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MTK 12-07-2018 01:37 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
I'm sure Snyder will do anything he can to help Smith and his family right now, but that's a separate thing from the business side of things with the contract.

If the team could get out from under it right now they sure as hell would. Smith doesn't have to be a "nice guy" and concede anything. He's got a contract with significant guarantees for injury. Good for him, this situation is exactly why his agent pushed for that part of the deal.

CRedskinsRule 12-07-2018 01:42 PM

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[quote=sevier2;1211884]I can't really say I have any proof of how Dan runs things within his own office. I'm also not saying he has "screwed Skins players with a loophole."

The point I was trying to convey is the fact that NFL teams treat players as a commodity. They trade/release/sign players at their own free will with little regard to how that will effect a players life. Example: K. Fuller found out he was going to the Chiefs via ESPN.

I can only assume the players have seen these instances at a more up-close level and thus don't feel the need to honor any owners "best wishes."

How many times have you heard players, coaches and GM's alike say, "At the end of the day it's a business..."

So, in terms of business, Smith is going to accept every penny that the Redskins agreed to pay him, as he should. And, as a business, the Redskins are NOT going to pay him more than they said they would, because why would they?

Smith is a nice guy, yes. But business is business.[/quote]

I agree with all this. You just added the "Specifically when it's Dan Snyder" that threw me.

Irrefutable 12-07-2018 02:04 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
renegotiate the contract.....2019 $10 million, then $3 million for the next 15 years

sevier2 12-07-2018 02:12 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1211891]I agree with all this. You just added the "Specifically when it's Dan Snyder" that threw me.[/quote]

Makes sense. I probably could have said the same thing and left Snyder out of it.

sdskinsfan2001 12-07-2018 10:25 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1211859]This is a big plus for sure. Smith should do the right thing and post june 1st announce retirement.

Its sucks for him, but he is done.[/quote]

Nothing good about this. People can die from post surgical complications, and definitely with infections. I know that's not what you were getting at, but this whole thing sucks way beyond W/Ls & Salary Cap.

calia 12-07-2018 10:30 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
[quote=MTK;1211888]I'm sure Snyder will do anything he can to help Smith and his family right now, but that's a separate thing from the business side of things with the contract.

If the team could get out from under it right now they sure as hell would. Smith doesn't have to be a "nice guy" and concede anything. [B]He's got a contract with significant guarantees for injury. Good for him, this situation is exactly why his agent pushed for that part of the deal[/B].[/quote]

It was called the Shawn Luavo clause.

calia 12-07-2018 10:31 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1211912]Nothing good about this. People can die from post surgical complications, and definitely with infections. I know that's not what you were getting at, but this whole thing sucks way beyond W/Ls & Salary Cap.[/quote]

Well said.

5superbowls3wins 12-08-2018 08:24 PM

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Sorry if this has been shared already, but an interesting read on Smith’s contract and Redskins options

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hogshaven.com/platform/amp/2018/12/8/18131998/trying-to-understand-the-alex-smith-contract-and-impact-on-salary-cap[/url]


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skinsfaninok 12-10-2018 02:30 PM

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The Redskins turned the ball over nine times in their first 10 games... They have turned it over 7 times in the last three games after Alex Smith was lost for the season. They have a minus-5 turnover differential in that span; they were plus-12 in the first 10 games.

The main reason this team has fallen off is Alex Smith, don't talk to me about stats. Dude was a leader and didn't turn the ball over

rocnrik 12-10-2018 02:43 PM

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If Smith had not been hurt I really believe we would be talking legit playoff run..we would have at least 2 more wins .. it’s heartbreaking to see him go through this and I hope he can come back .. Dang this team has horrible luck !

SFREDSKIN 12-11-2018 11:17 PM

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Poor Alex has had to endure like 6 surgeries, I hope he recovers to lead a normal life.

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Article/Alex-Smith-half-dozen-leg-surgeries--126112924/[/url]

skinsfaninok 12-12-2018 09:00 AM

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[quote=rocnrik;1212568]If Smith had not been hurt I really believe we would be talking legit playoff run..we would have at least 2 more wins .. it’s heartbreaking to see him go through this and I hope he can come back .. Dang this team has horrible luck ![/quote]

There is no doubt we would be a playoff team, look at the weak NFC right now.

