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[quote=mooby;900283]LOL. Clearly, they [URL="http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/14/3371495/arrowhead-anxiety-turnover-off.html#storylink=cpy"]AREN'T[/URL] a dysfunctional organization.

And saying he'd rather play with a known commodity like Matt Cassel is like saying he'd rather play with known commodity Rex Grossman over Robert Griffin III (for you Lotus). Just because Matt Cassel is a known commodity doesn't mean he's a good commodity.[/quote]
Trust me, why he chose Kansas of all teams is interesting to me too.

It's not unreasonable to think he doesn't want to be part of the media circus in Washington. Also, Cassel seems to give teams he's with a chance and isn't the joke of the NFL like Rex. Terrible comparison.

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Willie Smith and Dejon Gomes are both "fingers crossed" guys. They both flashed good and flashed suck last year. We need both to be much better as sophomores but there is no guarantee of that.

I'd take RG3 or luck over about 7 Starters in the league today.

Rex.
Tjack
MATT moore
Mark Sanchez
Colt McCoy
Matt cassel
Ponder

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[quote=IrMitchell;900289]Trust me, why he chose Kansas of all teams is interesting to me too.

It's not unreasonable to think he doesn't want to be part of the media circus in Washington. Also, Cassel seems to give teams he's with a chance and isn't the joke of the NFL like Rex. Terrible comparison.[/quote]

If Winston goes to KC IMO it will not be because of Cassel, because they are competitive, because it's a small town, because they haven't been dysfunctional, or because of the barbeque. None of those are compelling reasons despite the barbeque's being good.

It will be for one reason: $$$$

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[quote=skinsfaninok;900292]I'd take RG3 or luck over about 7 Starters in the league today.

Rex.
Tjack
MATT moore
Mark Sanchez
Colt McCoy
Matt cassel
Ponder[/quote]
You'd take,
Tebow
Kolb
Bradford
Gabbert
Dalton
Hasselbeck
A Smith
Freeman
Palmer

over RG3? We're not drafting some borderline 1st round QB (Campbell), we're drafting a legitimate 1st overall pedigree type of QB. You'll regret that list in 1 year.

Well there's more then Lol

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[quote=Lotus;900294]If Winston goes to KC IMO it will not be because of Cassel, because they are competitive, because it's a small town, because they haven't been dysfunctional, or because of the barbeque. None of those are compelling reasons despite the barbeque's being good.

It will be for one reason: $$$$[/quote]
That's fair, also maybe Kyle isn't a fan of Winston? He'd know him as well as anybody.

[QUOTE=IrMitchell;900295]You'd take,
Tebow
Kolb
Bradford
Gabbert
Dalton
Hasselbeck
A Smith
Freeman
Palmer

over RG3? We're not drafting some borderline 1st round QB (Campbell), we're drafting a legitimate 1st overall pedigree type of QB. You'll regret that list in 1 year.[/QUOTE]

I was just saying id take a bunch of guys now

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[SIZE="4"][B]Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

Chargers agreed to terms with quarterback Charlie Whitehurst on a two-year contract Friday.
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So basically the Chargers got two 3rd rounders for nothing...lol :laughing-

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Packers lose Wells to the Rams

Chargers sign Atari Bigby

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Evan Mathis with the tweet of the century.

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[quote=IrMitchell;900365]Evan Mathis with the tweet of the century.[/quote]

which was?

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[quote=That Guy;900374]which was?[/quote]

Apparently that's for him to know and you to find out.

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He tweeted this picture
[IMG]https://p.twimg.com/AoKARKuCMAE3Z8b.jpg[/IMG]

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^ judging by his 'tweet' it seems the redskins are out of it.

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[quote=NC_Skins;900348][SIZE="4"][B]Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

Chargers agreed to terms with quarterback Charlie Whitehurst on a two-year contract Friday.
[/B][/SIZE]

So basically the Chargers got two 3rd rounders for nothing...lol :laughing-[/quote]

And people always want to talk badly about our FO, sometimes rightly so. But damn if the Seahawks didn't drop the ball on this trade big time.

