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[quote=firstdown;864085]I just wonder how you have a 13 yr affair with someone and they have no hard (no [B]bund[/B] intended) evidence to prove their story.[/quote]

swing and a miss

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[quote=FRPLG;864180]bund??? seriously?

You know the word is "pun" right?[/quote]


No Shit. The "P" key is very close to the "B" key and I must have hit he D key when trying to hit the space bar. Happens to people all the time.

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[quote=firstdown;864311]No Shit. The "P" key is very close to the "B" key and I must have hit he D key when trying to hit the space bar. Happens to people all the time.[/quote]

P is close to B?

What kind of keyboard are you using? lol

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[quote=Mattyk;864312]P is close to B?

What kind of keyboard are you using? lol[/quote]

lololololol no sh*t. hopeless.

eff dizzle lay off the drank when you type.

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I have always operated on the assumption that firstdown has a unique keyboard that randomly inserts letters regardless of the key actually used.

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[quote=Mattyk;864312]P is close to B?

What kind of keyboard are you using? lol[/quote]

the d is also an entire row up from the space bar

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[quote=JoeRedskin;864314]I have always operated on the assumption that firstdown has a unique keyboard that randomly inserts letters regardless of the key actually used.[/quote]Be nice, we're all bund to make a typoq from tim to tim.

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Yeah i ma%Ke them all the time.

Honestly though i do make them all the time.

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Mr. Cain had dough on the table and 5 am text needed and a woman his wife hasn't heard of.


...where there is smoke there is a cain of a woman.

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Bye bye bye 9-9-9! LOOOOL.

Lady Karma 1, Adulterers 0.5 thanks to Newt.

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[quote=Mattyk;864312]P is close to B?

What kind of keyboard are you using? lol[/quote]

The P is only about 3 1/2 inches from the B and not very far.

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I'll bet $10,000 Mitt Romney won't win in Iowa next month:)

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/favorite-guns-republicans-running-president-152609570.html]The favorite guns of the Republicans running for president - Yahoo! News[/url]

Glad there getting down to the specifics of the issues.

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yee haw what kinda guns u got bubba

I'll show you mines if you show me yers

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[URL="But she said Bachmann likes semi-automatic rifles. “Michele’s favorite gun is the AR-15,” she told TheDC."]But she said Bachmann likes semi-automatic rifles. “Michele’s favorite gun is the AR-15,” she told TheDC.[/URL]

Shes so crazy.....

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I didnt know much about Newt, besides the fact that hes supposed to be really really smart, but over the last couple days ive heard some very troubling things about the guy. He seems like everything you hate and dont want in a politician......

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRdqGKA782A]Newt Gingrich: Selling Access - YouTube[/ame]

(its a Ron Paul ad, but more a anti-Newt ad then anything)

and this:

[url=http://newtcantwin.com/]Newt Gingrich Can't Beat Barack Obama | Newt Can't Win[/url]

The Iowa primary is Jan 10th, and no way do i see Newt's recent rise lasting that long. At this point last year McCain was done and basically out of the race and Rudy G. was the front runner, so who knows whats going to happen. Bachman, Perry, Cain and now Newt have all challenged Romney so maybe the GOP just wants to say "well look we gave everyone else a chance" before picking Romney. Maybe Huntsman and/or Paul will surge and get their time in the spot light too. I could also see Perry re-surging or Cain coming back.

I said a while back that if Romney gets the nod that Paul could end up running on a third party ticket, i think thats even more true now if Newt were to get the pick. If Paul were to win Iowa (very possible) but continues to get dismissed i can really see him running as a 3rd party guy. This is probably the scenario the GOP is most afraid of for multiple reasons.

Then you have Trump throwing a tamper tantrum because people arnt paying attention to him and threatening to run as a third party candidate. Sorry Trump but if you lead the birther movement people arnt going to respect or acknowledge you when you want attention. The guy isnt fit to run anything right now, he needs to just focus on his businesses.

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You guys have no fcking prayer in unseating Obama yet you guys are hopeful...how ironic

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Unless Trump or Paul end up playing spoiler id be as flabbergasted or even more so then Tiki Barber was after unretiring, if Obama ends up winning. And im not sure what you mean by you guys, but im not a republican, im not registered as one, and I have never once voted for one.

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What happens when Ron Paul wins either Iowa or New Hampshire? I know one thing, Fox news gonna be real pissed, probably still will refuse coverage.

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[quote=mlmpetert;868091]Unless Trump or Paul end up playing spoiler id be as flabbergasted or even more so then Tiki Barber was after unretiring, if Obama ends up winning. And im not sure what you mean by you guys, but im not a republican, im not registered as one, and I have never once voted for one.[/quote]

Quality of candidates matters...you will see and feel how much it matters the week of Nov 6, 2012.

