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Redskin Insider:

I believe at this point it's a very slim to none chance Kelly makes this team this season. And very slim has already left town. Kellys next.


Malcolm Kelly's chances Saturday: 'very, very slim'

Asked whether Malcolm Kelly will be available for Saturday's game against Baltimore, Coach Mike Shanahan pegged the wide receiver's chances as "very, very slim."

Kelly, hampered by a sore hamstring, was again relegated to sidework at Monday morning's practice, which has been his daily routine since the opening day of training camp July 29. Missing a second preseason game means that Kelly will have a very small window to impress coaches and earn a spot on the 53-man roster. And that window seems to close more with each passing day.

"Obviously, if you can't practice, he can't show me anything," Shanahan said. "But he's doing everything he can with his treatment to get that hamstring better. That's all he can do. What he doesn't want to do is go out there too quick where he sets himself back [to] where he can't even practice the rest of the training camp.

"He's doing everything we ask him to do, and he'll get an opportunity, hopefully, at least in the next week, to come back full speed. I think that would be pretty safe to say, that in a week he should be able to come back."

On Sunday, Shanahan said Kelly might be ready to return to practice by Tuesday. That's no longer the case, though. In fact, Shanahan isn't certain when Kelly will be able to return to team drills.

"After looking at him today, I really don't know," Shanahan said of Kelly's return. "Like I told you, those hamstrings, one day they feel a little better than the other. There's just some tightness. He's still going 50-60 percent. I really don't know at this time."

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And we have some notable movement on that wonderful depth chart.

Posted at 5:07 PM ET, 08/16/2010
Willie Parker moves up the depth chart

There are a couple of interesting changes on the updated depth chart the Redskins released in advance of Saturday night's preseason game against the Baltimore Ravens at FedEx Field.

Veteran running back Willie Parker, listed at the bottom of the first depth chart, moved to third string, ahead of young players Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams, who are tied at fourth string. Parker improved his standing for the game against the Baltimore Ravens despite sitting out the 42-17 victory over the Buffalo Bills because it was not his turn to work with the first-team offense.

Roydell Williams, formerly listed as a co-starter at X receiver, or split end, with Joey Galloway, is now fourth-string. Williams, out of the NFL since the 2008 season while struggling with injuries, is playing on special teams for the first time in an attempt to revive his career.

Despite muffing the opening kickoff return of the season, wideout Devin Thomas remained atop the depth chart at that position. Although Phillip Buchanon still is listed as the No. 1 punt returner, rookie Brandon Banks, who had a 77-yard touchdown against the Buffalo Bills, appears to be making a move for the top spot.

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Receivers prediction, as of today:

[B]Keep[/B] Moss, Galloway, Armstrong, Williams, Thomas, Austin

[B]Release[/B] Kelly, Banks, Hodge, Furrey, Wade

Check back next week when Kelly's health and another Brandon Banks punt return TD force their way onto the roster.

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I'm pretty disappointed with how things have turned out for Malcolm Kelly after two pro seasons so far. If we release him at the end of the preseason, and I'd bet that he will if he continues to stay unhealthy, I won't be able to help but think about how we wasted a 2nd round pick on him. I was hoping he'd prove everybody wrong and become the dominant red-zone receiver we thought he could be, but as each day passes by and he continues sitting on the sideline due to his hamstring, the more I think we are getting closer to his release date. It's a damn shame he can't stay healthy.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;721034]And we have some notable movement on that wonderful depth chart.

Posted at 5:07 PM ET, 08/16/2010
Willie Parker moves up the depth chart

There are a couple of interesting changes on the updated depth chart the Redskins released in advance of Saturday night's preseason game against the Baltimore Ravens at FedEx Field.

Veteran running back Willie Parker, listed at the bottom of the first depth chart, moved to third string, ahead of young players Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams, who are tied at fourth string. Parker improved his standing for the game against the Baltimore Ravens despite sitting out the 42-17 victory over the Buffalo Bills because it was not his turn to work with the first-team offense.

