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[quote=skinsnut;1111482]If we pick up the option, what is the impact of our ability to trade him for the option year?....I mean...does this mean his final year is 16M?
If so, even if he plays great, we wont be able to trade him, right?

Or does this give us the ability to trade him next year with this 16M in case of full year injury clause with a different salary?

Can someone please explain?[/quote]

No impact on our ability to trade him.

If a team wanted to trade for him in the last year of his contract they would likely have an extension in mind. They would only trade with the Skins if Griffin were amenable to the new contract terms they had in mind.

We have the same ability to trade him in his final season as we would with any other player in his final season.

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[quote=Schneed10;1111484]As soon as we pick up the option $16M goes against our 2016 cap. 2016 cap, not 2015 cap.

But if we exercise the option and then either trade or cut him, then all $16M comes back off the cap.[/quote]

Thanks

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1111486]Thanks[/quote]

The only way the $ is guaranteed is for an injury.

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[quote=irish;1111664]The only way the $ is guaranteed is for an injury.[/quote]

He's had 2 major injuries the past 2 years, and other numerous smaller ones as well. Why take that gamble? Haven't we gambled enough with RGIII? It's like they are doubling down on stupidity. If he weren't injury prone, I wouldn't have an issue with the option year since it's only guaranteed for injury.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1111670]He's had 2 major injuries the past 2 years, and other numerous smaller ones as well. Why take that gamble? Haven't we gambled enough with RGIII? It's like they are doubling down on stupidity. If he weren't injury prone, I wouldn't have an issue with the option year since it's only guaranteed for injury.[/quote]

RG is injury prone so this is a definite risk for the Skins.

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Pretty much a done deal.
[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/McCloughan-announces-Redskins-will-pick-up-RGIIIs-2016-option-36981553]McCloughan announces Redskins will pick up RGIII's 2016 option[/url]

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This just screams of Snyder being the same old Snyder. It makes no sense at all to do this. What is one positive thing that comes from this as an organization? All it does is benefit RGIII. I'd be really surprised if Scot Mc was ok with this because my gut feeling is that Snyder went to him and said..."I am going to pick up the option on RGIII. Period. Now go announce it."

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[quote=Redskins247;1111673]This just screams of Snyder being the same old Snyder. It makes no sense at all to do this. What is one positive thing that comes from this as an organization? All it does is benefit RGIII. I'd be really surprised if Scot Mc was ok with this because my gut feeling is that Snyder went to him and said..."I am going to pick up the option on RGIII. Period. Now go announce it."[/quote]

Its not like because they took this option they cant cut RG, they can. I think RG has to come right out of the box playing well because if he doesnt then they will bench him to avoid the injury and possibly cut him.

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[quote=irish;1111674]Its not like because they took this option they cant cut RG, they can. I think RG has to come right out of the box playing well because if he doesnt then they will bench him to avoid the injury and possibly cut him.[/quote]

I understand that...but they could have done that WITHOUT this contract and being at risk! That's why it makes no sense to do it. In the first game Suh could put him out with one hit...and the $16 million would be his. Just makes no sense.

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[quote=Redskins247;1111675]I understand that...but they could have done that WITHOUT this contract and being at risk! That's why it makes no sense to do it. In the first game Suh could put him out with one hit...and the $16 million would be his. Just makes no sense.[/quote]

Wrong. If Suh puts him out with a hit that sidelines him for 2015 AND 2016 then the guarantee kicks in. From what I understand it all comes down to the year end physical and if he passes it then the option is not guaranteed. If he fails then it's guaranteed. There's really minimal risk, even with his injury history.

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Someone in another thread mentioned "we should do this because we have invested so much to get him"
IMO, as an organization and we need to get over what we invested to get him. That is in the past. We need to be careful not to make a big $16M decisions based what we invested in him and the past.
I understand the potential value and desire to keep his rights as long as we can just in case he has a miracle come back year in 2015.
However my fear is he plays just good enough to where we are enticed to keep him and pay him $16M, but he never plays well enough to meets that $16m value.......a la Orakpo.

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[quote=Redskins247;1111675]I understand that...but they could have done that WITHOUT this contract and being at risk! That's why it makes no sense to do it. In the first game Suh could put him out with one hit...and the $16 million would be his. Just makes no sense.[/quote]

Wrong. If Suh puts him out with a hit that sidelines him for 2015 and he fails a physical in January, then the guarantee kicks in. From what I understand it all comes down to the year end physical and if he passes it then the option is not guaranteed. If he fails then it's guaranteed. There's really minimal risk, even with his injury history.

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And if he plays decent enough all year and doesnt leave his spleen on the field then its a good thing.
Who has a better crystal ball?

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Whether or not it makes sense to do this all depends on your perception of the injury risk.

Important reminder that I'm going to keep saying till I'm blue in the face: this only guarantees the salary AGAINST INJURY. If he's not hurt GOING INTO 2016, then the team can cut (or trade) him and walk away from the $16M salary with no cap consequence. In other words, this only guarantees against injury, not against sucking.

So if after considering that, and you still feel it's a big risk, then you must think RGIII's chances of having an injury big enough to last from the end of 2015 into 2016 is greater than 50%.

I'd say that's crazy. Even the devastating ankle injury last year didn't span the entire course of the offseason. Even if he got hurt in week 17, it still wouldn't have. There are only a handful of injuries that could span that long, the dreaded ACL and achilles stuff. Possible, sure. Greater than 50%? If you think so you're a panicky little risk-averse schmuck.

Do some cost-benefit thinking once in a while, tools.

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What happened to "in Scott we trust" ... Man people flip like light switches lol.
I'm passed the point of caring anymore lol, it is what it is, I don't run or have any involvement with the team, so, so be it, let them do what they may, can't wait for the draft and season to begin! I will always be die hard, but I'm tired of giving the front office my attention or energy, hey, hope it works out for them and us.