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[quote=saden1;868048]You guys have no fcking prayer in unseating Obama yet you guys are hopeful...how ironic[/quote]
Maybe , 15 trillion is a big # [url=http://www.us-debt-clock.org/]U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time | US-Debt-Clock.org[/url]

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[quote=budw38;868374]Maybe , 15 trillion is a big # [url=http://www.us-debt-clock.org/]U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time | US-Debt-Clock.org[/url][/quote]

And the GOP candidates are shit...and the poor and middle class are getting poorer...so good luck getting obama ousted with that argument.

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[quote=saden1;868388]And the GOP candidates are shit...and the poor and middle class are getting poorer...so good luck getting obama ousted with that argument.[/quote]
As far as middle class getting poorer , Dems took control of house /senate in 06 , Preident in 08 .... now we are getting poorer , not much for dems to hang their hats on . It was also Obama / Acorn sueing banks for NOT loaning to people who couldn't afford to pay the loans . Your Dems wrote the rules on housing , ran the GSE's and banks that lead to the problem , just saying .[url=http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877335,00.html]Frank Raines - 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis - TIME[/url] [url=http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/prudent-man/2011/nov/29/barney-frank-flees-scene-his-fiscal-crimes/]Barney Frank flees the scene of his fiscal crimes | Washington Times Communities[/url] [url=http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/10/11/maxine-waters-caught-lying-about-fannie-mae-ties-real-time]Maxine Waters Caught Lying About Fannie Mae Ties on 'Real Time' | NewsBusters.org[/url] [url=http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2011/12/09/jon-corzine-all-the-proof-you-need-about-obamas-incompetence-and-corruption/]Jon Corzine: All The Proof You Need About Obama’s Incompetence And Corruption « Start Thinking Right[/url]

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[quote=saden1;868388]And the GOP candidates are shit...and the poor and middle class are getting poorer...so good luck getting obama ousted with that argument.[/quote]

I'm middle class and I'm not getting poorer. It helps me when the left thinks like you.

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Conservatives killing own cause. Romney is seen by the right extremist as too moderate and not conservative enough. So as a result they've gravitated to Gingrich. Ironically though if they want to beat Obama they need a more moderate candidate like Romney. Even Obama's campaign people are rooting for Gingrich to win, as they've predicted a landslide victory.

People criticize Obama but remember 3 years ago voters had to decide between the inexperienced Obama and the senile McCain who was ticketed with gun nut Sarah Palin. Gingrich isn't as bad a choice as McCain but he's not the type of candidate that can beat Obama.

Good job republicans, go with the more conservative candidate in lieu of the guy with the best chance to actually win the general election.....again.

I mean we can't make this shit up can we?
[YT]0PAJNntoRgA[/YT]

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Watch and learn.


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[quote=Dirtbag59;868824]Conservatives killing own cause. Romney is seen by the right extremist as too moderate and not conservative enough. So as a result they've gravitated to Gingrich. Ironically though if they want to beat Obama they need a more moderate candidate like Romney. Even Obama's campaign people are rooting for Gingrich to win, as they've predicted a landslide victory.

People criticize Obama but remember 3 years ago voters had to decide between the inexperienced Obama and the senile McCain who was ticketed with gun nut Sarah Palin. Gingrich isn't as bad a choice as McCain but he's not the type of candidate that can beat Obama.

Good job republicans, go with the more conservative candidate in lieu of the guy with the best chance to actually win the general election.....again.

I mean we can't make this shit up can we?
[YT]0PAJNntoRgA[/YT][/quote]

The far right does not have enough votes to get Newt elected they will need help from other Rep. When its all said and done they will throw their vote for who ever is running against Obama. I'll have to say I'm not thrilled with any of them.

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[url=http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/130042/has_glenn_beck_finally_fallen?utm_medium=sem2&utm_campaign=outbrain&utm_source=outbrain&utm_content=outbrain&quick_picks=1]Has Glenn Beck Finally Fallen Off His Rocker? | The Stir[/url]

wow Beck vs Newt...im liking this. Who is the bigger nut?

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[quote=firstdown;868949]The far right does not have enough votes to get Newt elected they will need help from other Rep. When its all said and done they will throw their vote for who ever is running against Obama. I'll have to say I'm not thrilled with any of them.[/quote]

Romney is the devil I know. I mean he scares the crap out of me on some stuff but in general he's best for the most important issue, the economy. I watched a speech the other day where he criticized Obama's energy policy for giving grant money to certain developers saying that the free markets would decide then talking about drilling and other ways to get fossil fuels. Isn't over-dependence on fossil fuels why we got here in the first place? And with no short term incentive to build up the infastructure when will the free market get us out from under?

