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I blame myself for contributing to steering this thread off course but let's keep the oil spill discussion to the oil spill thread

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[quote=firstdown;703322][url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100525/pl_nm/us_oil_rig_obama_trip]Obama to visit Gulf Friday to check on oil spill - Yahoo! News[/url]

He is going to see the spill again and now he is using tough talk.

"Plug the damn hole,"

I heard he gave credit to his wife for that quote.[/quote]

Plug it, Plug it!!!! Stop trying to sipon off oil.

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[quote=SmootSmack;703321]I wonder how strictly enforced was that Immigration Act on a per country quote basis[/quote]

From what I have read on immigration illegals were not a hugh concern as it is today. Back then we needed labor and we did not have a bunch of social programs that they could drain. If they did not work then they did not eat.

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[quote=firstdown;703322][URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100525/pl_nm/us_oil_rig_obama_trip"]Obama to visit Gulf Friday to check on oil spill - Yahoo! News[/URL]

He is going to see the spill again and now he is using tough talk.

[B]"Plug the damn hole,"[/B]

I heard he gave credit to his wife for that quote.[/quote]
THAT should do it!

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;703309]Interesting..... After lunch I will start thinking again, right now I am running on coffee fumes.[/quote]


really looking forward to that. how long ago did you stop?

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[quote=Rainy Parade;703352]really looking forward to that. how long ago did you stop?[/quote]

I stop every morning I refuse to think. My uninalienable right.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;703353]I stop every morning I refuse to think. My uninalienable right.[/quote]

This should be your sig

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[quote=SmootSmack;703357]This should be your sig[/quote]

He's gotta do something with that signature. The words "artist" and "squawk" have been misspelled for weeks.

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[quote=SmootSmack;703357]This should be your sig[/quote]

Done.

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[quote=GMScud;703361]He's gotta do something with that signature. The words "artist" and "squawk" have been misspelled for weeks.[/quote]

What? You mean he wasn't talking about Artis Hicks?

Now he can have a newly butchered sig...or he can correct it. Whatever, it's his uninalienable right :)

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[url=http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7472292]L.A. County supervisors join city's AZ boycott | abc7.com[/url] , L.A. County Supervisors join a boycott of Arizona . What a shock , Ca. <L.A> boycotting America , as Arizona is a state in the USA . Maybe Az. should threaten to close all movie theaters and close all video stores that sell/rent movies from Ca.? Doesn't L.A. have enough problems of their own ?

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Arizona mad because the Mexican drug cartels have cut out the middle man. They have too many guns now. No more paying to cross your ranch. I remember up until the recession pounds cost only 200 dollars in Arizona. now all of a sudden we want to change how the border is run. This country has been here for over 200 years and only now we are crying about the border. Complainging about Mexicans in Arizona is like complaing about hawaiians in Hawaii. The demographic bomb baby bout to explode is set to explode in t-minus 20 years.

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[quote=budw38;704439][URL="http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7472292"]L.A. County supervisors join city's AZ boycott | abc7.com[/URL] , L.A. County Supervisors join a boycott of Arizona . What a shock , Ca. <L.A> boycotting America , as Arizona is a state in the USA . Maybe Az. should threaten to close all movie theaters and close all video stores that sell/rent movies from Ca.? Doesn't L.A. have enough problems of their own ?[/quote]

Boycott what they are broke and have no money to spend in AZ. I guess it makes the ass wipes feel better because they have FU LA so bad they want to try and also FU AZ. This will only come back to bite them because if they have not seen the polls the majority of people support AZ.

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[quote=firstdown;704490]Boycott what they are broke and have no money to spend in AZ. I guess it makes the ass wipes feel better because they have FU LA so bad they want to try and also FU AZ. This will only come back to bite them because if they have not seen the polls the majority of people support AZ.[/quote] Sad , but true . Phoenix , is I believe the Kidnapping capitol of the world . I have some friends and family in Az . the illegals< mostly drug/gangs > have gotten so violent that some are planning on moving back to Va.

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[quote=firstdown;704490]Boycott what they are broke and have no money to spend in AZ. I guess it makes the ass wipes feel better because they have FU LA so bad they want to try and also FU AZ. This will only come back to bite them because if they have not seen the polls the majority of people support AZ.[/quote]

200 dollar pounds baby!!! Arizona the drug entry point of America. It's biting that azz now.

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[quote=budw38;704495]Sad , but true . Phoenix , is I believe the Kidnapping capitol of the world . I have some friends and family in Az . the illegals< mostly drug/gangs > have gotten so violent that some are planning on moving back to Va.[/quote]

I almost shed a tear. Y I never. Move back to VA? You mean the Mexicans are worse than the..........?

