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SmootSmack 01-26-2012 05:03 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=Hail to the Redskins;879201]So basically what you are clearly saying here is that the Rams are trading Sam Bradford and Steven Jackson to the Redskins for the 'Skins 1st, and other picks...

The Rams will then pick up RGIII at #2 and Trent Richardson at #6 to form 2/3 of the Aikman-Smith-Irvin trio...

Ahhh... I see now. lol[/quote]

That was so easy a caveman could figure it out. But there's certainly a lot more to ponder, in time I will volunteer that information if you can bear the wait

Hail to the Redskins 01-26-2012 05:06 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=NM Redskin;879204]That is disappointing, I was hoping Foles was gonna be our Dalton.[/quote]

I personally have a feeling that Weeden is the most likely to be "next year's Dalton" .. not that it matters what I think...

And Smoot... we definitely can wait... the ludicrous guessing is part of the fun before hand though... lol

NM Redskin 01-26-2012 05:11 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=Hail to the Redskins;879207]I personally have a feeling that Weeden is the most likely to be "next year's Dalton" .. not that it matters what I think...

And Smoot... we definitely can wait... the ludicrous guessing is part of the fun before hand though... lol[/quote]

Looks like you are correct so far [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/qb-brandon-weeden-trying-to-prove-age-is-his-advantage/2012/01/26/gIQAzB0NTQ_blog.html#pagebreak]QB Brandon Weeden trying to prove age is his advantage - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]

Hail to the Redskins 01-26-2012 05:11 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
I'll say this...

If I'm the Rams, trading Bradford to the Redskins is a no-brainer here.

You get your QB at #2, then can possibly grab J. Blackmon at #6 or trade down, grab a M. Floyd or A. Jeffery, and more picks to improve with young talent quickly.

I could definitely see the Rams being open to the idea.

GTripp0012 01-26-2012 05:20 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879205]That was so easy a caveman could figure it out. But there's certainly a lot more to ponder, in time I will volunteer that information if you can bear the wait[/quote]Your riddles are a lot more interesting than the actual rumors themselves.

Player_HTTR 01-26-2012 05:23 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879205]That was so easy a caveman could figure it out. But there's certainly a lot more to ponder, in time I will volunteer that information if you can bear the wait[/quote]

Ok so out of this I found key words for Orakpo, Ponder, Somebody from the University of Tennessee, and Chicago.

Oh now I am really confused.

WaldSkins 01-26-2012 05:24 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879160]With any [B]luck[/B] we'll know [B]sooner[/B] or later. Still [B]fishing[/B] for some info, it could take all day. Or it could just take [B]15[/B] minutes[/quote]

So we are talking to Fisher about the possibility of Luck falling to number 2. And if he falls to #2, the rams will select Luck and trade Sam Bradford to us.

If that trade doesnt happen then the Shannahans will make a run for #15 Tim Tebow

Did I get it????

Hail to the Redskins 01-26-2012 05:26 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=Player_HTTR;879215]Ok so out of this I found key words for Orakpo, Ponder, Somebody from the University of Tennessee, and Chicago.

Oh now I am really confused.[/quote]

The Volunteer is P. Manning... Chicago is where ex-Shanny-man Cutler plays.

Something tells me Smoot that the SC scenario hinges on where Manning lands?? Wheras yours hinges on Luck being there at #2?? I am close on that at least?

Some may think that If Manning is cut loose... then whoever grabs him may trade their starter (Cutler? Tebow?)? But to me... with his injury-thing... I just don't see anyone logically doing that... no way.

Also... there is no way that Chicago let's Cutler go after what just happened with their record with and without him... and same with Tebow... no way now... not if they like selling out their stadium.

SBXVII 01-26-2012 05:27 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
I think quite a few of you will be dissapointed come draft day with all the disinformation I believe the Skins are putting out there to throw everyone off as to what they are actually going to do.

SmootSmack 01-26-2012 05:30 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=GTripp0012;879214]Your riddles are a lot more interesting than the actual rumors themselves.[/quote]

The brave warrior stampedes across the fruited plains

SmootSmack 01-26-2012 05:31 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SBXVII;879220]I think quite a few of you will be dissapointed come draft day with all the disinformation I believe the Skins are putting out there to throw everyone off as to what they are actually going to do.[/quote]

The "disinformation" that you're hearing...is not what SC and I are hearing

Hail to the Redskins 01-26-2012 05:33 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879221]The brave warrior stampedes across the fruited plains[/quote]

Clearly, we are bringing back Pineapple Jesus, Colt Brennan (the Rainbow Warrior), and trading him to the Calgary Stampede for a basket of fruit.

