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[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/3/21/17146380/redskins-free-agency-rumors-olb-pernell-mcphee-gets-an-official-contract-offer-nfl[/url]

Offer to Pernell McPhee.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1191346][url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/3/21/17146380/redskins-free-agency-rumors-olb-pernell-mcphee-gets-an-official-contract-offer-nfl[/url]

Offer to Pernell McPhee.[/quote]

eh...

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Why are we making offers to non dominant players?

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[quote=MTK;1191349]Why are we making offers to non dominant players?[/quote]

Lol, I see what you did there.

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I don't get Bruce Allen. He has got to be the dumbest front office person ever. We need another big body in the middle. A 1st and 2nd down guy to go along with Allen and Co. We need to get more sturdy in the middle so when we're in that stupid ass base 3-4 guys that you didn't want( Alfred Morris) don't run for like 200 yards. There are or were guys out there. You pay for what you get just like last year when you paid McClain and McGee. Go get one of the top guys and let him be part of the rotation, or a guy that you can put over the center and let him dominate there. Instead you're chasing Cowboy rejects.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1191343]Smith is what he is at this point and that is a solid number 2 Edge rusher. Nothing more.[/quote]

This... he's too slow to be dominant.

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Would rather have Hankins, but I don't mind McPhee.

And why would anyone care about losing Crowder next year? Don't let the door hit you in the ass buddy.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1191358]This... he's too slow to be dominant.[/quote]

I don't see the urge to keep him long term just yet either, he had a ok season last yr, can he be better or is that his ceiling?

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[quote=simbosargos75;1191360]Would rather have Hankins, but I don't mind McPhee.

And why would anyone care about losing Crowder next year? Don't let the door hit you in the ass buddy.[/quote]

Wow, that is rough. If Paul Richardson can open the slot area a little more, then Crowder may turn into the comeback player of the year.

Although he should never ever touch another punt return!

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1191363]Wow, that is rough. If Paul Richardson can open the slot area a little more, then Crowder may turn into the comeback player of the year.

Although he should never ever touch another punt return![/QUOTE]I think returning punt (or muffing them over and over) was a huge blow to Crowder's confidence.
When you make a mistake like that you feel bad for your teammates and it can get into your head. He was not himself last season.

Not having a deep threat didn't help him either.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1191365]I think returning punt (or muffing them over and over) was a huge blow to Crowder's confidence.
When you make a mistake like that you feel bad for your teammates and it can get into your head. He was not himself last season.

Not having a deep threat didn't help him either.

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Yeah, maybe a little rough, but this is what I was getting at.

If he's the same player next year that he was last year, I'm not offering him anything.

Having said all that, I hope to see some improvement back to his earlier days.

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[quote=simbosargos75;1191360]Would rather have Hankins, but I don't mind McPhee.

And why would anyone care about losing Crowder next year? Don't let the door hit you in the ass buddy.[/quote]

Are you thinking that we won't be able to afford Hankins if we sign McPhee? I'm confident that if the Skins can sign Hankins they'll just cut McClain to gain some cap space.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1191367]Are you thinking that we won't be able to afford Hankins if we sign McPhee? I'm confident that if the Skins can sign Hankins they'll just cut McClain to gain some cap space.[/QUOTE]As bad as he was, I'm not sure cutting McClain is a great idea: over the cap says he has 7,25M fully garanted (dead cap is 3,75M in 2018. 2,5M in 2019. 1,25M in 2020).
So I don't know exactly how this works, (like if we cut him know do we owe him 3,75M or 3,75+2,5+1,25 ?) but cutting him now will only free a little less than 1M in 2018.

[url]https://overthecap.com/player/terrell-mcclain/1687/[/url]


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[quote=skinsfan69;1191358]This... he's too slow to be dominant.[/quote]

Correct. He lacks explosion, bend, and quickness although he is strong and long which helps. He should not have been drafted in Round 2 and I said so at the time.

