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[quote=SolidSnake84;761398]Race has nothing to do with it. Players are Players. White or Black, it doesn't matter.

When you make it to the NFL, you are expected to be a professional in ALL THINGS. Your race does not give you an exemption from standards.

Vince Young throwing his shoulder pads into the stands is something a 5 year old would do that is having a temper tantrum. Until he can behave at a mature level, he is not deserving of an NFL job, and that has nothing to do with his race.[/quote]

I agree 100%
I don't think race has anything to do with it either.

But I do believe in unbalanced reporting, to put it lightly.

I'm betting that Coach Fischer take zero or less flack for Pulling Vince Young,then Shanahan did for Pulling McNabb.

Was Vince Young seriously 12-16 for 178 yards and 0 INT's?
Not great,but not terrible either

Mcnabb had 1 pick and was playing very bad.
and getting pounded as well...

So you could make an argument that there was a case to pull Mcnabb,but what about Young?

Was he really that bad for T.Smith or whoever that guy is?...who BTW..threw a pick..lol

I'm just glad we won and Mcnabb played very well

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[quote=Shadowbyte;761400]It's the NFL and the sports media who has history of racism and discrimination towards Black QB's. That's a fact. Don't point the finger at me because I'm acknowledging a clear cut fact.[/quote]

You are a racist. Plain and simple. There is no room for that here in these forums.

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This thread has been ruined by these ignorant comments. This is the kind of shit you would see over at Extreme Skins. The Warpath is not racist and does not promote this kind of shit. I'm dissappointed that someone would come here and post something like that.

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[quote=aceinthehouse;761404]I agree 100%
I don't think race has anything to do with it either.

But I do believe in unbalanced reporting, to put it lightly.

I'm betting that Coach Fischer take zero or less flack for Pulling Vince Young,then Shanahan did for Pulling McNabb.

Was Vince Young seriously 12-16 for 178 yards and 0 INT's?
Not great,but not terrible either

Mcnabb had 1 pick and was playing very bad.
and getting pounded as well...

So you could make an argument that there was a case to pull Mcnabb,but what about Young?

Was he really that bad for T.Smith or whoever that guy is?...who BTW..threw a pick..lol

I'm just glad we won and Mcnabb played very well[/quote]

It was how Young handled himself after the game. Extremely unprofessional. THAT is the reason why he is no longer the starter. It's about time pro athletes start acting like grown men.

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[quote=Chico23231;761399]Your a douche bag by insinuating im a racist.

wow just wow...[/quote]

[quote][b]African-American quarterbacks face more pressure and more criticism than their white counterparts, Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb says in an interview scheduled to air on HBO on Tuesday night.[/b][/quote]

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3025308]McNabb says black QBs under more pressure - NFL - ESPN[/url]

I haven't said anything different then the man in your Avatar said.

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Well, you know why Farve is still QB, 'cause his back up is black and Chilly is a racist. He & Brett have hoods in their locker.

Please, the black QB thing is so 80's. You want to hang on to it, fine - I bet you find lots of ways to be a victim.

VY is an extremely talented mental patient who apparently escaped the asylum.

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[quote=skinsguy;761407]It was how Young handled himself after the game. Extremely unprofessional. THAT is the reason why he is no longer the starter. It's about time pro athletes start acting like grown men.[/quote]

Skinsguy..I'm talking about the reporting..not race bud.

I'm talking about Shanahan being called a racist by some collumnists and media for pulling Mcnabb.

The BS reporting that the redskins get compared to other teams skinsfan..

Like Hayneworth
Mcnabb pulled
Landry spitting when it was raining..lol

That's what I'm talking about..

McNabb had a bad game and Shanny was labeled a racist after that...

I'm asking you and everyone...
Does Fischer get the same heat??

That's what I ask...

Do you want my personal opinion on the race matter...?

personally,I think the race thing is absolutely crazy stupid?

Specially on Shanny...

So I must ask..How could Shanny be a racist if he trades his 2nd and 3rd round pick for a Black QB?

The media is dumb
and so are those who called Shanny a racist.
That's my opinion

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[quote=aceinthehouse;761411]Skinsguy..I'm talking about the reporting..not race bud.

I'm talking about Shanahan being called a racist by some collumnists and media for pulling Mcnabb.