Roydell Williams, formerly listed as a co-starter at X receiver, or split end, with Joey Galloway, is now fourth-string. Williams, out of the NFL since the 2008 season while struggling with injuries, is playing on special teams for the first time in an attempt to revive his career.

Despite muffing the opening kickoff return of the season, wideout Devin Thomas remained atop the depth chart at that position. Although Phillip Buchanon still is listed as the No. 1 punt returner, rookie Brandon Banks, who had a 77-yard touchdown against the Buffalo Bills, appears to be making a move for the top spot.[/quote]

Well, seeing as the depth chart is for this game only, I wouldn't read too much into the RB list. Shanahan has made it clear he's gonna feature a different back in the first few games. I think Parker is gonna be a cut for sure, and Portis and LJ are the 1 and 2 with Torain making the roster and pushing LJ for the 2 spot. If we keep a 4th RB, I could see Williams being that guy.

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Kelly poppin' trunk!

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I still think Kelly makes the team, maybe he's IR'd for the year a la Colt last year but I don't think he's cut

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[quote=SmootSmack;721164]I still think Kelly makes the team, maybe he's IR'd for the year a la Colt last year but I don't think he's cut[/quote]

Agreed, except for the IR part.. I'm pretty sure Shanahan would have already cut him if he is considering it..

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Why do we want him here if he is constantly injuried, not making plays, and taking a roster spot over a guy like Banks or Austin? Id say bye bye to him without blinking...

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I'd say as far as WR's go we should keep Moss,Thomas,Williams,Banks,Austin. Maybe somehow get Galloway on the team but I think Austin can be as explosive as Joey can. When you have Young burners on your team that are playmakers, you need to keep them around.

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I came here to talk about how weird it was that I had to go almost 7-8 pages on PFT before any news on the Skins and it was the signing of the long snapper and a page later AH's comment on how he likes the defense. lol. It seemed the Skins made a post on every page prior to camp, mostly about AH but still. Even yrs past we had a lot of media coverage. I almost kinda like it.

Now for my after week 1 WR keepers and cuts:

WR Keepers:
Moss (don't know why although he had a dirt ball)
Galloway (who did better getting open)
Armstrong ( he was a beast. he's are big go to guys this yr)
R.Williams ( he ran good routes and played well also)
Thomas ( I still think he has the "it" but he needs to step it up)

Cuts:
Kelly ( just never healthy. time to cut bait)
Furry ( injured. need to see something)
Wade ( not sure what he was doing other then creating penalties)

I think Austin we'll have to see what he gives in future games otherwise I'd put him on the practice squad just to keep him in case a player got hurt.

I think Banks lands a spot as the KR/PR if he stays healthy and doesn't drop the ball. Remember Shanahan drafted Alridge as a speeder RB while at Denver and I bet we would still be here had he not continued dropping the ball. Banks will be used. I foresee Shanahan using him as the KR/PR right now, then possibly the scat back if needed, and lastly in the Wild Cat. Remember last week he lined up a couple of times like that and even Shanahan said he was afraid the media would write about it....why? cause he wants a trick play other teams are not expecting. :) or so I presume.

Banks will take up one of the extra position spots just to have a PR/KR as long as he stays healthy and keep running the ball well.

[B]Edit: [/B]I left Hodge out for a reason. Did he even play last week? I would like to see more of him before I simply throw him out. Hopefully the next 2 weeks give all the WR's a good showing so Shanahan has a hard time picking. Otherwise it's picking the best of the worst.

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for all the believers...
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[B]Ladell Betts signed with Saints.[/B]

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So with training camp ending on Thursday, does this thread too?

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Your the mod you tell us. I would say yes.

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What I don't get is that we have drugs like Viagra that can make a man stiff for hours but we dont have anything for loosening up a hamstring. You would have thought that after the 2007 and 2008 seasons Dan Snyder would have had a patent on that shit.