Chico23231 12-12-2018 09:29 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1212799]Poor Alex has had to endure like 6 surgeries, I hope he recovers to lead a normal life.

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Article/Alex-Smith-half-dozen-leg-surgeries--126112924/[/url][/quote]

damn man that's terrible. Hope he can recover properly and just retire. Not good

SkinzWin 12-12-2018 04:37 PM

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Joe Flacco taking a trip around the beltway to DC next year?

[url]https://www.12up.com/posts/6245629-breaking-ravens-announce-lamar-jackson-to-remain-starter-with-joe-flacco-healthy/partners/40920[/url]

sdskinsfan2001 12-12-2018 04:51 PM

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If we end up with Flacco I'll cry. I'd rather watch Josh Johnson go all year.

Meks 12-12-2018 04:55 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1212899]If we end up with Flacco I'll cry. I'd rather watch Josh Johnson go all year.[/quote]

You're prolly right

REDSKINS4ever 12-12-2018 05:09 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
I'd rather the organization make the decision to draft a quarterback...either Brett Rypien, Tyree Jackson, Will Grier, or Daniel Jones....if the organization is wise they will draft a QB early and late in the draft, trade Colt, and have Alex Smith as the backup.....depending on how long it takes for Smith to go through recovery and rehab.

Irrefutable 12-12-2018 05:13 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
Draft a QB and get settlement with Alex Smith.

Colt and rookie for a year.

Let Crowder and Preston Smith walk. HaHa too.

Try Apke as a WR. And hoard draft choices

Meks 12-12-2018 05:19 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1212902]I'd rather the organization make the decision to draft a quarterback...either Brett Rypien, Tyree Jackson, Will Grier, or Daniel Jones....if the organization is wise they will draft a QB early and late in the draft, trade Colt, and have Alex Smith as the backup.....depending on how long it takes for Smith to go through recovery and rehab.[/quote]

Trade colt, lol, for what? Ham sando?

punch it in 12-12-2018 05:29 PM

ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1212902]I'd rather the organization make the decision to draft a quarterback...either Brett Rypien, Tyree Jackson, Will Grier, or Daniel Jones....if the organization is wise they will draft a QB early and late in the draft, trade Colt, and have Alex Smith as the backup.....depending on how long it takes for Smith to go through recovery and rehab.[/QUOTE]



After this year we are going into the next with an already injured quarterback as our back up? No way. Jordan Reed would be starting week 4. I want to see what happens with JJ the rest of the way. Maybe go into next season with him, a draft pick, and Colt. Because like Meks said wtf r we getting for him in a trade? Not even sure about Smith. If he progresses well and still wants to play than throw him in the mix as a third until he is all the way back and ditch either McCoy or JJ.

jamf 12-12-2018 05:42 PM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
There is a good change JJ is going to get killed behind this line.
I don't know what he could possibly do that isn't RPO.

sdskinsfan2001 12-13-2018 02:41 AM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
[quote=punch it in;1212905]After this year we are going into the next with an already injured quarterback as our back up? No way. Jordan Reed would be starting week 4. I want to see what happens with JJ the rest of the way. Maybe go into next season with him, a draft pick, and Colt. Because like Meks said wtf r we getting for him in a trade? Not even sure about Smith. If he progresses well and still wants to play than throw him in the mix as a third until he is all the way back and ditch either McCoy or JJ.[/quote]

We're gonna need 4 qbs next year to start the season, with 1 being a practice squad guy.

Hopefully 1 is a draft pick because we're due for a young potential starter.

SFREDSKIN 12-16-2018 09:29 AM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
Good news for Alex, he’s been released from the hospital.

[url]http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25543170/qb-alex-smith-washington-redskins-hospital-surgeries-infection[/url]

MTK 12-16-2018 09:38 AM

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Good news for Alex, I wish him a speedy recovery


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Buffalo Bob 12-16-2018 10:11 AM

Re: ALEX SMITH and moving forward.
 
Best wishes to Alex, he was in the hospital almost a month, yikes!

skinsfan69 12-16-2018 10:50 AM

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Good for Alex. Hope his leg keeps improving.


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