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NC_Skins 03-20-2016 11:39 AM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=That Guy;1141036]it honestly makes a lot of sense for dallas, he'll be cheap and that line will open holes. he just needs to prove he can figure out his hesitation issues from last year to get back on track.

i'd rather he go somewhere else, but that's probably his best option if he wants to show he can still play.[/quote]

I agree with matty. Morris benefitted greatly from RG3 and the read option.

skinsfan69 03-20-2016 11:45 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1141059]sad how far he has fallen... nobody wants him[/quote]

The eye in the sky doesn't lie. All the teams see his tape from 13 and 14. Pretty surprising that the Rams or SF haven't called for him. Maybe they will at some poont.

skinsfaninok 03-20-2016 11:47 AM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1141071]The eye in the sky doesn't lie. All the teams see his tape from 13 and 14. Pretty surprising that the Rams or SF haven't called for him. Maybe they will at some poont.[/QUOTE]
Maybe but I don't think it'll be before the draft. I assume his attitude and negative views from others haven't helped him either. I was almost certain he'd go to Houston

SkinsGuru 03-20-2016 02:01 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1141071]The eye in the sky doesn't lie. All the teams see his tape from 13 and 14. Pretty surprising that the Rams or SF haven't called for him. Maybe they will at some poont.[/quote]

why would the Rams call for him? . . . they have the best young RB to come out in a long time . . . and a couple of backups that are just as good if not better than Alfred Morris . . . 49ers too, Carlos Hyde is far better overall runner than Alfmo . . . Alfmo had two great years for a reason, first was RGIII as all mobile QB's make the running game better .. . and Mike Shanahan as all Shanahan teams have good running games, no matter the back . . . and 9 times out of 10, when that running back leaves Shanahan (in in this case when Shanahan leaves the running back) he looks average at best.

skinsfan69 03-20-2016 02:29 PM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=SkinsGuru;1141086]why would the Rams call for him? . . . they have the best young RB to come out in a long time . . . and a couple of backups that are just as good if not better than Alfred Morris . . . 49ers too, Carlos Hyde is far better overall runner than Alfmo . . . Alfmo had two great years for a reason, first was RGIII as all mobile QB's make the running game better .. . and Mike Shanahan as all Shanahan teams have good running games, no matter the back . . . and 9 times out of 10, when that running back leaves Shanahan (in in this case when Shanahan leaves the running back) he looks average at best.[/quote]

We're talking about Griffin, not Morris.

30gut 03-20-2016 02:58 PM

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Re:Morris to Dallas

I would hate it. HATE it. If Morris went to Dallas. I already think it's a mistake choosing Jones over him. But, I would wish him well except for those 2 games.

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DYoungJelly 03-20-2016 06:44 PM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
Lies, damned lies, and statistics:

[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2016/2016-free-agency-cost-benefit-analysis]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2016 Free Agency Cost-Benefit Analysis[/url]

I really like FO work for the most part.

This article covers "major" free agent signings. We don't appear on the good or bad list.

NYG appear in exactly the right place at the worst end of the bad deal list.

Their two "bad" signings are going to have to play all world to live up to the contract.

Schneed10 03-20-2016 07:02 PM

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[quote=Meks;1141065]Morris > McFadden every year since he came in the league, even when struggling probably... what would be different? System knowledge? I still think ALFMO can start in the league and imo for sure beat out mcfadden if he signed with dallas .. i really hope he doesnt sign with those clowns smh[/quote]

Wrong. Morris without the threat of RG3's run on the read option is decidedly mediocre. Also a non factor as a pass catcher.

McFadden actually has speed, he's a threat to take it to the house.

Meks 03-20-2016 08:42 PM

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Im speaking statistics, hes played better and had better stats each year since he came in (obviously minus this season) just judging by the eye test

He crushed him 12, 13, 14 head and shoulders above em..
I think in a competition ALFMO beats him out wether they ask him to catch a ton of passes or not..they threw to Morris a whopping 13 times last year... he caught 10 of them.... mcfadden didn't even have a ton more catches than Chris Thompson last year lol

SFREDSKIN 03-21-2016 04:42 PM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
Glad we didn't sign NT Ian Williams, he failed his physical due to multiple ankles surgeries and the 49ers re-did his contract to 1 year instead of 5. He might not start the season.

[url=http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/source-49ers-williams-agree-one-year-deal-due-lengthy-rehab]Source: 49ers, Williams amend deal after failed physical | CSN Bay Area[/url]

SkinsGuru 03-21-2016 04:44 PM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1141088]We're talking about Griffin, not Morris.[/quote]

lol . . . sorry

Giantone 03-21-2016 08:04 PM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1141095]Lies, damned lies, and statistics:

[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2016/2016-free-agency-cost-benefit-analysis]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2016 Free Agency Cost-Benefit Analysis[/url]

I really like FO work for the most part.

This article covers "major" free agent signings. We don't appear on the good or bad list.

NYG appear in exactly the right place at the worst end of the bad deal list.

Their two "bad" signings are going to have to play all world to live up to the contract.[/quote]

[url=http://giantswire.usatoday.com/2016/03/21/pro-football-focus-criticism-of-giants-offseason-doesnt-add-up-based-on-their-own-rankings/]Pro Football Focus criticism of Giants offseason doesn’t add up based on their own rankings | Giants Wire[/url]

CRedskinsRule 03-21-2016 08:35 PM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=Giantone;1141157][url=http://giantswire.usatoday.com/2016/03/21/pro-football-focus-criticism-of-giants-offseason-doesnt-add-up-based-on-their-own-rankings/]Pro Football Focus criticism of Giants offseason doesn’t add up based on their own rankings | Giants Wire[/url][/quote]

lol at the commenter Chip Warren's note.

[quote]"The site gave the Giants, who spent big on some of the biggest names in free agency including defensive end Olivier Vernon, nose tackle Damon Harrison, cornerback Janoris Jenkins and re-signing defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul among others, didn’t get great value from free agency to date."

Hey buddy I give you an F- for your horrendous writing skills.You would do well to get someone to proofread your stories.[/quote]

As to the premise of the article, it seems like the writer wanted to make the case that overpaying was ok because you got players pff ranked high before FA(1, 8, 28). But having a high ranking doesn't mean that over paying for those players is going to give you a high grade when it comes to ranking the value added to your team. In fact the [URL="http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2016/2016-free-agency-cost-benefit-analysis"]FO article[/URL] made the case pretty convincingly that the Giants did [B][U]not[/U][/B] make money wise decisions with the contracts they gave their FA signings.

Giantone 03-22-2016 02:00 AM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1141158]lol at the commenter Chip Warren's note.



As to the premise of the article, it seems like the writer wanted to make the case that overpaying was ok because you got players pff ranked high before FA(1, 8, 28). But having a high ranking doesn't mean that over paying for those players is going to give you a high grade when it comes to ranking the value added to your team. In fact the [URL="http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2016/2016-free-agency-cost-benefit-analysis"]FO article[/URL] made the case pretty convincingly that the Giants did [B][U]not[/U][/B] make money wise decisions with the contracts they gave their FA signings.[/quote]

LOL, and again that must be seen when the season starts.

That Guy 03-22-2016 03:18 AM

Re: NFL Free Agency 2016
 
it'd be shocking if they weren't better this year and the next, but that doesn't mean the contracts won't be a net negative over their entire term, since that money can't then be used on younger players that might end up walking etc. overspending now limits you in future years, not the current one.

not saying it can't work or pff is right/wrong, just that it's risky and spending sprees tend to work out poorly. jpp was a good value buy though, esp since you know exactly what he provides in the giants system.


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