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Uhhhhhhhhhh...

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[quote=Buster;721224]Uhhhhhhhhhh...[/quote]

Angry's been like that the past few days. Maybe he's just angry.

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You know what's funny, I haven't looked at our schedule once since it's been released.

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That's hilarious. :D

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[quote=12thMan;721258]You know what's funny, I haven't looked at our schedule once since it's been released.[/quote]

You don't want to because it isn't pretty.

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They're using one of my tweets on TCD on CSN at 7!

It was nothing special but will be cool to be featured instead of just on the ticker

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Trent Williams got a reckless driving ticket back in June and is going to court for it soon. Nothing BIG but just a minor concern.

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Where did he get it?

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[quote=Angry;721742]Where did he get it?[/quote]

ffx county, 90 in a 55 on dulles toll road

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Anyone see the article about the availability of 6'4" WR Michael Clayton from the Bucs? Apparently he's on the roster bubble. Shanahan may be waiting for the bucs to cut him. He has previous ties to Bruce Allen. Bucs are also in need of DLineman so we may send a Jarmon over there who is struggling to fit into the 3-4. Keep an eye on this.

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Yeah HH had something about it this morning. Just another role player type of guy though. He's had fewer catches than the previous year for the past few. To think this guy almost had a 1200 yard season and now can't even hit 250..

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I wouldn't make the trade because he'd keep that nearly 5m a year and we don't need to honor that contract.

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[quote=PHazard;721770]Anyone see the article about the availability of 6'4" WR Michael Clayton from the Bucs? Apparently he's on the roster bubble. Shanahan may be waiting for the bucs to cut him. He has previous ties to Bruce Allen. Bucs are also in need of DLineman so we may send a Jarmon over there who is struggling to fit into the 3-4. Keep an eye on this.[/quote]

Would've sounded interesting about 6 months ago. But now, with 11 WR's -- adding another veteran WR with lack of recent productivity doesn't sound appealing.

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[quote=PHazard;721770]Anyone see the article about the availability of 6'4" WR Michael Clayton from the Bucs? Apparently he's on the roster bubble. Shanahan may be waiting for the bucs to cut him. He has previous ties to Bruce Allen. Bucs are also in need of DLineman so we may send a Jarmon over there who is struggling to fit into the 3-4. Keep an eye on this.[/quote]

I don't think we are going to give Jarmon up, just not yet.. He's only 1 yr vet.. I believe Shanahan wants to see how he rides through this season before we determine whether if he's worthy or not..

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[quote=ethat001;721776]Would've sounded interesting about 6 months ago. But now, with 11 WR's -- adding another veteran WR with lack of recent productivity doesn't sound appealing.[/quote]


I agree, some of these newbies show some promise to boot, then you have Galloway in the mix. Devin looks like a lock and is making great strides also. Kelly and Austin are the big question marks. IF we are going to trade a D linemen, make it count like trade for a 3-4 LB or another DB for depth.

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[quote=SmootSmack;721164]I still think Kelly makes the team, maybe he's IR'd for the year a la Colt last year but I don't think he's cut[/quote]

I tend to agree with you. Kelly has too many intangibles (size, hands, potential) to just release at this point. When comparing him to Roydell Williams, Bobby Wade, Terrence Austin, Anthony Armstrong, Kelly's upside is much greater. He may make the team as the 6th WR (Moss, Galloway, Thomas, Austin, Banks, Kelly) and have to work his way up the depth chart but I can't see him being cut over former practice squad guys or players who haven't been in the league for a couple of years.

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The pressure is on Kelly to get on the field and prove his worth. Does Santana still have Galea's phone number?

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Last camp day.. flew by

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Just heard on 980 that Mike Furrey received an injury settlement and is done for the year. May have to retire for concussion related issues. That sucks.