Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;547523]Then, in his column today, Peter King indicated that the Browns are just as in love with Sanchez as Snyder. I also read a report today (can't remember where) that said the Skins have a tentative deal in place with Browns for a trade if Sanchez falls to Cleavlands spot. Given that Cleavland (evidently) prefers Sanchez and Anderson to Quinn (why are they even looking at Sanchez when they have those two?), it made sense to me that we would be trading for QUINN, after Cleavland selected Sanchez. So, I think its entirely possible that a senario similar to this could happen:

Brady Quinn and Braylon Edwards to Washington for our #13 and Fred Davis (and probably another player)

This would also explain why:
1. The Browns are looking at QBs when they just drafted one in the 1st round. (New coach wants to pick his own guy)
2. There were rumors of Cooley being traded to Cleveland (right position, wrong player)
3. The Browns have yet to trade Edwards. (Our deals better)

In the end, the Browns would get rid of two players they dont really want while picking up a 1st rounder and a starter, and we'd get the "franchise" QB and "stud" WR covetted by Snyder for so long, while only giving up our 2009 1st rounder and a starting caliber TE who is stuck behind a pro-bowler. We'd probably have to give up something else (possibly Santana Moss, ARE, or D. Thomas), but in the end, both sides would get what they covet, without having to give up anything they really wanted.

Again, thats all pure speculation, but its just a possibility that occurred to me after reading Kings article today.[/quote]I wouldn't mind this scenario, however we'll be giving up more than our # 1 and Davis to make it happen. Currently the market for Edwards is a #1 & #3-#4 pick. Quinn was #21 (or therabout). So in your scenario, we'd wind up with a either Edwards or Quinn, not both.

I'm a big ND fan, but am definitely not a fan of giving up our # 1 this year for Quinn or using it on Sanchez. These are unproven commodities when we have at worst a decent QB. IMO, JC is on the cusp of being very good.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;547534]I have no idea how Sanchez has "it" while Quinn and Campbell don't. Seems like an easy way to draw a line between the two with no other good reason to do so.

I agree that Quinn and Campbell are very similar in most respects. One of those respects is that they seem to be stronger players than Sanchez, based at least on the law of averages.[/quote]

GT just curious whether u think JC will get a chance to start elsewhere after Snyder finds a way to dump him?

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

Just a couple of tidbits I heard on ESPN today:

First for all those enamored with Sanchez: On Cowherd's show (while a Skins bashing a-hole, he does from time-to-time make a good point or two). Paraphrased "Of QBs taken with picks in the top 12 overall in the last 8 years (I believe), there were a total of 18, 11 are generally considered busts, 2 the jury's still out, and 5 are hits." So on the high end 38% and on the low end 27.7% are the chances that Sanchez will be the "QB of the future" for the Skins. Are you JC basher/Sanchez/Quinn lovers willing to risk at a minimum two 1 round picks and a 4th, on what is a sub-38% chance of success.

Second, Mike Torico (sp?) mentioned that he doesn't even talk with NFL people at this time of year because all you get is misinformation and I believe he used the phrase "a bunch of smoke".

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[quote=skinfan007;547512]you have lost your mind does any body realize that for the last 5 years we have needed a dominating pass rush to contend for the playoffs. We need to either draft a top notch pass rusher or strong side linebacker in first round or an immediate playmaker like a percy harvin. 2nd round we need a complimentary running back for clinton portis if you notice our division is full of two headed monsters in the backfield. We also should have grabbed a torry holt or a ol like peters in free agency . I think we also should bench campbell in favor of brennan[/quote]WOW???? You must be either a Gator fan or live down here in the Hampton Roads area to be on Percy Harvin. What's Harvin going to do when he's in the NFL and the DBs are just as fast as he is? Don't get me wrong he should be a solid NFL utility player at WR/KR, but he's a little bigger Ted Ginn Jr. with less polish as a WR. Going to be hard to get a RB in the 2nd round if we take Harvin with the 1st since we don't have a 2nd rounder this year.

