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tryfuhl 12-14-2008 04:12 PM

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ugh.....

horse 12-14-2008 04:13 PM

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75 yrds of penalties, All the dropped picks and ofcourse the fumble, You know we really screwed ourselves this game.

bjschmonsees 12-14-2008 04:14 PM

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Does the Danny stick with Zorny or is Cowher introduced as the next Redskin head coach in mid-january?

Skinsfanatic 12-14-2008 04:14 PM

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I hate that I bought tickets months ago and I am traveling 5 hours each way next Sunday to see this low quality of a product. It makes me sick on my stomach.

SFREDSKIN 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

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[quote=bjschmonsees;511594] I'm starting to believe that the native americans who put a curse on this team have been very effective...[/quote]

I agree 100%. I've been saying that for years

RFKRat 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

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[quote=QueensRedskinsFan;511593]The Redskins are such a f*ckin joke, they just lost to the Bengals...the second worst team in football...

I'm happy baseball is only a few months away and I'm happy my football team calls 3rd down plays to receivers that are 3 yds short of the marker every time...bye bye Jim Zorn you loser[/quote]

Why is anyone really suprised at this? They also lost to the Rams. Barely beat Cleveland and Seattle.

I think as much as the coaches need to be blamed, the players themselves should be just as much blamed. What a bunch of whiny, lazy bums. They're a disgrace to themselves, the fans, their families, the city and the logo on the helmet. The whole lot of them.

What a laughingstock.

ST21RIP 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

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[quote=Bushead;511595]He's a rookie head coach!? I don't get anyone on this site. Remember when we changed coaches every 2 years? Remember when we went out and had big splashes YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. Remember constantly cutting those people we got so hyped about only a year afterwards?

Its one season. It started out great, then the schedule got extremely tough. Now injuries and wear and tear is starting to show because the lack of depth at certain positions.

So lets have Jason Campbell learn another play book this offseason and all the W Receivers?[/quote]

ATL and B MORE both have rookie coaches. oh yeah, and they both have rookie qbs? How they looking. Stop making excuses for zorn. he not an NFL head coach. he coached in seattle for 10 years and he wasnt even going to holmgren's successor. that will be mora jr.

Ijaeger 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

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[quote=horse;511598]75 yrds of penalties, All the dropped picks and ofcourse the fumble, You know we really screwed ourselves this game.[/quote]

Try most games

QueensRedskinsFan 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

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[quote=horse;511598]75 yrds of penalties, All the dropped picks and ofcourse the fumble, You know we really screwed ourselves this game.[/quote]

Hey horse, i see you're from long island...at least we have the Mets...
K-ROD + PUTZ = WORLD SERIES 2009

redskinslick 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

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[quote=RMSkins;511585]Is that Fire Jim Zorn site still up?[/quote]

Give the rookie some time.

47FAN 12-14-2008 04:15 PM

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zorn is not a head coach............

horse 12-14-2008 04:16 PM

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[quote=Bushead;511595]He's a rookie head coach!? I don't get anyone on this site. Remember when we changed coaches every 2 years? Remember when we went out and had big splashes YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. Remember constantly cutting those people we got so hyped about only a year afterwards?

Its one season. It started out great, then the schedule got extremely tough. Now injuries and wear and tear is starting to show because the lack of depth at certain positions.

So lets have Jason Campbell learn another play book this offseason and all the W Receivers?[/quote]

I see your point, But Zorn has clearly lost the team. Maybe we need to get rid of some players, But someone needs to go!

QueensRedskinsFan 12-14-2008 04:17 PM

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[quote=RFKRat;511604]Why is anyone really suprised at this? They also lost to the Rams. Barely beat Cleveland and Seattle.

I think as much as the coaches need to be blamed, the players themselves should be just as much blamed. What a bunch of whiny, lazy bums. They're a disgrace to themselves, the fans, their families, the city and the logo on the helmet. The whole lot of them.

What a laughingstock.[/quote]

You're right...the Redskins are a complete joke...They just aren't a good football team

SFREDSKIN 12-14-2008 04:17 PM

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[quote=bjschmonsees;511599]Does the Danny stick with Zorny or is Cowher introduced as the next Redskin head coach in mid-january?[/quote]

Has to stick with Zorn. If he fires him what makes people think that Cowher wants to coach a team where the owner fires coaches left and right. We need stability and Zorn needs one more year, if he screws up his second year, then fire him.