Finally! I got it!! What do I win??

GTripp0012 01-26-2012 05:36 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=Player_HTTR;879215]Ok so out of this I found key words for Orakpo, Ponder, Somebody from the University of Tennessee, and Chicago.

Oh now I am really confused.[/quote]Be careful on that Chicago conclusion.

GTripp0012 01-26-2012 05:36 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879221]The brave warrior stampedes across the fruited plains[/quote]Bryant Moniz? Now you're just making stuff up.

mbedner3420 01-26-2012 05:38 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879222]The "disinformation" that you're hearing...is not what SC and I are hearing[/quote]

It's good that you and SC and conclusively have the same information... gives it much more legitimacy

SmootSmack 01-26-2012 05:45 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=mbedner3420;879228]It's good that you and SC and conclusively have the same information... gives it much more legitimacy[/quote]

We don't have the same information (similar, but not necessarily the same). What I was trying to say is we haven't been hearing the same information that the general public is hearing.

Son Of Man 01-26-2012 05:45 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
When can we get a sneak peek at this deal?

SBXVII 01-26-2012 05:46 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879222]The "disinformation" that you're hearing...is not what SC and I are hearing[/quote]

By no means am I saying you or SC are purposefully putting out disinformation. What I'm saying is I believe the majority of what the Skins are letting escape their facility or allowing specific people to comment on is meant to throw everyone off. So how does that pertain to you and SC? I think your information is right..... the right information that Redskins Park wants to let get out.

SmootSmack 01-26-2012 05:46 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=Son Of Man;879234]When can we get a sneak peek at this deal?[/quote]

Once I get final approval to disclose. And it's two deals

mbedner3420 01-26-2012 05:48 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879237]Once I get final approval to disclose. And it's two deals[/quote]

Can you at least say what we are expected to have to give up?

Son Of Man 01-26-2012 05:48 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
This is exciting. I feel like a housewife waiting to see who's baby it is on her favorite soap opera.

No offense to the housewives out there. Love you all!

SmootSmack 01-26-2012 05:51 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SBXVII;879235]By no means am I saying you or SC are purposefully putting out disinformation. What I'm saying is I believe the majority of what the Skins are letting escape their facility or allowing specific people to comment on is meant to throw everyone off. So how does that pertain to you and SC? I think your information is right..... the right information that Redskins Park wants to let get out.[/quote]

What I'm saying is the rumors that you and everyone else are hearing online, on tv, on the radio, etc are not the same rumors we're hearing

SmootSmack 01-26-2012 05:52 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=mbedner3420;879239]Can you at least say what we are expected to have to give up?[/quote]

Been dropping hints left and right

mbedner3420 01-26-2012 05:54 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879242]What I'm saying is the rumors that you and everyone else are hearing online, on tv, on the radio, etc are not the same rumors we're hearing[/quote]

I think that is his point. But he is saying those sources that are giving you information are intentionally giving you false information to perpetuate Shanny's smoke machine. I tend to think that is far fetched, but whatever.

Hail to the Redskins 01-26-2012 05:57 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
The biggest hint of all..

Smoot made sure not to acknowledge my post about grabbing Pineapple Jesus and trading him to Calgary for a basket of fruit.

EDITED... lol : I left out that we in turn trade the basket of fruit and our 1st rounder to Chicago for Cutler, then trade Cutler back to Denver for Tebow, then trade Tebow to Minny (they love him cause he beat them and played so well) for Christian Ponder, who we then trade to Philly for Vince Young, then trade Young to St. Louis for Bradford to re-unite Young with Fisher because are so close (if anyone remembers their history...lol). Oh, and we sign P. Manning to be Bradford's backup.

Ummm... duh.

He's hoping no one saw it as it would clearly give everything away.

Son Of Man 01-26-2012 05:57 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
Smoot,

You seem to be a very smart guy and I agree with most of your posts. Here is my question:

If either of these deals go through, will you be pleased? Elated?

NC_Skins 01-26-2012 05:58 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
I figured it was back to the Bradford thing, but I don't see what leverage the Rams have in dealing him. Sure he was a #1 pick, but he hasn't really done anything to warrant a huge asking price at this stage (i know he has crappy talent). Picks now are generally worth more than picks in the past. (so to speak) Also, we could force their hand on draft day if they really want RGIII that bad. It's either discount Bradford or be stuck with two QBs. I know SHanny loves the guy because he tried to trade up for him when he came out. He wasn't willing to overpay then so I imagine he's not going to want to overpay now.