Brennan :frusty: We've already :bdh:

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;547525]I hear what your saying, and those would be the positives to look at in a "worst case scenario" situation but the thought of starting over from scratch next year makes me sick. [B]I mean, whens the last time this team has benefited from starting over from scratch?[/B][/quote]

BHA, I don't think anyone likes starting from scratch, but there are teams that have benefited from this (Atlanta, Miami, heck even Baltimore had a down year or two, and were able to pick up good players through the draft and get back to being contenders). Honestly, I don't know when was the last time that our team started from scratch. But this half-rebuilding/half-reloading doesn't convince me (rebuilding= getting a new young QB in Sanchez or Quinn; reloading = signing Hall, Haynesworth, and Dockery).

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;547565]Just a couple of tidbits I heard on ESPN today:

First for all those enamored with Sanchez: On Cowherd's show (while a Skins bashing a-hole, he does from time-to-time make a good point or two). Paraphrased "Of QBs taken with picks in the top 12 overall in the last 8 years (I believe), there were a total of 18, 11 are generally considered busts, 2 the jury's still out, and 5 are hits." So on the high end 38% and on the low end 27.7% are the chances that Sanchez will be the "QB of the future" for the Skins. Are you JC basher/Sanchez/Quinn lovers willing to risk at a minimum two 1 round picks and a 4th, on what is a sub-38% chance of success.

[B]Second, Mike Torico (sp?) mentioned that he doesn't even talk with NFL people at this time of year because all you get is misinformation and I believe he used the phrase "a bunch of smoke".[/B][/quote]

Yes. Today I read one article which said we were moving up to draft Sanchez and the very next article I read said the Skins-Sanchez thing was all smoke. One article said the Browns would take Sanchez, the next one said that the Browns didn't want Sanchez and desperately wanted to trade down.

The point: I'm not going to believe ANYTHING this week until I see picks with my own eyes on Saturday afternoon.

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[quote=Lotus;547620]Yes. Today I read one article which said we were moving up to draft Sanchez and the very next article I read said the Skins-Sanchez thing was all smoke. One article said the Browns would take Sanchez, the next one said that the Browns didn't want Sanchez and desperately wanted to trade down.

The point: I'm not going to believe ANYTHING this week until I see picks with my own eyes on Saturday afternoon.[/quote]

I like to think I have a bit more access to the inner machinations of NFL teams than many...but come this time of year, none of us has any idea. This is definitely the most confused about the Redskins' thoughts as I've been in a long time (and they're generally very confusing). What's most interesting in all of this it that seems that the one guy (the one key guy that is) that doesn't seem to enamored with Sanchez either by trading up or taking him at 13 is Cerrato.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;547623]I like to think I have a bit more access to the inner machinations of NFL teams than many...but come this time of year, none of us has any idea. This is definitely the most confused about the Redskins' thoughts as I've been in a long time (and they're generally very confusing). [B]What's most interesting in all of this it that seems that the one guy (the one key guy that is) that doesn't seem to enamored with Sanchez either by trading up or taking him at 13 is Cerrato.[/B][/quote]

Well, like the previous Dan Snyder tantrum (trading for Cutler), I hope that this ends up not happening. I hope that VC is just putting up with DS' Sanchez tantrum, and sets it up where he comes to DS and tells him that it wasn't possible to get Sanchez (and draft Oher instead!).

Well, more and more I'm thinking that this Sanchez deal is a smoke screen to get a lower pick team to trade with us. If getting Sanchez had any remote possibility, Mike Florio would be blasting it all over PFT.com like he did with the Cutler situation.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Ruhskins;547625]Well, like the previous Dan Snyder tantrum (trading for Cutler), I hope that this ends up not happening. I hope that VC is just putting up with DS' Sanchez tantrum, and sets it up where he comes to DS and tells him that it wasn't possible to get Sanchez (and draft Oher instead!).

Well, more and more I'm thinking that this Sanchez deal is a smoke screen to get a lower pick team to trade with us. If getting Sanchez had any remote possibility, Mike Florio would be blasting it all over PFT.com like he did with the Cutler situation.[/quote]

I think Sanchez is possible, I just don't think we're likely to be able to trade up to get him (if we had our 2nd round pick still, that might have been the case).

I think ultimately is less about Sanchez and more about Campbell. If he's not the guy in 2010 and beyond, and Colt isn't the guy until 2011 at the earliest then what do we do?