A lot of this has made me realized that Obama got elected at the wrong time. He would have been great back in 1996 when the economy was starting to pick up and progressive policies would have benefited the greater good.

Unfortunately now we have to settle for the more business friendly Republicans in hopes that businesses will start hiring people again. The problem with the Far Right is that their constitutions are mostly loons that think Christmas is under attack and that support for an unconstitutional amendment banning gay marriage is a good thing.

Not to mention the war on Planned Parenthood, an organisation that helps kids in terrible situations. It's funny how they complain about people on welfare but don't want legalized abortions.

Basically if they select the wrong candidate because of their extremist ideals they'll loose the election.

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[url=http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-december-8-2011/the-matzorian-candidate]The Matzorian Candidate - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 12/08/11 - Video Clip | Comedy Central[/url]


I love Jon Stewart.


Israel ass kissing makes me want to puke.

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I think what Romney was more than likely referring to was Solyndra, the solar company that received a loan from the Department of Energy as a part of loan program to fund green energy start-ups.

Whether or not Mitt Romney is electable and can beat President Obama next November remains to be seen. I seriously doubt it. Romney and the GOP are betting on the economy getting worse to boost their argument that President Obama's policies haven't worked. I think that's a bet the White House is willing to take.

The issues isn't whether or not Romney is smart or capable of running a profitable cooperation; He's done that. But he's not applying for CEO, he's running for President of the United States. Can he govern the country from the Oval office given the complexities and challenges facing the country. And we haven't even gotten to the Commander in Chief test where Romney seems all too eager to go to war with Iran, extend the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan. I guess what I'm saying is, for all of Romney's so called smarts on some very key issues he seems to be out of step with broad public sentiment on where to take the country.

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[quote=firstdown;868822]I'm middle class and I'm not getting poorer. It helps me when the left thinks like you.[/quote]


Are you getting richer? If you are then you're an exception to the trend. I doubt you are getting richer considering the current economic environment and if your income is at the same level it was back in 2007 you have been getting poorer.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;869030]Romney is the devil I know. I mean he scares the crap out of me on some stuff but in general he's best for the most important issue, the economy. I watched a speech the other day where he criticized Obama's energy policy for giving grant money to certain developers saying that the free markets would decide then talking about drilling and other ways to get fossil fuels. Isn't over-dependence on fossil fuels why we got here in the first place? And with no short term incentive to build up the infastructure when will the free market get us out from under?

A lot of this has made me realized that Obama got elected at the wrong time. He would have been great back in 1996 when the economy was starting to pick up and progressive policies would have benefited the greater good.

Unfortunately now we have to settle for the more business friendly Republicans in hopes that businesses will start hiring people again. The problem with the Far Right is that their constitutions are mostly loons that think Christmas is under attack and that support for an unconstitutional amendment banning gay marriage is a good thing.

Not to mention the war on Planned Parenthood, an organisation that helps kids in terrible situations. It's funny how they complain about people on welfare but don't want legalized abortions.

Basically if they select the wrong candidate because of their extremist ideals they'll loose the election.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Dirtbag, i used to think very much like you; when people took positions on things that I personally disagreed with, I wrote their opinions off as extreme. But one day I realized that extremism has to be thought of in a relative context. Examples: Many of the progressive policies that have destroyed the economy of Greece are extreme in the views of most Americans. Just like how most American’s believe that banning women from driving in Saudi Arabia under Sharia law is extreme. These may be extreme examples of “extremism” but the crazy thing is theyre not considered all that extreme in their respective countries.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]So all the extremist positions you identify as a segment of the far right isn’t really all that true, rather theyre just positions you adamantly disagree with. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The US is split when it comes to the War on Christmas:[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/16/poll-us-split-on-happy-ho_1_n_797795.html]Poll: U.S. Split On 'Happy Holidays' Vs. 'Merry Christmas'[/url][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Americans are also pretty split when it comes to allowing same sex marriage:[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][url=http://www.pollingreport.com/civil.htm]Civil Rights[/url] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]And Planned Parenthood even touts a poll that found only a slight majority of Americans oppose cutting off their federal funding:[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][URL]http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/two-new-public-polls-nbc-wsj-quinnipiac-show-majority-support-planned-parenthood-36392.htm[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Meanwhile agreement with Obama’s most recognized progressive policy, ObamaCare, continues to tread closer to an extremist viewpoint:[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][url=http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/ap-poll-obamacare-support-hits-record-low-29/261326]AP Poll: Obamacare support hits record low of 29% | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner[/url][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Just because things don’t make sense logically or emotionally does not mean theyre extreme. My point is that just because you (or i) think something is an extreme viewpoint doesn’t necessarily make it one. Extremist viewpoints can only be extreme if theyre sharply in opposition to the conventional social norms. Everything, with the exception of ObamaCare (and the individual mandate in particular) are pretty evenly divided, so neither side can be extreme. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=saden1;869042]Are you getting richer? If you are then you're an exception to the trend. I doubt you are getting richer considering the current economic environment and if your income is at the same level it was back in 2007 you have been getting poorer.[/quote]

