I heard we are 31M under is that accurate?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;895823]any ideas?[/quote]

A couple

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[quote=skinsfaninok;895824]I heard we are 31M under is that accurate?[/quote]

That's what I heard

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;895829]A couple[/QUOTE]

Like to share? Or can't

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;895830]That's what I heard[/QUOTE]

That's a good amount to get some solid players

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So TK just said it's not Rak, hmmmm. Not sure if serious or just trying to keep it quiet.

[QUOTE=DC Tailgate;895833]So TK just said it's not Rak, hmmmm. Not sure if serious or just trying to keep it quiet.[/QUOTE]

Good

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[quote=DC Tailgate;895833]So TK just said it's not Rak, hmmmm. Not sure if serious or just trying to keep it quiet.[/quote]

Tony Kornheiser?

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I can't imagine the Skins trading for a player that is on the eve of becoming a FA. So who out there is a RFA or is a current player for another team that we might want?

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;895748]Mike Wallace?[/quote]

I'd do that without thinking twice. Rather pay Wallace than V Jax or Colston

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[quote=skinsfaninok;895831]Like to share? Or can't[/quote]

Um...let's see. Two guys have been primarily rumored. One is controversial, the other underachieving.

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[quote=SmootSmack;895856]Um...let's see. Two guys have been primarily rumored. One is controversial, the other underachieving.[/quote]

Controversial. I would have to say that's D-hall.

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lets think about how many players on our team right now have any decent trade value? not many, probably Rak, Kerrigan, Davis and Williams.

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[quote=NC_Skins;895857]Controversial. I would have to say that's D-hall.[/quote]

IMO

Controversial-Fred Davis

Underachiever- Trent Williams

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[quote=SmootSmack;895856]Um...let's see. Two guys have been primarily rumored. One is controversial, the other underachieving.[/quote]

The first is Hall, the second is..... Hall.

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[quote=SmootSmack;895843]Tony Kornheiser?[/quote]

lol, i think he probably means the mod at extremeskins. i lost 99% of the respect i had for DC Tailgate after citing TK as a source.

other than Rak, we dont have a single player on our team with substantial trade value. I think we may be getting a little worked up about what this potential trade could be. Its probably going to end up being something uninteresting like trading a marginal player for a late round pick.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;895864]lol, i think he probably means the mod at extremeskins. i lost 99% of the respect i had for DC Tailgate after citing TK as a source.

other than Rak, we dont have a single player on our team with substantial trade value. I think we may be getting a little worked up about what this potential trade could be. Its probably going to end up being something uninteresting like trading a marginal player for a late round pick.[/quote]

Whoops. Right. That would make more sense than Kornheiser. I'm just used to referring to Kornheiser as TK.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;895856]Um...let's see. Two guys have been primarily rumored. One is controversial, the other underachieving.[/QUOTE]

Well hall is our only controversial imo and under avhiever? Hmm idk as long as it's not TW I'm good

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How is Hall controversial? I think thats just in the fans eyes....now underachieving, def.

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[quote=Ruhskins;895871]How is Hall controversial? I think thats just in the fans eyes....now underachieving, def.[/quote]

I hope it's Hall, I would do cartwheels if he's traded.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;895872]I hope it's Hall, I would do cartwheels if he's traded.[/quote]

Hall=no trade value

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[quote=biffle;895862]The first is Hall, the second is..... Hall.[/quote]

Well played. Bravo...lol

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[quote=Ruhskins;895871]How is Hall controversial? I think thats just in the fans eyes....now underachieving, def.[/quote]

i honestly dont think hall is "underachieving" - hes performing exactly as he always has and about what we'd expect. i honestly dont get controversial either, but perhaps i dont understand what is meant by controversial - i'm assuming controversial would mean - there would be a controversy amongst fans if he were traded. With hall, i dont think there'd be too much contoversy. I also think the trent williams trade talk is a bit silly - he's only been here two years and we've got to have someone protecting our new QB. the OT market is pretty weak in free agency. we'd be fools to trade Williams at this point.

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[quote=Ruhskins;895871]How is Hall controversial? I think thats just in the fans eyes....now underachieving, def.[/quote]

With his shit talking. The calling out of Haslett for him not covering the best WR, only to give up 100+ yards and TD to some scrub WR the following week.


I'd say he was controversial.