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;547623]I like to think I have a bit more access to the inner machinations of NFL teams than many...but come this time of year, none of us has any idea. This is definitely the most confused about the Redskins' thoughts as I've been in a long time (and they're generally very confusing). What's most interesting in all of this it that seems that [B]the one guy (the one key guy that is) that doesn't seem to enamored with Sanchez either by trading up or taking him at 13 is Cerrato.[/B][/quote]

Yay!

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;547631]I think Sanchez is possible, I just don't think we're likely to be able to trade up to get him (if we had our 2nd round pick still, that might have been the case).

I think ultimately is less about Sanchez and more about Campbell. If he's not the guy in 2010 and beyond, and Colt isn't the guy until 2011 at the earliest then what do we do?[/quote]
When he gets released from Seattle this offseason, Hasselbeck will be our stop-gap until Colt is ready to take the reigns (pun intended). :smashfrea

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;547634]When he gets released from Seattle this offseason, Hasselbeck will be our stop-gap until Colt is ready to take the reigns (pun intended). :smashfrea[/quote]

I was resisting the urge to say that :)

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

Why is it that Collins is never mentioned? I mean it's not like they're paying the man peanuts.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;547623]I like to think I have a bit more access to the inner machinations of NFL teams than many...but come this time of year, none of us has any idea. This is definitely the most confused about the Redskins' thoughts as I've been in a long time (and they're generally very confusing). What's most interesting in all of this it that seems that the one guy (the one key guy that is) that doesn't seem to enamored with Sanchez either by trading up or taking him at 13 is Cerrato.[/quote]

The most interesting place to be right now would be in the scouting rooms around the NFL, and specifically the conversations between DS, VC, and JZ. They always say that going in they come to a overriding agreement on what the game plan is, and if I understand it, VC pulls the trigger on draft day. This week would surely be interesting to hear the confidential conversations.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;547636]Why is it that Collins is never mentioned? I mean it's not like they're paying the man peanuts.[/quote]

Because he's a 38 year old career backup who was effective (and not exactly prolific-but effective) in a system that he was brought in to run and we don't run anymore. The only reason he's still on the team is because he had that playoff run. Any other offseason he'd be out looking for work and not finding much success in securing it.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Paintrain;547641]Because he's a 38 year old career backup who was effective (and not exactly prolific-but effective) in a system that he was brought in to run and we don't run anymore. The only reason he's still on the team is because he had that playoff run. Any other offseason he'd be out looking for work and not finding much success in securing it.[/quote]

Soups not playing in a system he was brought in either. Kurt Warner has put the age thing to rest. He sure does make a lot of money for someone that should be looking for a job.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;547523]Lol, i suppose I deserve that, but seriously - I firmly beleive Campbell will be noticably better in 2009 than he was in 2008... I just don't beleive its likely his play will be enough of an improvement for [U]Snyder[/U] to keep Campbell - Hence all my arguments about moving on now: 1) To get compensation for Campbell; 2) to go ahead and start grooming our next (hopefully) franchise QB.[/quote]

Fair point, if you're going to move in another direction, why not move now? I just don't understand why they feel the need to move on from Campbell. I like Sanchez (much more than Stafford) but is he that much of an improvement over Campbell? Heck, why not just trade for Leinart?

[quote]I like Zorn and I like Campbell - I just dont like them [U]together[/U]. While its possible both Zorn and Campbell have success in 2009 and beyond, i dont think its likely. If you asked me to chose between the two now, i'd chose Zorn, if for no other reason than that if we fired him after 2009 and kept Campbell, Campbell would have to learn [I]another[/I] offense and start from scratch again.[/quote]

My mind must be playing tricks on me. I thought you were anti-Zorn (regardless of Campbell). And if it's Gruden or Shanahan (or even Holmgren) next year than Campbell would likely not have to learn a new system. And if it's Cowher then he would conceivably be in that drop-back system that many (yourself included I believe) think he is best suited for.

[quote]We've kept the same defensive scheme in place 5 years and, with one exception, our defense has been very good for those 5 years. The way i see it, we committed to the WCO and we need to keep it here a minimum of 5 years. Lets keep the system in place and gradually adjust our personnel to suit that system over the course of that timeframe.[/quote]

Constantly changing systems is not good on any level.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=GMScud;547509]I hope that Peter King's source is correct about Snyder being unwilling to move next year's 1st.

