal. Fox News' Shep Smith left the deepest cut.[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1195626]PAGE: "[Trump's] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!"
STRZOK: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it."

How would the left respond if that name was obama instead of trump. A top FBI official.

Bad day for FBI...looks like Trump used perfect judgement in his firing of Comey.[/quote]

Maybe my bias is leaking, but I don't juxtapose the opinions of two FBI agents to mean everybody who worked on that investigation felt the same way. Do you literally think anybody who works in federal law enforcement doesn't have an opinion about the president? Am I naive enough to think there weren't federal agents who hated working under Obama? It is literally impossible to work for the federal gov't in any capacity without having an opinion on politics.

Cred, I agree. We are just talking here, and nothing is going to change. It's why I've been staying silent more recently. I give credit to Trump for "bringing peace" to Korea, but talk is cheap and given the credibility of those involved I'd hope you would understand why waiting for actual results would be better. But that seems like a moot point to Chico, who seems determined to berate us for not acknowledging Trump's greatness at international diplomacy. Idk, maybe our future involves us being BFF's with Russia and NK, while Canada, Mexico, England, France, and Germany all give us the finger.

I really hope it's worth it to ya'll and the rest of his supporters, because I firmly believe if Trump came out and said all Muslims and Latinos need to be deported and segregated in internment camps regardless of their legal right to be here, his supporters (not necessarily you/Chico) aka the "suppressed" straight white men would firmly back it. And that's the real problem. We're rapidly devolving into libs/socialists against white men who feel marginalized by Obama and would follow Trump into hell and back. Meanwhile Trump loves it, because if there's one thing he loves more than money, it's the sound of his own name.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1195631]Maybe my bias is leaking, but I don't juxtapose the opinions of two FBI agents to mean everybody who worked on that investigation felt the same way. Do you literally think anybody who works in federal law enforcement doesn't have an opinion about the president? Am I naive enough to think there weren't federal agents who hated working under Obama? It is literally impossible to work for the federal gov't in any capacity without having an opinion on politics.

Cred, I agree. We are just talking here, and nothing is going to change. It's why I've been staying silent more recently. I give credit to Trump for "bringing peace" to Korea, but talk is cheap and given the credibility of those involved I'd hope you would understand why waiting for actual results would be better. But that seems like a moot point to Chico, who seems determined to berate us for not acknowledging Trump's greatness at international diplomacy. Idk, maybe our future involves us being BFF's with Russia and NK, while Canada, Mexico, England, France, and Germany all give us the finger.

I really hope it's worth it to ya'll and the rest of his supporters, because I firmly believe if Trump came out and said all Muslims and Latinos need to be deported and segregated in internment camps regardless of their legal right to be here, his supporters (not necessarily you/Chico) aka the "suppressed" straight white men would firmly back it. And that's the real problem. We're rapidly devolving into libs/socialists against white men who feel marginalized by Obama and would follow Trump into hell and back. Meanwhile Trump loves it, because if there's one thing he loves more than money, it's the sound of his own name.[/QUOTE]When a leading investigator says "we will stop [a candidate from becoming president]" and that person becomes a point man on an investigation of said candidate. That should be a problem for all citizens.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1195623]Mostly going to a realpolitik outlook, Stalin was a murderous dictator who we did in fact take on as an ally, against another murderous lunatic.



The real world doesn't really let us get to always go with the "right" answer and if playing to rocketman's ego gets us moving toward a place where they are working with us, and we can gain influence then c'est la guerre.



I think salute was a mistake, like obama's bow, and liberals ought to make just as much of an bruhaha over it as the conservatives made when Obama bowed.



But mostly, I really am just tired of the crazy hatred/ insane defending of all the political asses out there. HRC Trump Pelosi Ryan they all sit up with millions of dollars doing their damndest to screw one side or the other, while people making barely enough get screwed by which ever side can do it the easiest.



blah maybe need to take a break from this place for a while.[/QUOTE]



Ill drink to this.....

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[quote=mooby;1195631]Maybe my bias is leaking, but I don't juxtapose the opinions of two FBI agents to mean everybody who worked on that investigation felt the same way. Do you literally think anybody who works in federal law enforcement doesn't have an opinion about the president? Am I naive enough to think there weren't federal agents who hated working under Obama? It is literally impossible to work for the federal gov't in any capacity without having an opinion on politics.

Cred, I agree. We are just talking here, and nothing is going to change. It's why I've been staying silent more recently. I give credit to Trump for "bringing peace" to Korea, but talk is cheap and given the credibility of those involved I'd hope you would understand why waiting for actual results would be better. But that seems like a moot point to Chico, who seems determined to berate us for not acknowledging Trump's greatness at international diplomacy. Idk, maybe our future involves us being BFF's with Russia and NK, while Canada, Mexico, England, France, and Germany all give us the finger.

I [B]really hope it's worth it to ya'll and the rest of his supporters, because I firmly believe if Trump came out and said all Muslims and Latinos need to be deported and segregated in internment camps regardless of their legal right to be here, his supporters (not necessarily you/Chico) aka the "suppressed" straight white men would firmly back it. And that's the real problem. We're rapidly devolving into libs/socialists against white men who feel marginalized by Obama and would follow Trump into hell and back.[/B] Meanwhile Trump loves it, because if there's one thing he loves more than money, it's the sound of his own name.[/quote]


You really go off the deep end here...I guess you were getting triggered and then you had to go racial which confirmed it.

Trump is an asshole and not a nice guy...but we are getting results. I know you feel threatened by a great economy and positive results on the world stage (where obama failed miserably).

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1195634]You really go off the deep end here...I guess you were getting triggered and then you had to go racial which confirmed it.



Trump is an asshole and not a nice guy...but we are getting results. I know you feel threatened by a great economy and positive results on the world stage (where obama failed miserably).[/QUOTE]



Do you get triggered too sometimes or is that just us on the left? Lol.
Also you are always raving about the economy lately and im curious if you are personally better off these days or it is just what you here? Not trying to be nosy or anything but on my end:
Business is way down over last year here on the Jersey shore.
Gas prices are climbing.
I do not dabble in the stock market maybe you do but that is not the essence of a booming economy to me.
As for unemployment- that has been going down for years.
You can look at the economy from a million different angles. There are some that credit Obama - say it takes a long time for things to take affect. Some say that some of the things Trump is doing will lead to a major recession when the bubble bursts? These tariffs with Canada and Mexico may back fire big time? Saw a story the other day about the crab industry taking a huge hit down your way and they were all blaming Trump?
Anyway I know you wanna get all Herbert Hoover and a chicken in every pot, but let’s actually let things unfold before we start hailing him as the great American hero. Sort of like we will wait until we see what actually happens in NK before we give him the Nobel peace prize.
Outside of NK he has alienated several allies. He has done nothing about Russia meddling in our election- i know u blame Obama but from what I understand it certainly is on this administration to fix that. Trade Wars with our allies only time will tell man. Trump is a master manipulator and alot of smoke and mirrors. Throw in some straight up lies and dumb ass tweets. Let the dust settle before you put him on Mt Rushmore. He could be doing alot of damage behind the scenes. Which will probably result in the next administration being blamed- because things do not happen in real speed based on a tweet.