The BS reporting that the redskins get compared to other teams skinsfan..

Like Hayneworth
Mcnabb pulled
Landry spitting when it was raining..lol

That's what I'm talking about..

McNabb had a bad game and Shanny was labeled a racist after that...

I'm asking you and everyone...
Does Fischer get the same heat??

That's what I ask...

Do you want my personal opinion on the race matter...?

personally,I think the race thing is absolutely crazy stupid?

Specially on Shanny...

So I must ask..How could Shanny be a racist if he trades his 2nd and 3rd round pick for a Black QB?

The media is dumb
and so are those who called Shanny a racist.
That's my opinion[/quote]


It's tough to know for sure if Fisher would have the same media heat. There is always more of a focal point in D.C., and I'm sure we don't always hear half of what goes on with other teams.

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Racism still exists everywhere - even the NFL. Their affirmative action rule that was implemented finally opened the door for Black NFL coaches. The media also has some crazy double standards and how they perceive some stories.

I will say, though, I don't think Vince Young's situations is about his race.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;761410]Well, you know why Farve is still QB, 'cause his back up is black and Chilly is a racist. He & Brett have hoods in their locker.

Please, the black QB thing is so 80's. You want to hang on to it, fine - I bet you find lots of ways to be a victim.

VY is an extremely talented mental patient who apparently escaped the asylum.[/quote]
It's ok because DM throws the white guys bad balls and the black guys good passes to compensate.........
It is the Yin and Yang of QB racism in the NFL

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[quote][b]Each black quarterback in the National Football League at some point in his career has been encouraged to move from the position and use his athleticism at skilled spots like running back or wide receiver.[/b] Not one has failed to hear the cutting words that he is a better runner than he is a pure passer.[b] Each one has faced his share of brutal jabs about reading defenses poorly, the inference being that black quarterbacks are not mentally up to the task.[/quote][/b]

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/03/sports/inside-the-nfl-the-pushing-and-pulling-of-black-quarterbacks.html]INSIDE THE N.F.L.; The Pushing and Pulling Of Black Quarterbacks - New York Times[/url]

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[quote=Shadowbyte;761409][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3025308]McNabb says black QBs under more pressure - NFL - ESPN[/url]

I haven't said anything different then the man in your Avatar said.[/quote]

Your garbage, effing garbage...my arguement about piss poor Vince Young has nothing to do with whateva blah blah blah soapbox your on

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Gotta love the brotherhood in here.

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[quote=Shadowbyte;761400]It's the NFL and the sports media who has history of racism and discrimination towards Black QB's. That's a fact. Don't point the finger at me because I'm acknowledging a clear cut fact.[/quote]

Are you really insinuating that Jeff Fisher benched Vince Young because he's black?

:doh: :doh: :doh:

With every post you write you are ruining whatever shred of credibility you have on these boards.

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Alright this is getting dumb, let's get back to talking about the game.

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[quote=mooby;761449]Are you really insinuating that Jeff Fisher benched Vince Young because he's black?

:doh: :doh: :doh:

With every post you write you are ruining whatever shred of credibility you have on these boards.[/quote]

I'm not the one who said that Vince Young sucked and he's a bust. I'm using numbers and accomplishments to back up my arguments, unlike the Vince Young detractors on this board. The NFL is a game of numbers, if one refuses to objectively judge someone based on what they accomplished, then what exactly are they basing their conclusions on? If history is any indicator, then the issue of race is obviously playing a factor. McNabb even said it himself. So I guess you think McNabb is a racist too heh?

Even the people on this board overwhelmingly thought that Matt Leinert and Brady Quinn would be better NFL QB's than VY. Despite VY having a winning record, throwing for more yards and TD's, and beating Leinert each and every-time they've played. So I ask you again, what was everyone basing their opinions on? It surely wasn't the numbers.

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/32576-jason-campbell-vince-young-who-would.html[/url]

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As amazing as we looked tonight, A healthy CP really makes the offense look unstoppable. After watching him for the short time he was in, I really miss him.