Ultimately I don't think this will end up happening for a few reasons:

There's a very good chance our offense will be significantly better in year 2 for Campbell, Zorn, and a handful of young ball-catchers. [B]Plus the O-line will be in better shape. Snyder knows this. [/B]It's not like sticking with the current QB situation is a big roll of the dice. It's safe and prudent, and allows us to fix other holes and maintain continuity and growth with a solid QB and system.

Snyder should not go after Sanchez by shipping off multiple picks and/or players and stick with Campbell instead because regardless of the outcome of Zorn/Campbell in '09, Snyder benefits. We all know as Campbell goes, so does Zorn, and vice versa. If they flop this season, Snyder can dump them both, and will have an opportunity at the outstanding 2010 QB draft class. Not to mention the head coaches that'll be available - Holmgren, Cowher, Gruden, Shanahan, Billick, etc. He would be giddy about the splash he could make.

And if Zorn and Campbell take a big step forward, Snyder looks great for being patient and allowing continuity to play it's course.[/quote]

You sure about that? The offensive line has been on shaky ground for a couple of years now. Every year the front office ignores the offensive line the closer we are to absolute Armageddon up front. Snyder [I]thinks[/I] the O-line will be in better shape, that's why he's willing to enter the Sanchez Sweepstakes.

You're right though, I don't think it'll happen anyway. Sanchez could be gone by pick #2. And Seattle might not want to pass him up at #4. You're also correct that this is Go Time for Zorn and Campbell. If they don't light it up and make a deep run into the playoffs, that will be the perfect opportunity for Snyder to wash his hands of the both of them.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;547634]When he gets released from Seattle this offseason, Hasselbeck will be our stop-gap until Colt is ready to take the reigns (pun intended). :smashfrea[/quote]

I'd be shocked if Hasslebak got released...but I wouldn't be mad if this scenario happened!

As long as we got trade value for JC...2nd round pick anyone?

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;547645]Soups not playing in a system he was brought in either. Kurt Warner has put the age thing to rest. He sure does make a lot of money for someone that should be looking for a job.[/quote]

Todd Collins is in no way Kurt Warner period.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;547631]I think Sanchez is possible, I just don't think we're likely to be able to trade up to get him (if we had our 2nd round pick still, that might have been the case).

I think ultimately is less about Sanchez and more about Campbell. If he's not the guy in 2010 and beyond, and Colt isn't the guy until 2011 at the earliest then what do we do?[/quote]Given that Snyder can't go 15 minutes without grabbing the attention of the entire NFL universe, I have to say that what our plans should conditionally be in 2010 probably isn't high up on the Redskins' priority list.

Cerrato just isn't a big trade up guy anyhow. Snyder seems to be less worried about winning this time of year than he is about finding the youngest, most marketable athlete at any position. Unfortunately for Cerrato, his NFL legacy is going to be defined by the actions we do/do not take within the next week or so, so if he's ever going to stand up for what he believes is the best way to build the Redskins, now would be a pretty good time.

Snyder is all about winning when it comes to August, but the NFL is a 12-month sport now more than ever, and our intentions now seem to be counterproductive to our desires for the upcoming season.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;547652]Fair point, if you're going to move in another direction, why not move now? I just don't understand why they feel the need to move on from Campbell. I like Sanchez (much more than Stafford) but is he that much of an improvement over Campbell? Heck, why not just trade for Leinart?[/quote]Disqualified because he throws with the same hand as Brunell.

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[quote=RedskinMike;547684]Todd Collins is in no way Kurt Warner period.[/quote]

How many play-offs has Soup, Colt, or Sanchez taken us to? Our offensive line isn't anything like Arizona's either.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;547717]How many play-offs has Soup, Colt, or Sanchez taken us to? Our offensive line isn't anything like Arizona's either.[/quote]Well, technically, we won 9 games in 2007 to make the playoffs, and Campbell started 6 of those. While win percentage tells another tale, I say: Small Sample Size.