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Underachiever= Barnes

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;895878]i honestly dont think hall is "underachieving" - hes performing exactly as he always has and about what we'd expect. i honestly dont get controversial either, but perhaps i dont understand what is meant by controversial - i'm assuming controversial would mean - there would be a controversy amongst fans if he were traded. With hall, i dont think there'd be too much contoversy. I also think the trent williams trade talk is a bit silly - he's only been here two years and we've got to have someone protecting our new QB. the OT market is pretty weak in free agency. we'd be fools to trade Williams at this point.[/quote]

dont know if williams was mentioned early in this thread about being traded. i think it would also be a mistake to trade out LT, but he is one of few players that has any trade value.

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controversial = cooley (controversial because fan favorite)
underachiever = hall

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[quote=NC_Skins;895879]With his shit talking. The calling out of Haslett for him not covering the best WR, only to give up 100+ yards and TD to some scrub WR the following week.


I'd say he was controversial.[/quote]

So that was like what, two years ago?

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Underachiever=Armstrong(not much trade value)
Underachiever=Moss(last year, not much trade value)
Underachiever=Hall(not much trade value)
Underachiever=Chester(not much trade value, maybe Baltimore)


Controversial=Hall
Controversial=Davis
Controversial=T.Williams

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;895880]Underachiever= Barnes[/quote]

That's a bingo. Barnes was a 3rd round pick, and for 3 seasons now he hasn't even been a good depth player. He should've stepped up and grabbed the nickel corner spot by last season, but he didn't even do that. He's definitely an underachiever, and probable trade bait as well.

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If you think, Barnes isn't even a valuable depth player, then how is hr "trade bait?" why would another team want to trade for him?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;895931]If you think, Barnes isn't even a valuable depth player, then how is hr "trade bait?" why would another team want to trade for him?[/quote]
Exactly!

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[quote=Ruhskins;895871]How is Hall controversial? I think thats just in the fans eyes....now underachieving, def.[/quote]

I think controversial here means character issues. Like calling out the coaching staff after a game through the media. Or some of his other incidents.
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[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;895661]I nominate Captain Insano
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I honestly do not believe we have the depth to get rid of a lineman or secondary player. Yes, FA is a possibility but we don't have many draft picks until Shallenhan starts wheeling and dealing at the draft. So I doubt it's Williams or Hall. We'd be left with even bigger gaping holes in those parts of the team with no guaranteed replacements. Very risky.

Orakpo, no way.

I'm fearing that Cooley is the most logical. I hope not.

I don't know...Adam Carricker? He has been solid but for his 13th overall draft position, an underachiever. We have Jarvis Jenkins coming back to play DE instead of NT...so he could be expendable but I'd rather keep the solid depth unless it really helps us fill a real need.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;895938]I think controversial here means character issues. Like calling out the coaching staff after a game through the media. Or some of his other incidents.
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To be fair, Jacobs is just as much of a trashy player at times.



I don't mind the side shows with Hall, or even lapses in coverage. He makes big plays when we need them. If we get 2 other solid corners so he's not always on the other team's #1, I'm fine with him staying.

Sometimes teams need spark plugs like this to light fires.

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Carriker's a free agent. He wouldn't be traded

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[quote=DCtoAZ;895940]Captain Insaneo shows no mercy
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His ONLY negative is I feel theres a good chance he's going to test positive for cocaine somewhere down the line :D

Still I just love that pic of him and Barkley.
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Seriously he just played the wrong sport. If he played hockey a lot of his character issues would have been viewed as assets.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;895931]If you think, Barnes isn't even a valuable depth player, then how is hr "trade bait?" why would another team want to trade for him?[/quote]

Teams trade crappy picks (aka 7th rd, etc.) for "2nd chance" (which is another way of saying crappy) players all the time. If some other team thinks it can turn that players' career around and he's available for dirt cheap than why not? We did it with Adam Carriker, and look at him now. Just because I don't think KB is that good doesn't mean some other team won't take a chance on him to resurrect his career.

I must admit I'm confused at all the get rid of Orakpo talk. Ugh have you not seen how much promise we have with Rak & Kerrigan ? Why would you break that up when when we just dumped picks. That's silly. And the D-Hall bashing I get but everyone wanted Los out too and how did that work out ? We don't need to unload players, we made our big deal. Why trade for a WR when we can simply go pick a FA up, stud WRs and draft a CB or SS.


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