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;704496]200 dollar pounds baby!!! Arizona the drug entry point of America. It's biting that azz now.[/quote]

Yeah, most cities and states hate when they run off illegal activity.

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[url=http://world-news.newsvine.com/_question/2010/05/12/4274124-do-you-support-arizonas-tough-new-law-on-illegal-immigration]msnbc.com U.S. & World News - Do you support Arizona's tough new law on illegal immigration?[/url]

A poll on MSNBC's Newsvine. 95% support the new law w/ about 760k votes so far

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[quote=mlmpetert;705200][url=http://world-news.newsvine.com/_question/2010/05/12/4274124-do-you-support-arizonas-tough-new-law-on-illegal-immigration]msnbc.com U.S. & World News - Do you support Arizona's tough new law on illegal immigration?[/url]

A poll on MSNBC's Newsvine. 95% support the new law w/ about 760k votes so far[/quote]

LOL...I just checked if I can vote twice and it turns out I can by simply clearing my cookie cache. If I weren't such a lazy mofo I would write a script that submits a hundred no votes a second for the next 3 days. I wonder if I could muster 100 million no votes in such short period.

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[quote=saden1;705218]LOL...I just checked if I can vote twice and it turns out I can by simply clearing my cookie cache. If I weren't such a lazy mofo I would right a script that submits a hundred no votes a second for the next 3 days. I wonder if I could muster a 100 million no votes in such short period.[/quote]Wouldn't happen, my script's only generated 580K votes so far. :)

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;705220]Wouldn't happen, my script's only generated 580K votes so far. :)[/quote]

You haven't been flagged and your IP address banned yet?

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[quote=saden1;705221]You haven't been flagged and your IP address banned yet?[/quote]my kung fu is very strong :)

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;705227]my kung fu is very strong :)[/quote]

I'd enter the arena but I'm not risking it man....I'd hate to be banned from MSNBC websites. I wouldn't be able to deal with all the pain and suffering it would cause me.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;705227]my kung fu is very strong :)[/quote]
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And the fun continues as the Fed spends millions to sue AZ and forces the state of AZ to spend millions to defend......a law that only enforces existing federal immigration law ?????

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/06/justice-department-file-suit-arizona-early-tuesday/]FOXNews.com - Justice Department Files Suit Against Arizona Immigration Law[/url]

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[url=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/13/police-illegal-immigrants-rape-year-old-texas-girl-july-th-party/?test=latestnews]FOXNews.com - Police: Illegal Immigrants Raped 14-Year-Old Texas Girl at July 4th Party[/url]

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[quote=mlmpetert;712209][url=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/13/police-illegal-immigrants-rape-year-old-texas-girl-july-th-party/?test=latestnews]FOXNews.com - Police: Illegal Immigrants Raped 14-Year-Old Texas Girl at July 4th Party[/url][/quote]

You beat me to it. Here's one back at ya!

[url=http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/mexican-drug-cartel-solders-shot-in-arizona-desert-los-zetas-officer-says-shoot-to-kill-americans-in-retaliation/]Mexican Drug Cartel soldiers shot in Arizona desert: Los Zetas officer says shoot to kill Americans in retaliation « The PPJ Gazette[/url]

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ddamn every other ethnicity yalls enemy if it's everbody it's probably you

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100715/ap_on_re_us/us_immigration_states]Brief for 9 states backs Arizona immigration law - Yahoo! News[/url]

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;712221]ddamn every other ethnicity yalls enemy if it's everbody it's probably you[/quote]

sadly, I do believe that there is an inherent angst, which often leads to anger, between all ethnic groups. Maybe, as the world "shrinks" and we all begin to realize that we are all equals, the angst will lessen, but the more dominant one ethnic group is, the stronger that division will be. I doubt there is one nation where everyone, regardless of ethnicity, simply gets along.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;712512]sadly, I do believe that there is an inherent angst, which often leads to anger, between all ethnic groups. Maybe, as the world "shrinks" and we all begin to realize that we are all equals, the angst will lessen, but the more dominant one ethnic group is, the stronger that division will be. I doubt there is one nation where everyone, regardless of ethnicity, simply gets along.[/quote]

Nice point and in hundred years or less, races and ethnicities are gonna be soooooo blended we wont be able to tell who is who. This is a great by product of the free market and increasing globalization. With less expensive travel and world communication reaching every corner of the earth faster and faster, this has really sped things up. wonder what the racist will do then...