Old guys can compete at the QB position, but usually only if they were pretty great in their younger days. There's not much demand or value for guys who have breakout months at age-36.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;547720]Well, technically, we won 9 games in 2007 to make the playoffs, and Campbell started 6 of those. While win percentage tells another tale, I say: Small Sample Size.

Old guys can compete at the QB position, but usually only if they were pretty great in their younger days. There's not much demand or value for guys who have breakout months at age-36.[/quote]

Who won the games against New York, The Vikings, and the Cowboys? That got us to the play-offs. I'm just saying no one ever talks about a guy who has beaten the Giants with everything on the line. We didn't beat them last year and they're the cream of the NFC East right now.
I know he's not the future of the franchise but damn, why such an outpouring for guys who've never won a game for us, Colt or Sanchez?

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;547724]Who won the games against New York, The Vikings, and the Cowboys? That got us to the play-offs. I'm just saying no one ever talks about a guy who has beaten the Giants with everything on the line. We didn't beat them last year and they're the cream of the NFC East right now.
I know he's not the future of the franchise but damn, why such an outpouring for guys who've never won a game for us, Colt or Sanchez?[/quote]
Because Collins isn't the sexy draft pick brought in to carry the franchise on his back to the promised land....

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;547704]Given that Snyder can't go 15 minutes without grabbing the attention of the entire NFL universe, I have to say that what our plans should conditionally be in 2010 probably isn't high up on the Redskins' priority list.

Cerrato just isn't a big trade up guy anyhow. Snyder seems to be less worried about winning this time of year than he is about finding the youngest, most marketable athlete at any position. Unfortunately for Cerrato, his NFL legacy is going to be defined by the actions we do/do not take within the next week or so, so if he's ever going to stand up for what he believes is the best way to build the Redskins, now would be a pretty good time.

Snyder is all about winning when it comes to August, but the NFL is a 12-month sport now more than ever, and our intentions now seem to be counterproductive to our desires for the upcoming season.[/quote]

What if the Seahawks offered the 4th and their 2nd for the #13 and Campbell? Would you do it?

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Beemnseven;547657][B]You sure about that? The offensive line has been on shaky ground for a couple of years now. Every year the front office ignores the offensive line the closer we are to absolute Armageddon up front. Snyder [I]thinks[/I] the O-line will be in better shape, that's why he's willing to enter the Sanchez Sweepstakes.[/B]

You're right though, I don't think it'll happen anyway. Sanchez could be gone by pick #2. And Seattle might not want to pass him up at #4. You're also correct that this is Go Time for Zorn and Campbell. If they don't light it up and make a deep run into the playoffs, that will be the perfect opportunity for Snyder to wash his hands of the both of them.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm definitely sure the O-line will be in better shape. Heyer is one more year along in his development. Randy Thomas is healthy and not in grave danger of being paralyzed now that he's had his neck surgery. Samuels should be 100% to start the year, and Dockery is a big addition. I fully expect us to add at least 1 more lineman in the draft, plus there's more FA time left. I think before the 2009 season gets underway, we'll be better along the O-line than in 2008.

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[quote=SmootSmack;547731]What if the Seahawks offered the 4th and their 2nd for the #13 and Campbell? Would you do it?[/quote]

I think that they'd want a bit more from us.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;547731]What if the Seahawks offered the 4th and their 2nd for the #13 and Campbell? Would you do it?[/quote]Nope.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;547775]Nope.[/quote]

What if they throw in Paul Allen?

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[quote=SmootSmack;547779]What if they throw in Paul Allen?[/quote]Only if he comes with a 45% share of Microsoft.

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[quote=SmootSmack;547731]What if the Seahawks offered the 4th and their 2nd for the #13 and Campbell? Would you do it?[/quote]

No. I really think Campbell will be a good QB in this league and don't think we should give up on him. I can see it now, the Boy King and his minion run JC out of town and he does what everyone said he couldn't and makes us look like fools. Give the guy a frickin chance.
If we did the trade, we have to draft one of the two QB'S given that either or one falls and I don't think either will be as productive as JC this year. If we had a guy like Aaron Rodgers in the wings, this would be an easier decision but we don't. Sorry Colt Cult, he isn't ready and wont be any time soon.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

Looks like Darth Hoody Jr. is looking at Mark Sanchez...