Anderson should not have been drafted to play OLB, either. He's another 2nd Round mistake. I notice his name rarely comes up on this site. That's because he's invisible. His college coach, Lou Saban, said he expected Anderson to play ILB in the pros because he's a good run-stopper but not as good of a pass rusher. Somebody at Redskins Park doesn't know squat about projecting 3-4 OLB prospects.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1191368]As bad as he was, I'm not sure cutting McClain is a great idea: over the cap says he has 7,25M fully garanted (dead cap is 3,75M in 2018. 2,5M in 2019. 1,25M in 2020).
So I don't know exactly how this works, (like if we cut him know do we owe him 3,75M or 3,75+2,5+1,25 ?) but cutting him now will only free a little less than 1M in 2018.

[url]https://overthecap.com/player/terrell-mcclain/1687/[/url]


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McClain's contract was re-written to be guaranteed for injury only.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1191369]Correct. He lacks explosion, bend, and quickness although he is strong and long which helps. He should not have been drafted in Round 2 and I said so at the time.

Anderson should not have been drafted to play OLB, either. He's another 2nd Round mistake. I notice his name rarely comes up on this site. That's because he's invisible. His college coach, Lou Saban, said he expected Anderson to play ILB in the pros because he's a good run-stopper but not as good of a pass rusher. Somebody at Redskins Park doesn't know squat about projecting 3-4 OLB prospects.[/QUOTE]Another reason to switch to a 4-3 is to have play Anderson at ILB imo.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1191371]McClain's contract was re-written to be guaranteed for injury only.[/QUOTE]I read that somewhere but can't find anything about it... and I don't get why anybody would accept that...

Like "-hey could we restructure your contract in order to fire you without owing you sh*t? -yeah sure, do you have a pen?"

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Sylvester Williams signs with the Lions. At about the same time as Hankins visits.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1191375]I read that somewhere but can't find anything about it... and I don't get why anybody would accept that...

Like "-hey could we restructure your contract in order to fire you without owing you sh*t? -yeah sure, do you have a pen?"

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The guarantee would have kicked in if he was on the roster Sunday. I imagine the conversation went along the lines of look we aren't sure about your role this season and we may cut you Saturday, but if you change your guarantee to for injury only, then we will keep you on with an honest shot to compete for a roster spot. Let us know what you want to do.

Here's a good link on it:
[url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-make-d-line-contract-change-gain-roster-flexibility]Redskins make a D-line contract change, gain roster flexibility | NBC Sports Washington[/url]

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1191377]The guarantee would have kicked in if he was on the roster Sunday. I imagine the conversation went along the lines of look we aren't sure about your role this season and we may cut you Saturday, but if you change your guarantee to for injury only, then we will keep you on with an honest shot to compete for a roster spot. Let us know what you want to do.

Here's a good link on it:
[url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-make-d-line-contract-change-gain-roster-flexibility]Redskins make a D-line contract change, gain roster flexibility | NBC Sports Washington[/url][/QUOTE]Good read, thanks.
So yeah it'd free 3.4M this year but count 2.5M against our cap next year. Better than the original 7M garanted.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1191367]Are you thinking that we won't be able to afford Hankins if we sign McPhee? I'm confident that if the Skins can sign Hankins they'll just cut McClain to gain some cap space.[/quote]

I think they can, but it'll be tough. I really hate the Scandrick signing. Take that away and McPhee and Hankins is no problem. And I'd much rather have McPhee than Scandrick.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1191369]Correct. He lacks explosion, bend, and quickness although he is strong and long which helps. He should not have been drafted in Round 2 and I said so at the time.