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[quote=NC_Skins;900348][B]Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

Chargers agreed to terms with quarterback Charlie Whitehurst on a two-year contract Friday.
[/B]

So basically the Chargers got two 3rd rounders for nothing...lol :laughing-[/quote]

This whole thing with Clipboard Jesus is probably the last thing the Browns or the Dolphins fans want to hear.

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They had this little tid bit on walterfootball about Peyton Hillis in his free agent description:

"Update: Hillis reportedly has thought about quitting football to become a CIA agent. Umm... what? Teams will definitely question his dedication."

lol dude must have some screws loose

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[quote=Chico23231;900419]They had this little tid bit on walterfootball about Peyton Hillis in his free agent description:

"Update: Hillis reportedly has thought about quitting football to become a CIA agent. Umm... what? Teams will definitely question his dedication."

lol dude must have some screws loose[/quote]

He watched the Jason Bourne trilogy waaaay too much.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;900268]Who needs Winston, we got Willie Smith who I predict will be the RT for many years to come.[/quote]I would love it and part of me believes you're right.
Willie Smith has the physical skillset and measureables to fit in this scheme.

But, I don't want to end up taking Willie Smith potential for guaranteed.
I think its smart to get a solid RT that is a clear upgrade from Jammal Brown.
If we're drafting RGIII we owe it to him and to ourselves to keep him protected and Jammal Brown and Willie Smith is a huge and unneccesary risk.
Upgrade RT and if Willie Smith emerges great, there's no loss there.
But if we count and Willie Smith and he fails then we really hinder the productivity of RGIII.

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[quote=vallin21;898801]Cowboys overspent for Carr... he's not worth 10 mil per[/quote]
Where do you come up with 10 mil per year?

His guaranteed money is only 26 million. Thats all that matters anyway is the guaranteed money. They have the option to void the final year of the contract in 2013.

They can take his salary in 2013 and convert it to a signing bonus and prorate that over 3 years. Which means his total salary cap numbers will be over the next 4 years are 3.2 for 2012 and 4.2 mil over the next 3 years after that.

In fact, all 6 free agents the Cowboys have signed this year will only count 11 million against the cap this year.

I don't see where you come up with 10 mil/yr just for Carr though?

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[quote=Chico23231;900419]They had this little tid bit on walterfootball about Peyton Hillis in his free agent description:

"Update: Hillis reportedly has thought about quitting football to become a CIA agent. Umm... what? Teams will definitely question his dedication."

lol dude must have some screws loose[/quote]

Already been debunked as BS.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/02/hillis-denies-cia-story/]Hillis denies CIA story | ProFootballTalk[/url]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/04/cribbs-thinks-former-agent-planted-hillis-cia-story/]Cribbs thinks former agent planted Hillis CIA story | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=That Guy;900374]which was?[/quote]

Reminiscent of 'hey guys I was on the radio today'...

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[quote=sandtrapjack;900454]Where do you come up with 10 mil per year?

His guaranteed money is only 26 million. Thats all that matters anyway is the guaranteed money. They have the option to void the final year of the contract in 2013.

They can take his salary in 2013 and convert it to a signing bonus and prorate that over 3 years. Which means his total salary cap numbers will be over the next 4 years are 3.2 for 2012 and 4.2 mil over the next 3 years after that.

In fact, all 6 free agents the Cowboys have signed this year will only count 11 million against the cap this year.

I don't see where you come up with 10 mil/yr just for Carr though?[/quote]It's thirty three million in years 1-3, so it's really [B]$11 mil/year[/B] on Carr through the years where they can't move him b/c of the contract. After that point, it's two additional years at 8.5 mil, which is more reasonable.

Money is frontloaded because that's the only way he'd sign.