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/20/broncos-will-workout-qb-sanchez-in-los-angeles/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Broncos will workout QB Sanchez in Los Angeles «[/url]

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

This is from WalterFootball.com, discussing a scenario where we trade up to 8 for Sanchez. I tend to see it this way:

Redskins Trade Up for Mark Sanchez: Daniel Snyder is a smart businessman, but he's proven that he has absolutely no clue when it comes to football decisions. Though he traded up for Jason Campbell and never provided the Auburn product with a consistent playbook, Snyder now wants Mark Sanchez to be the face of his franchise. Snyder tried to trade Campbell this offseason, and he has the money to pay Sanchez top-10, or even top-five money.

The difference between the Nos. 8 and 13 selections is 250 points. The Redskins have the 80th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, which is worth 190 points, so they'd have to give up more. Not that doing so means much to Snyder; I suspect he'd be happy enough to relinquish next year's third-rounder as well.

As a football decision this makes no sense; by the time Sanchez is ready to take over as the starter, Chris Samuels, Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Albert Haynesworth and Andre Carter will be past their primes. But how common is it that Snyder makes an intelligent football decision?

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great post GOAT...that's real talk..

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;547724]Who won the games against New York, The Vikings, and the Cowboys? That got us to the play-offs. I'm just saying no one ever talks about a guy who has beaten the Giants with everything on the line. We didn't beat them last year and they're the cream of the NFC East right now.
I know he's not the future of the franchise but damn, why such an outpouring for guys who've never won a game for us, Colt or Sanchez?[/quote]

Are you related to him or something? Seriously, I've heard compelling arguments for Cutler and Sanchez, but Colt and Collins have no legitimate claims to any opportunity to start for this (or any) team at this point. You are quite alone on that island.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=The Goat;547802]This is from WalterFootball.com, discussing a scenario where we trade up to 8 for Sanchez. I tend to see it this way:

Redskins Trade Up for Mark Sanchez: Daniel Snyder is a smart businessman, but he's proven that he has absolutely no clue when it comes to football decisions. Though he traded up for Jason Campbell and never provided the Auburn product with a consistent playbook, Snyder now wants Mark Sanchez to be the face of his franchise. Snyder tried to trade Campbell this offseason, and he has the money to pay Sanchez top-10, or even top-five money.

The difference between the Nos. 8 and 13 selections is 250 points. The Redskins have the 80th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, which is worth 190 points, so they'd have to give up more. Not that doing so means much to Snyder; I suspect he'd be happy enough to relinquish next year's third-rounder as well.

As a football decision this makes no sense; by the time Sanchez is ready to take over as the starter, Chris Samuels, Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Albert Haynesworth and Andre Carter will be past their primes. But how common is it that Snyder makes an intelligent football decision?[/quote]

Noooooooo.....I can't listen to this speculation any more! Thank you for the story, Goat, but it is like Chinese water torture - drip, drip drip...

Personally I am adopting the position that the Sanchez talk is a smokescreen and am going into denial until Saturday.

Re: Mark Sanchez at 13th?
 

[quote=Paintrain;547807]Are you related to him or something? Seriously, I've heard compelling arguments for Cutler and Sanchez, but Colt and Collins have no legitimate claims to any opportunity to start for this (or any) team at this point. You are quite alone on that island.[/quote]

Speaking of the devil the Cult of Colt really needs to stop embarrassing us on these mailbags (from [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=4082772"]Clayton's mailbag[/URL])...

[quote]Q: I can't figure out why the Redskins are in the middle of all these quarterback talks. Now there is talk of them looking at Sanchez. I know that when people think of the QB situation in Washington, they come up with Jason Campbell and Todd Collins, but [B]Colt Brennan is the future of this team. That's right, I said it.[/B]

Mike in Hannibal, Mo.[/quote]

:doh:

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[quote=Lotus;547809]Noooooooo.....I can't listen to this speculation any more! Thank you for the story, Goat, but it is like Chinese water torture - drip, drip drip...

Personally I am adopting the position that the Sanchez talk is a smokescreen and am going into denial until Saturday.[/quote]

Word...and to think we've got 5 more days of this. If this is a smokescreen to get us players we actually need who can actually start I'll sing the praises of the FO until ya'll get sick of me.