[B]Anderson should not have been drafted to play OLB, either. He's another 2nd Round mistake. I notice his name rarely comes up on this site. That's because he's invisible. His college coach, Lou Saban, said he expected Anderson to play ILB in the pros[/B] because he's a good run-stopper but not as good of a pass rusher. Somebody at Redskins Park doesn't know squat about projecting 3-4 OLB prospects.[/quote]

Agree, he's out of position. He's perfect for ILB in the 3-4 but for some reason he's playing OLB. I don't get what they're doing there but maybe he'll be moved inside when OTA's start. When he rushes the passer he simply could not beat NFL tackles. I remember he was being compared to Freeney. Not even close.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1191380]Agree, he's out of position. He's perfect for ILB in the 3-4 but for some reason he's playing OLB. I don't get what they're doing there but maybe he'll be moved inside when OTA's start. When he rushes the passer he simply could not beat NFL tackles. I remember he was being compared to Freeney. Not even close.[/QUOTE]



I wonder if they consider resigning Gallette to have another OLB and move him inside. That would work for me.


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[quote=calia;1191381]I wonder if they consider resigning Gallette to have another OLB and move him inside. That would work for me.


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According to Chick Hernandez, the Skins offered Galette a contract but they low-balled him. They also met with McPhee but didn't sign him when he was here.

I have no idea what they'll do with Anderson.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1191380]Agree, he's out of position. He's perfect for ILB in the 3-4 but for some reason he's playing OLB. I don't get what they're doing there but maybe he'll be moved inside when OTA's start. When he rushes the passer he simply could not beat NFL tackles. I remember he was being compared to Freeney. Not even close.[/quote]

I totally agree he is out of position at OLB, but I don't believe he would be a fit as 3-4 ILB. He is much slower than any other ILB on our roster, he would be the worst ILB in coverage and I think he would struggle to change directions and get to the hole if he didn't initially make the right read.

He is more of an ILB in a 4-3 who can play down near the line in an over front. (Not my idea, Cooley and others are beating this drum on 980 every time his name comes up)

To be blunt, I don't think he is a good fit any where in our current defensive scheme based on what he showed last year.

Do you think he is fast enough, and quick enough to play ILB in a 3-4?

No idea where he would fit in nickel.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1191386]I totally agree he is out of position at OLB, but I don't believe he would be a fit as 3-4 ILB. He is much slower than any other ILB on our roster, he would be the worst ILB in coverage and I think he would struggle to change directions and get to the hole if he didn't initially make the right read.

He is more of an ILB in a 4-3 who can play down near the line in an over front. (Not my idea, Cooley and others are beating this drum on 980 every time his name comes up)

To be blunt, I don't think he is a good fit any where in our current defensive scheme based on what he showed last year.

Do you think he is fast enough, and quick enough to play ILB in a 3-4?

No idea where he would fit in nickel.[/QUOTE]In nickel he'd probably fit on the bench... but I wouldn't give up on our 2nd round pick yet.

The more I think about it, the more our roster fits a 4-3 more than a 3-4:

-Even if we sign Hankins, who could be a nose, he played DT so far, he's not a great pass rusher but he could fit a 4-3, the Colts mainly wanted to save cap

-Smith and Kerrigan can't cover, so they effectively are DEs more than OLBs (Cooley even said Kerrigan could move inside on the line)

-Anderson is not an edge rusher, so with Murphy gone and Galette unsigned, we currently have only 2 "OLBs" (am I forgetting anyone?)

-Brown and Anderson with Foster in the middle would work. Vigil is a solid back up, Spaight had his flashes, Harvey Clemons is a nice hybrid LB, we may need one more guy for depth

(Don't tell me we already run many plays in a 4-3, we don't, we run many plays in a 4-2, which isn't good against the run)

DLs: Hankins, Allen, Ioannidis, Kerrigan, Smith, McGee and Lanier rotating

LBs: Brown and Anderson outside, Foster in the middle

Doesn't it sound good ?

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Been waiting for this Good NEWS Lawd I’m THANKFUL 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

From Junior's twitter account..