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[quote=Shadowbyte;761453]I'm not the one who said that Vince Young sucked and he's a bust. I'm using numbers and accomplishments to back up my arguments, unlike the Vince Young detractors on this board. The NFL is a game of numbers, if one refuses to objectively judge someone based on what they accomplished, then what exactly are they basing their conclusions on? If history is any indicator, then the issue of race is obviously playing a factor. McNabb even said it himself. So I guess you think McNabb is a racist too heh?[/quote]

Just let it go and let's move on

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My thoughts on this game today;
- We were the better team, especially with almost half of our starters out
- Cooley played phenomenal
- OL still needs to be address for atleast the next 4 years in the draft.

Right now, our playoff hopes are still alive, although being that the Eagles and Giants are great teams, I don't see us getting in based on the power of teams in the NFC.


on a side note, how bout the new york jets? not even a fan but man they just find ways to win.

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[quote=Mattyk;761458]Just let it go and let's move on[/quote]

I'm done, I've spoken my mind and I'm moving on.

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[quote=Shadowbyte;761453]I'm not the one who said that Vince Young sucked and he's a bust. I'm using numbers and accomplishments to back up my arguments, unlike the Vince Young detractors on this board. The NFL is a game of numbers, if one refuses to objectively judge someone based on what they accomplished, then what exactly are they basing their conclusions on? If history is any indicator, then the issue of race is obviously playing a factor. McNabb even said it himself. So I guess you think McNabb is a racist too heh?[/quote]

I'm not going to get into this with you, especially considering that I don't think Vince Young is a bust, he's just an immature kid with a lot of talent. But you have to understand coaches demand accountability and professionalism, especially Jeff Fisher, and Vince Young acting like a dumb and immature kid while being his starting quarterback isn't going to sit well with him. Having Young in the game gives them a better chance to win, but coaches don't always think along those lines, they want and expect you to act in a professional manner, and when you don't, well there's got to be punishment.

And just because McNabb said it himself doesn't make it true. Do you think Mike Shanahan is a racist because he benched McNabb? McNabb just has an opinion, and you need to recognize that his opinion is not recognized as a fact. Is there racism in the NFL? Maybe, I don't know. But I do know coaches like Jeff Fisher have rules and standards that have to be followed, and when you don't follow them, you pay the price.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;761460]My thoughts on this game today;
- We were the better team, especially with almost half of our starters out
- Cooley played phenomenal
- OL still needs to be address for atleast the next 4 years in the draft.

Right now, our playoff hopes are still alive, although being that the Eagles and Giants are great teams, I don't see us getting in based on the power of teams in the NFC.


on a side note, how bout the new york jets? not even a fan but man they just find ways to win.[/quote]

Sanchez came through in the clutch. That was a big-time throw he made to Braylon. That kid is money, despite his inconsistent play, he's a winner.

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WTF is up with this thread??? We won lets talk about the game. If it aint the Skins losing it's other BS!

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[quote=44ever;761455]As amazing as we looked tonight, A healthy CP really makes the offense look unstoppable. After watching him for the short time he was in, I really miss him.[/quote]

Me too, his uncanny ability to pick the blitzes and assist us in the passing game is paramount. He looked like the Portis of old today.

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[quote=mooby;761449]Are you really insinuating that Jeff Fisher benched Vince Young because he's black?

:doh: :doh: :doh:

With every post you write you are ruining whatever shred of credibility you have on these boards.[/quote]

I thought Young hurt his thumb and just couldnt play anymore today.

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[quote=Shadowbyte;761469]Me too, his uncanny ability to pick the blitzes and assist us in the passing game is paramount. He looked like the Portis of old today.[/quote]

I just seen something about MS acknowledging that CP should not have been in today. Hope he didn't tweek it back to the core. I don't like how they are handling the injuries. Cp, Torain, Banks, all sent back in to soon IMO.

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[quote=44ever;761455]As amazing as we looked tonight, A healthy CP really makes the offense look unstoppable. After watching him for the short time he was in, I really miss him.[/quote]

Yes. It was a shame that he got hurt again. He was running with purpose and looking good.

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VY is a hot and cold QB...avg passer at best and good with his feet. Like most black QBs in the NFL his game at college was amazing but that kinda game doesn't translate well at the pros. The truth is black QBs are faster so they are asked to run more in college because it's all about winning games in college. Running more ruins thier ability to play at the next level so they struggled. Hell, even running white qbs rarely have any impact in the NFL. When they come into the league they are behind.