My income is up between 15 to 20% over last year. It was a personal choice I made to work harder to drive up my business. I also think it helps that so many people are convinced that the economy sucks so bad. What's more surprising is my increase in income has come from products like Life Ins. and other products customers don't have to buy so people do have cash to spend.

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Looks like Smoot's old co-worker, at ESPN, Craig James is running for the Senate seat in Texas.

[url=http://vimeo.com/25427131]A Vision Unveiled on Vimeo[/url]


A cheat, liar and a jerk off. Should fit in well with politics.

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[quote=firstdown;869057]My income is up between 15 to 20% over last year. It was a personal choice I made to work harder to drive up my business. I also think it helps that so many people are convinced that the economy sucks so bad. What's more surprising is my increase in income has come from products like Life Ins. and other products customers don't have to buy so people do have cash to spend.[/quote]
Amazing what going back to basic's will do for a person . I have done well , working more , 55-60 hrs / week sometimes . Hell I even workout a little more consistantly than last year . By the way , why would people buy insurance from you .... isn't uncle sam taking care of everyone yet ?

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[quote=saden1;869042]Are you getting richer? If you are then you're an exception to the trend. I doubt you are getting richer considering the current economic environment and if your income is at the same level it was back in 2007 you have been getting poorer.[/quote] So .... you say that since the DEMS took control of Congress ( 07 ) , and had a " Super Majority " in 2008 , people are getting poorer ? Yet everyone should want to re-elect the President ? That is the new slogan for the President , hope for Obama's sake you are not running adds for him next year .... talk about a buzz kill ! Vote for more .... unemployment , more debt , more gov't takeover ( it works so well ) and higher gas prices ... CHANGE we can live with :) Maybe they should stick with what works " we want economice justice " ... we want free education , free housing , free medical care .... you are entitled to it all !!!! :)

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;869072]Looks like Smoot's old co-worker, at ESPN, Craig James is running for the Senate seat in Texas.

[url=http://vimeo.com/25427131]A Vision Unveiled on Vimeo[/url]


A cheat, liar and a jerk off. Should fit in well with politics.[/QUOTE]

Never once met him, but I'd always gotten the sense he wouldn't be greatly missed.

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Craig James is a prick but almost made Maryland football relevant again.

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"War" on Christmas and gay marriage bans are two issues that are motivated heavily by religious beliefs. Now I'll be the first to admit that the War on Christmas is petty and a pointless cause for those that believe heavily in separation of church and state. Maybe it's to distract the far right from pushing creationism in public schools. I don't know. Personally I don't care for it either way. To me Christmas is purely a commercial holiday.

Gay marriage on the other hand is simply motivated by mass-hysteria promoted by religion and virtually every argument for the ban is motivated either by religious beliefs and/or pure homophobia. Neither of which provides just cause to produce such a ban. Scientific, peer reviewed studies on the other hand fail time and time again to produce any factual evidence for the myth's about gay marriage produced by the far right.

[QUOTE]According to a report by the American Academy of Pediatrics, "[B]A growing body of scientific literature[/B] demonstrates that children who grow up with 1 or 2 gay and/or lesbian parents fare as well in emotional, cognitive, social, and sexual functioning as do children whose parents are heterosexual. Children's optimal development seems to be influenced more by the nature of the relationships and interactions within the family unit than by the particular structural form it takes."[/QUOTE]

The constitution states, plain as day, that religion is not to have a place in determining policy. That means that if the Far Right can't provide anything beyond the Leviticus passage they can't seek legal means to invoke a ban on civil unions and gay marriage.

And even if the majority of Americans were opposed to gay marriage there are controls in government designed to protect the interests of the minority. Provided those interests aren't based in religious beliefs and/or hate unless said issue is explicit religious persecution, which is a violation of the first amendment.

The only legitimate arguments I've seen against gay marriage cite potential exploitation regarding spousal privilege in criminal cases and green card marriages. And even then we have to admit that spousal privilege is a huge exploit in our legal system. Not to mention an outdated concept that shouldn't have existed in the first place.

Anyway bottom line is this. Anyone with a far in front of their name should encourage you to run like hell.