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[quote=Chico23231;712520]Nice point and in hundred years or less, races and ethnicities are gonna be soooooo blended we wont be able to tell who is who. This is a great by product of the free market and increasing globalization. With less expensive travel and world communication reaching every corner of the earth faster and faster, this has really sped things up. wonder what the racist will do then...[/quote]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Maybe once "blended" people are the majority they will attempt to oppress the non-blended and will be racist towards people of only one race?[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I honestly still dont understand the connection people blindly make between racism and this law. I am a huge civil liberties advocate, possible to the extreme. Anyone who reads the law will know that it doesn’t violate civil liberties. The Justice Department is suing Arizona not based on any civil liberties violation, but because they say the Federal Govt has preempted rights. They have no case for civil liberty violations. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;712221]ddamn every other ethnicity yalls enemy if it's everbody it's probably you[/quote]

non sequitur

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[quote=mlmpetert;712531][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Maybe once "blended" people are the majority they will attempt to oppress the non-blended and will be racist towards people of only one race?[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I honestly still dont understand the connection people blindly make between racism and this law. I am a huge civil liberties advocate, possible to the extreme. Anyone who reads the law will know that it doesn’t violate civil liberties. The Justice Department is suing Arizona not based on any civil liberties violation, but because they say the Federal Govt has preempted rights. They have no case for civil liberty violations. [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

That would be a change in response to you first statement, but I think policies of isolation most likely though. Yeah my statement though just spoke to the comment I quoted, not directly to the state law of Arizona.

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Once you get past the phony left right BS, you'll see the real culprits behind the war on drugs, and understand why the borders are open.

[url=http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/14/megabanks-are-laundering-drug-money-and-getting-away-with-it/]Wall Street Is Laundering Drug Money And Getting Away With It « SpeakEasy[/url]

[url=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html]Banks Financing Mexico Gangs Admitted in Wells Fargo Deal - Bloomberg[/url]

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;712576]Once you get past the phony left right BS, you'll see the real culprits behind the war on drugs, and understand why the borders are open.

[URL="http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/14/megabanks-are-laundering-drug-money-and-getting-away-with-it/"]Wall Street Is Laundering Drug Money And Getting Away With It « SpeakEasy[/URL]

[URL="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html"]Banks Financing Mexico Gangs Admitted in Wells Fargo Deal - Bloomberg[/URL][/quote]

The war on drugs is just a war on people. Screw the left and the right when it comes to the hypothetical war on drugs. No surprise that the higher ups would have a hand in it.

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More news from the drug infested hell hole that is our border. A big thank you to men like John McCain, George Bush, and President Hussein and their gang-bankster masters.

[url=http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Authorities-seeking-wounded-Pinal-deputy-92556204.html]Pinal County deputy shot near Casa Grande; 3 questioned | Phoenix News | Arizona News | azfamily.com | Phoenix News[/url]

[url=http://abcnews.go.com/US/mexican-drug-cartels-threaten-police-arizona/story?id=10995661]Mexican Drug Cartels Threaten Arizona Police - ABC News[/url]

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[URL="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/20/hispanic-gop-group-announce-support-arizona-immigration-law/"]FOXNews.com - Hispanic GOP Group to Announce Support for Arizona Immigration Law[/URL]

"America is a not a race," Montenegro told Fox News. "The United States of America is [COLOR=black]not the color [/COLOR][COLOR=black]of[/COLOR] your skin, it is the way you think, the way you see life."

On officially becoming a U.S. citizen, Montenegro said, "When you finally reach that day, you understand that being an American is a responsibility, not just an entitlement."

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"Opponents of the Justice Department's lawsuit challenging the enforcement of Arizona's controversial illegal-immigration law have hit upon a strategy to highlight what they contend is a gaping inconsistency in the Justice Department's policy priorities. Why should federal attorneys be targeting the Arizona law as an alleged obstacle to coherent and centralized enforcement of federal immigration statutes, they argue, while Justice officials also have done nothing to challenge the legal status of so-called sanctuary cities, which effectively block enforcement of the same federal law?"


[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl3251]Sanctuary cities become new target in immigration debate - Yahoo! News[/url]

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Judge pretty much blocks the teeth of this law with a partial injunction stopping police from asking about their immigration status. I pretty much knew this judge would take the liberal stand from what I had read about her. I'm sure the left will see this as a victory but I think its just another strike against them come November because most people supported this Arizona bill.

[url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/28/federal-judge-rules-arizona-immigration-law-dispute/]FOXNews.com - Federal Judge Blocks Portions of Arizona Illegal Immigration Law[/url]