ST21RIP 12-14-2008 04:17 PM

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[quote=redskinslick;511608]Give the rookie some time.[/quote]

No; i wont.

skinsfan69 12-14-2008 04:17 PM

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[quote=bjschmonsees;511599]Does the Danny stick with Zorny or is Cowher introduced as the next Redskin head coach in mid-january?[/quote]

As bad as Zorn's dink and dunk bullshit offense has been I hope Cowher doesn't come here. Does this guy have some special magic wan of something??

bjschmonsees 12-14-2008 04:17 PM

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How is it possible that at 6-2 I was Horny for Zorny and now I'm Power for Cowher?

Hail to the Redskins 12-14-2008 04:18 PM

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[quote=Bushead;511595]He's a rookie head coach!? I don't get anyone on this site. Remember when we changed coaches every 2 years? Remember when we went out and had big splashes YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. Remember constantly cutting those people we got so hyped about only a year afterwards?

Its one season. It started out great, then the schedule got extremely tough. Now injuries and wear and tear is starting to show because the lack of depth at certain positions.

So lets have Jason Campbell learn another play book this offseason and all the W Receivers?[/quote]


First of all.. no one should mention strength of schedule when your team loses to the Rams AND the Bengals, while BARELY beating the Lions, Seahawks and Browns...

Horrible coaching ALL around offensively ... WR coach - horrible .. Zorn as O-Coord. - Horrible ... Running has been ALL Clinton this year, just look at the other back yards per...

I'm sorry, but Zorn isn't going to be a good coach for a while, and we don't have that time with the age of the talent involved... he'd be good as a QB coach obviously, but not O-Coord or HC!!

Bushead 12-14-2008 04:18 PM

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[quote=ST21RIP;511605]ATL and B MORE both have rookie coaches. oh yeah, and they both have rookie qbs? How they looking. Stop making excuses for zorn. he not an NFL head coach. he coached in seattle for 10 years and he wasn't even going to holmgren's successor. that will be mora jr.[/quote]

Well Gibbs Coached this team for 4 years in his Second Stint and he didn't go to the superbowl. Do you know how many coaches accomplished that? Don't make excuses for Joe Gibbs. He had 4 years and he wasn't able to do what others were able to do.

The team has multiple problems. To blame it on only Jim Zorn or Campbell is unfair. Each year you have people that do well and exceed expectiations. HELL! Spurrier got 2 years and his game plans and techniques were way worse than this.

47FAN 12-14-2008 04:19 PM

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WE LOST TO THE BANGELS (along with other games we should have won) MAN COME ON ZORN CAN NOT CALL A GAME HE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO BEING A QB COACH..............

bjschmonsees 12-14-2008 04:19 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;511614]As bad as Zorn's dink and dunk bullshit offense has been I hope Cowher doesn't come here. Does this guy have some special magic wan of something??[/quote]

Cowher will make players tremble in their gold boots...

Something that Gibbs (I love Gibbs) and Zorn could never do...

Chief X_Phackter 12-14-2008 04:19 PM

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It's hard to put it all on Zorn when players are showing off after TDs, not making smart decisions with the football in the red zone, running routes shorter than the 1st down marker, committing stupid penalties...

At some point the players have to be accountable too.

Right now this team reminds me of a "in it for the beer" softball team or something. I don't see any frustration on the sidelines, or any surprised faces for that matter. About the only players I saw some emotion from was London Fletcher, and Rock Cartwright.

MarkinSMd 12-14-2008 04:20 PM

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The first three series of this game started with extremely vanilla, first down runs by Clinton Portis. (Amazingly, the Bengals were not taken by surprise). In fact, it was so ridiculous, that I was able to predict every play in those first three series with the exception of the end around. Here’s my point … If I can predict Zorn’s play calls, I’m sure coaches around the NFL can … even the Bengals.
We are pretty good at protecting the ball … THREE DOWNS AT A TIME. It’s not hard to protect it if you don’t do anything with it. I know that it’s legal to throw on first down; I see other teams do it fairly effectively. I’m also sure that it’s legal to throw unrestricted distances … Who knows, it might even generate some intensity and excitement on the field.
Would someone please remind Mr. (barely worthy to call coach) Zorn that he used to be a quarterback who threw the ball with some regularity … and it’s not just an option on third and long (which we find ourselves in way too often). We run when it’s obvious and we pass when it’s obvious …. It almost makes me throw up. My gosh … it’s the Bengals … … … The BENGALS !!

ST21RIP 12-14-2008 04:20 PM

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he is not a head coach. it's too much for him. why do you think that in his 10 years with seattle he was never promoted to coordinator?

