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Its a tough choice but both can be an franchise QB for us. It all comes down to the combine.....I can see Bradford pulling it. But Clausen is the more upside guy, he's seen pressure, a 3 year WCO QB, and has good mobility in and out of the pocket.


These two are the best QB's since the great Cutler draft that had alot of hype. Actully this is better than that, Matt Leinhart and VY where to become busts. Cutler was never considered one.
But we can compare to both of them but Clausen is special.....he's the more accurate , less armed Cutler in this draft.
Any idiot would be dumb to think Candle could do any wonders for us.

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Oh need to correct myself, we def. do not have the same DB coach still in Jerry Grey. it was highly publicized about everything that went down with him and now he is with the seahawks. I meant we still have the same Safeties coach.

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I looked at some footage on Davis, and didin't see how he specifically sucked? Can someone fill me in please?

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Davis is arguably the most talented LT in this draft...but he's not really a ZBS guy. But even that's not such a huge deal, neither was Ryan Clady I don't think.

The bigger concern is his attitude and work ethic. Late for practices, skips meetings, shows up overweight. Doesn't always put in the effort to match his talent

But that kind of question mark is just the type of guy that Shanahan likes

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[quote=LandrySlice;662396]I looked at some footage on Davis, and didin't see how he specifically sucked? Can someone fill me in please?[/quote]

Gives up on blocks, doesn't move his feet at times, bends at the waist at times. It's all in that video. Besides it's not that he sucks, it's that he's not top 10 material.

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^^^ i think, atleast what we have read on shanny, is that he likes those top talent guys that drop to the 3rd round or later. (clarrett, b marshall had off field 'tude)

i dont see davis dropping past the mid part of round 1.

when a guy has weight and work ethic problems, i would stay away from them in the first couple rounds imo. this davis reminds me of the OT davis last year that the bengals took. the bengals davis held out for a long time, then when he finally took the practice field for the very first time he injured himself for the year.

granted this davis hasnt left the combine early yet or has footage of his man boobs bouncing around but no way do i take a big overweight guy with dedication problems in the first 2 rounds.

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[quote=over the mountain;662473]^^^ i think, atleast what we have read on shanny, is that he likes those top talent guys that drop to the 3rd round or later. (clarrett, b marshall had off field 'tude)

i dont see davis dropping past the mid part of round 1.

when a guy has weight and work ethic problems, i would stay away from them in the first couple rounds imo. this davis reminds me of the OT davis last year that the bengals took. the bengals davis held out for a long time, then when he finally took the practice field for the very first time he injured himself for the year.

granted this davis hasnt left the combine early yet or [B]has footage of his man boobs bouncing around[/B] but no way do i take a big overweight guy with dedication problems in the first 2 rounds.[/quote]

I think Gerald McCoy did the man boobs gig this year.

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/malcolm-kelly-gives-his-though.html#more]Redskins Insider - Malcolm Kelly gives his thoughts on Sam Bradford[/url]

Malcolm Kelly's take on Sam Bradford.

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The more I watch tapes of Bradford, hear him talk, and talk to people about him. I think he's worth whatever risk his shoulder might bring.

I'll admit though to perhaps being overly enamored with his intangibles

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[quote=SmootSmack;662575]The more I watch tapes of Bradford, hear him talk, and talk to people about him. I think he's worth whatever risk his shoulder might bring.

I'll admit though to perhaps being overly enamored with his intangibles[/quote]

Bradford is really the only guy that keeps throwing a wrench into my "O-Line first" thought process. We can win with JC with a good o-line, I really believe that, but Bradford for some reason does appear to be "special." He seems to have the accuracy, the smarts, and the demeanor to be an outstanding QB. I can't wait for the combine.

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[quote=53Fan;662595]Bradford is really the only guy that keeps throwing a wrench into my "O-Line first" thought process. We can win with JC with a good o-line, I really believe that, but Bradford for some reason does appear to be "special." He seems to have the accuracy, the smarts, and the demeanor to be an outstanding QB. I can't wait for the combine.[/quote]

Bradfor minus his injury plus him actually playing in his last season would change my "O-line first' attitude." It just that with our luck, I could see Bradford getting injured during pre-season. I guess that I should give Shanny's ability to build an offensive line more of a chance, but I just feel that a first-round tackle would be a good way to rebuild our worst unit from last season.

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But we shouldn't take a tackle at #4 just to say we took a tackle.

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[quote=SmootSmack;662612]But we shouldn't take a tackle at #4 just to say we took a tackle.[/quote]

Come SS, you know I'm not that simple minded. I think the best situation is to trade down and get more picks. I just don't like the whole risking it all in a QB at #4, especially if the best tackle in the draft is available.

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Let's just trade for Billy Volek and be done with it.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;662609]Bradfor minus his injury plus him actually playing in his last season would change my "O-line first' attitude." It just that with our luck, I could see Bradford getting injured during pre-season. I guess that I should give Shanny's ability to build an offensive line more of a chance,[B] but I just feel that a first-round tackle would be a good way to rebuild our worst unit from last season.[/[/B]QUOTE]

It's hard to argue with that Ruh, therein lies my mental conflict.