I would assume this means he will be staying in DC

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1191317]He improved from Sucks to Below Average. We can do much better. I'd rather spend on some other player. Sacks is what teams pay for at his position. But I did hear that he's good to his mother. How much is that worth against the salary cap?[/quote]

Below average? I am not claiming that Smith is elite player although, I believe he is definitely better than average player and still can get even better. We should try to keep him.. I encourage you to analyze deeper instead of determining a player's worth based on your opinion.

Let's go with your avenue - we let Smith go, who will replace him? Galette? Anderson?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1191389]Been waiting for this Good NEWS Lawd I’m THANKFUL 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

From Junior's twitter account..

I would assume this means he will be staying in DC[/quote]

Pretty ambiguous tweet. We will see. I'ld like it if that meant they worked out the numbers for him and Hankins together. I am sure they were trying to balance the DL spending.

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[quote=GridIron26;1191390]Below average? I am not claiming that Smith is elite player although, I believe he is definitely better than average player and still can get even better. We should try to keep him.. I encourage you to analyze deeper instead of determining a player's worth based on your opinion.

Let's go with your avenue - we let Smith go, who will replace him? Galette? Anderson?[/quote]

i agree - he may NOT be an elite pass rusher, but he's solid. He has a tendancy to make plays as well, he picks the ball off a bit, he's always sniffing around the ball/tackle/play.... he's by no means a slouch and he does get pressure on the qb... yes he may vanish sometimes, but who the f doesnt get tired? Or have the flow of the play going away from them alot? I remember being more surprised, than let down with his play so far. He's got plenty of room to improve so we should let him.

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If Preston Smith is below average then 95% of our roster is dog doo doo.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1191393]If Preston Smith is below average then 95% of our roster is dog doo doo.[/quote]

he's def Avg not below

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hatters gone hatt

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[quote=Meks;1191396]hatters gone hatt[/quote]

I'm no hatter but I do not like Smith as a player. Please go to Post #514 on this thread and listen to what Cooley had to say about Smith, particularly about how poorly he played the run in a game where he had a good showing as a pass rusher. That Cooley is a real hatter! Where does he get off wanting Smith to play the pass [U]and[/U] the run in the [U]same[/U] game?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1191389]Been waiting for this Good NEWS Lawd I’m THANKFUL 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

From Junior's twitter account..

I would assume this means he will be staying in DC[/quote]

Guess not:

[quote]Chick Hernandez
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Verified account

@CHICKatNBCS


Per source, the Redskins have withdrawn their latest offer to Junior Galette. Several teams remain in play including Cleveland and a reunion with Scot McCloughan who originally brought the edge rushing specialist to Washington. The Rams have also had discussions. #redskins[/quote]

[quote]John Keim
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@john_keim

Retweeted Chick Hernandez
Skins understanding is that other teams would make him a better offer; yep, they have talked to Galette about the situation. Yes, Cleveland and the Rams. No offer has yet been made. Clearly has connections with both teams: McCloughan in Cle; McVay, Joe Barry in LA[/quote]

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Dang that sucks.. We will need to find a pass rusher now unless we sign McPhee [emoji58]

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Really not as active in free agency as I thought we would be...jg hurts
But if we can get that other dude Pernell? Than it’s all good

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1191449]I'm no hatter but I do not like Smith as a player. Please go to Post #514 on this thread and listen to what Cooley had to say about Smith, particularly about how poorly he played the run in a game where he had a good showing as a pass rusher. That Cooley is a real hatter! Where does he get off wanting Smith to play the pass [U]and[/U] the run in the [U]same[/U] game?[/quote]

How dare he! But yea i agree with you, and him, that there is a need for improvement when it comes to read and react and being in better position against the run. I also think he is still learning and will continue to improve so the least we can do is give him that chance, there is potential there before we relawsr him.

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I wonder if Redskins decided to withdraw their offer for Galette (since he is taking a while to make a decision & other teams offering more money) so they can use that money to up their offer for Hankins or McPhee?

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[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/36032/redskins-ready-to-move-on-from-junior-galette]Washington Redskins ready to move on from Junior Galette - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]