In 2013 his base salary is 14mil per ESPN Dallas. That's an overpay but had to be done in order to get him. And they will certainly restructure it next year

Edit wrong year

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[quote=sandtrapjack;900454]Where do you come up with 10 mil per year?

His guaranteed money is only 26 million. Thats all that matters anyway is the guaranteed money. They have the option to void the final year of the contract in 2013.

They can take his salary in 2013 and convert it to a signing bonus and prorate that over 3 years. Which means his total salary cap numbers will be over the next 4 years are 3.2 for 2012 and 4.2 mil over the next 3 years after that.

In fact, all 6 free agents the Cowboys have signed this year will only count 11 million against the cap this year.

I don't see where you come up with 10 mil/yr just for Carr though?[/quote]

I made that assumption the day he signed, and didn't care to look up the actual structure of his deal when the contract details were released (I'm not a Dallas fan)... but since you've analyzed,disected, and vividly explained Carr's his contract, it's a more reasonable signing, but I'd also add another CB to replace M. Jenkins

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[quote=sandtrapjack;900454]Where do you come up with 10 mil per year?

His guaranteed money is only 26 million. Thats all that matters anyway is the guaranteed money. They have the option to void the final year of the contract in 2013.

They can take his salary in 2013 and convert it to a signing bonus and prorate that over 3 years. Which means his total salary cap numbers will be over the next 4 years are 3.2 for 2012 and 4.2 mil over the next 3 years after that.

In fact, all 6 free agents the Cowboys have signed this year will only count 11 million against the cap this year.

I don't see where you come up with 10 mil/yr just for Carr though?[/quote]


yall just better play a ton of zone. He was terrible last year man to man, and Flowers took #1WR most of the time.

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[quote=Chico23231;900465]yall just better play a ton of zone. [B]He was terrible last year man to man[/B], and Flowers took #1WR most of the time.[/quote]I wish we could get someone who is terrible in man to man.

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[quote=GTripp0012;900472]I wish we could get someone who is terrible in man to man.[/quote]

yeah id take him over what we got. Porter is the only guy out there I want at this point to play nickle. Id take him over Ross.

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LaRon is supposed to visit with the eagles today or tomorrow from what I remember.

Eric Winston STILL is visiting with KC

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Adam Schefter ‏
Eagles and free-agent G @evanmathis69 reached agreement on a 5-year deal, $25 million deal, including $7 mil gtd. Mathis back in Philly.

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The market for OTs was weak to begin with, but it's been really slow to develop. The Redskins can get a guy pretty easily and fit him into their cap situation.

Guards have gone a lot hotter, for whatever reason. Probably smart to sit that one out.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/17/eric-winston-is-the-chiefs-new-right-tackle/]Eric Winston is the Chiefs’ new right tackle | ProFootballTalk[/url]

We knew once he went there, they would get him.

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pats sign Anthony Gonzales.. Meaning no BLloyd

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Eric Winston is a Chief. Prepare to do nothing in that division Eric. Waste of talent going to a team like that!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;900525]Eric Winston is a Chief. Prepare to do nothing in that division Eric. Waste of talent going to a team like that![/quote]

What are you talking about? He gets two front row seats to Tebow-Mania next year.

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Patriots officially sign Brandon lloyd..With him and Gonzalez and not signing Welker long term, you'd have to think Wallace is probably not going there, but we'll see.

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;900541]Patriots officially sign Brandon lloyd..With him and Gonzalez and not signing Welker long term, you'd have to think Wallace is probably not going there, but we'll see.[/QUOTE]

Lloyd is a? Signing there

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/17/patriots-reach-agreement-with-brandon-lloyd/]Patriots reach agreement with Brandon Lloyd | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Eric Winston

4 years $22 Million

$10 million Guaranteed....Now I'm real pissed. Redskins could have gotten him at that price, but Noooo we need josh morgan and cedric griffin? This is some BS