This isn't a race thing, it's a matter of playing style. If Warren Moon can do it anyone that's a pure passer can do it.

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[quote=Shadowbyte;761392]Black QB's are always judged by their negatives. Example, McNabb is currently ranked #3 in the NFC in total passing yards, but you would never know that because the analysts only focus his negatives (3rd down conversions). Even though Aaron Rodgers has a similar 3rd down completion percentage, I've have yet to hear him criticized for it.[/quote]


Take your race shit and shove it up your ass. Did you miss the past week of every one and their bother on the Mike Vick wagon. Last time I ceck he was black.

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McNabb's yards have got to be some the ugliest yards I have ever seen. If there's two aspects of Jason Campbell that needs to be grafted onto McNabb, it his ability to NOT toss balls into the dirt and the ability to find the damn checkdown receiver.

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Are u guys really arguing race? You do realize most of the NFL is black right? Racism is so dumb

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[quote=Shadowbyte;761453]I'm not the one who said that Vince Young sucked and he's a bust. I'm using numbers and accomplishments to back up my arguments, unlike the Vince Young detractors on this board. The NFL is a game of numbers, if one refuses to objectively judge someone based on what they accomplished, then what exactly are they basing their conclusions on? If history is any indicator, then the issue of race is obviously playing a factor. McNabb even said it himself. So I guess you think McNabb is a racist too heh?

Even the people on this board overwhelmingly thought that Matt Leinert and Brady Quinn would be better NFL QB's than VY. Despite VY having a winning record, throwing for more yards and TD's, and beating Leinert each and every-time they've played. So I ask you again, what was everyone basing their opinions on?[B] It surely wasn't the numbers[/B].

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/32576-jason-campbell-vince-young-who-would.html[/url][/quote]

My opinion that Vince Young is crap was not based on race...then to make personal attacks that im must be a racist is garbage. I dont need numbers to see he doesnt have the leadership to make it, neither does his own head coach...sorry its very offensive to throw around racist accusations like that . you wanna go suck on VY balls, go join a titans board

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;761492]McNabb's yards have got to be some the ugliest yards I have ever seen. If there's two aspects of Jason Campbell that needs to be grafted onto McNabb, it his ability to NOT toss balls into the dirt and the ability to find the damn checkdown receiver.[/quote]

DM has always thrown balls in the dirt. Not sure how you change that now.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;761495]Are u guys really arguing race? You do realize most of the NFL is black right? Racism is so dumb[/quote]

Guess the NFL is racist toward white people (sarcasm). This should not even be discussed in this thread.

Great game today!!! HTTR!

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[quote=44ever;761504]Guess the NFL is racist toward white people (sarcasm). This should not even be discussed in this thread.

Great game today!!! HTTR![/quote]

Yes great game! Now lets see if we can get HOT at the right time.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;761492]McNabb's yards have got to be some the ugliest yards I have ever seen. If there's two aspects of Jason Campbell that needs to be grafted onto McNabb, it his ability to NOT toss balls into the dirt and the ability to find the damn checkdown receiver.[/quote]

8 pass plays of 50 yards or not a single TD. That's an indication that WRs have to slow down to wait on the ball and that we lack breakaway speed.

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[quote=Chico23231;761502]My opinion that Vince Young is crap was not based on race.[/quote]

One thing is for sure, it's not based on his wins or his passer rating. You have every right to dislike his style of play, however you have no tangible evidence to support any of your assertions regarding his ability to win games in the NFL. Your spiteful emotions don't qualify as facts.

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[quote=44Deezel;761524]8 pass plays of 50 yards or not a single TD. That's an indication that WRs have to slow down to wait on the ball and that we lack breakaway speed.[/quote]

That's an indication that our receivers aren't adept at getting yards after the catch. I have yet to see one of them break a tackle and score after the catch, like most elite receivers can and do.

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[quote=Shadowbyte;761527]That's an indication that our receivers aren't adept at getting yards after the catch. I have yet to see one of them break a tackle and score after the catch, like most elite receivers can and do.[/quote]

The only guys that can even break tackles after a catch are our TEs

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McNabb has been underthrowing his WRs often this season. The pass to Moss today was also underthrown.