Ijaeger 12-14-2008 04:20 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;511614]As bad as Zorn's dink and dunk bullshit offense has been I hope Cowher doesn't come here. Does this guy have some special magic wan of something??[/quote]

not w/o Dick Labeau

skinsfan69 12-14-2008 04:21 PM

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What pisses me off the most is when we constantly throw passes short of the 1st down markers. It just getting old. We must be last in the NFL in plays of 25 yards or more and we probably lead the NFL in passes under 10 yards.

Bushead 12-14-2008 04:21 PM

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[quote=horse;511610]I see your point, But Zorn has clearly lost the team. Maybe we need to get rid of some players, But someone needs to go![/quote]

I think it's more of a players thing. Zorn doesn't have his type of players to runt he WCO. Like someone said earlier: we don't have any tall receivers really. We don't have that 6'4 guy to throw the post to. The offensive line is not built for WCO. The Defensive line never gets any pressure and is not that good against the run.

I think after another off season he'll be able to add some talent and move some things around to suit what he wants to do on offense better. Defense has a great secondary and a little bit of pressure up front would cure alot of their break downs.

SFREDSKIN 12-14-2008 04:21 PM

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Bite the bullet and clean house and rebuild, it's way overdue.

QueensRedskinsFan 12-14-2008 04:21 PM

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The players have 0 respect for Zorn
Portis is the best player in a Skins uniform and even he called him out
Dink and Dunk, throwing Cooley screen passes on 3rd downs? Come on
Go back to Seattle where I guess you're a legend but you have no place running an NFL football team...
NEW YORK METS BASEBALL 2009

IowaSkinsFan 12-14-2008 04:21 PM

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The blame lies squarely with the owner and the Pres of operations, Snyder and Cerrato. They pick the players and the HC. This is what we are destined for until Snyder is no longer the owner.

bjschmonsees 12-14-2008 04:22 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;511620]It's hard to put it all on Zorn when players are showing off after TDs, not making smart decisions with the football in the red zone, running routes shorter than the 1st down marker, committing stupid penalties...[/quote]

Cowher and his 4 inch thick chin would end all that bullshit...

Bigreds77 12-14-2008 04:22 PM

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[quote=bjschmonsees;511619]Cowher will make players tremble in their gold boots...

Something that Gibbs (I love Gibbs) and Zorn could never do...[/quote] I live close to Pittsburgh & i am anti- Steelers. I would hate to see that cry baby Cowher in Washington....................

DGreene28 12-14-2008 04:23 PM

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I don't know if Zorn has "it"... only time will tell. It's not an easy thing to lead an NFL football team. There are obviously only a few who have been really successful. This team has looked unprepared to play far too many times this season. Practically the same team that finished the season strong to make the playoffs the last 2 seasons.

Zorn seems unsure in some of his his decisions... at times the last few years Gibbs handled players far better, with Zorn it seems his ego has gotten in the way in a few instances. I'd like to hear what someone like joe Bugel has to say behind closed doors.

skinsfan69 12-14-2008 04:23 PM

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[quote=bjschmonsees;511619]Cowher will make players tremble in their gold boots...

Something that Gibbs (I love Gibbs) and Zorn could never do...[/quote]

So is Cowher going to make Cooley, Sellers and CP hold on to the ball? Some of our best guys have let us down the last few weeks.

12thMan 12-14-2008 04:23 PM

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Something just aint right. Clinton is leading the lead in rushing through 12 games, Jason is looking like a Pro-Bowler for the first 10 or 11 games and the wheels fall completely off. Something just isn't right. They started out 6-2 for crying out loud. I'm speechless.

tryfuhl 12-14-2008 04:23 PM

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[quote=horse;511598]75 yrds of penalties, All the dropped picks and ofcourse the fumble, You know we really screwed ourselves this game.[/quote]
fumbleS

redskinslick 12-14-2008 04:24 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;511626]Bite the bullet and clean house and rebuild, it's way overdue.[/quote]

I'm just tired of changing systems.

Redskin Warrior 12-14-2008 04:24 PM

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I took offense to McNabb's statement that he knew the Redskins were not better than the Eagles now I look at the statement and I say he was damn right and I gotta see him next week.

RMSkins 12-14-2008 04:24 PM

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[quote=IowaSkinsFan;511628]The blame lies squarely with the owner and the Pres of operations, Snyder and Cerrato. They pick the players and the HC. This is what we are destined for until Snyder is no longer the owner.[/quote]
Snyder is going to be the owner until he dies, so don't get your hopes up.

SFREDSKIN 12-14-2008 04:24 PM

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If Zorn gets fired, Cam Cameron would be my one and only choice.


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