GTripp0012 01-26-2012 05:58 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=Hail to the Redskins;879246]I left out that we in turn trade the basket of fruit for Christian Ponder, who we then trade to Denver for Tim Tebow, in turn, we trade Tebow to Chicago for Cutler, then trade Cutler to St. Louis for Bradford. Oh, and we sign P. Manning to be Bradford's backup.[/quote]You know this has to happen now.

mbedner3420 01-26-2012 05:59 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879243]Been dropping hints left and right[/quote]

Well, I'm obviously smart enough to get the hints, but for the sake of those who aren't (which is definitely not me because I've totally absorbed and understood what you've been implying thus far), could you be a tad clearer?

SBXVII 01-26-2012 06:00 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879242]What I'm saying is the rumors that you and everyone else are hearing online, on tv, on the radio, etc are not the same rumors we're hearing[/quote]

Ok.

SmootSmack 01-26-2012 06:00 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=Son Of Man;879247]Smoot,

You seem to be a very smart guy and I agree with most of your posts. Here is my question:

If either of these deals go through, will you be pleased? Elated?[/quote]

Check's in the mail :)

Depending on the price tag I'd be somewhere between comfortably satisfied to orgasmic

GTripp0012 01-26-2012 06:01 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=NC_Skins;879248]I figured it was back to the Bradford thing, but I don't see what leverage the Rams have in dealing him. Sure he was a #1 pick, but he hasn't really done anything to warrant a huge asking price at this stage (i know he has crappy talent). Picks now are generally worth more than picks in the past. (so to speak) Also, we could force their hand on draft day if they really want RGIII that bad. It's either discount Bradford or be stuck with two QBs. I know SHanny loves the guy because he tried to trade up for him when he came out. He wasn't willing to overpay then so I imagine he's not going to want to overpay now.[/quote]I don't think Denver is going to trade Tim Tebow, but if they decide to move him, I think it's open season on veteran quarterbacks. I mean, Tebow and Peyton Manning in the same offseason? Good luck, Major League Baseball.

NYCskinfan82 01-26-2012 06:02 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=mbedner3420;879250]Well, I'm obviously smart enough to get the hints, but for the sake of those who aren't (which is definitely not me because I've totally absorbed and understood what you've been implying thus far), could you be a tad clearer?[/quote]

Thanks, for speaking up for me I'm just no getting the hints.

Hail to the Redskins 01-26-2012 06:02 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=GTripp0012;879249]You know this has to happen now.[/quote]

My edited idea makes MUCH more sense... lol... go back and check it out... lol

SmootSmack 01-26-2012 06:04 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
Ok, listen 15 has nothing to do with Tebow I can ensure you

WaldSkins 01-26-2012 06:06 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879256]Ok, listen 15 has nothing to do with Tebow I can ensure you[/quote]

Is that how many minutes till you tell us?

mbedner3420 01-26-2012 06:08 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879256]Ok, listen 15 has nothing to do with Tebow I can ensure you[/quote]

Ryan mallet?

GTripp0012 01-26-2012 06:09 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879256]Ok, listen 15 has nothing to do with Tebow I can ensure you[/quote]That's not what I meant at all. I was more linking Tebow (potentially) to the Rams because of other coaching changes/QB inconsistencies.

Like I said, I don't think he's going to get moved, but 1) it could set off a flurry of vet QB movement (which is really what this thread is about), and 2) it would dominate the headlines in the NFL offseason. Tebow obviously wouldn't have any effect on the Redskins offseason.

Hail to the Redskins 01-26-2012 06:10 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;879256]Ok, listen 15 has nothing to do with Tebow I can ensure you[/quote]

They are stuck with that dude, no matter what they say... he is a money-making machine now who will fill seats next year.

To me... It is VERY interesting to think about where Tebow will be in 2014. Starting? on to another team? or done in the NFL?

That's a whole other subject... point is, yeah, you have to figure there is no way Tebow goes anywhere for another 12 months at least.

Hog1 01-26-2012 06:10 PM

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 
[quote=mbedner3420;879197]So... Tannehill?[/quote]
Did you not read the part about Walt looking and birds flying into windows.......and such......


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