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Hog1 03-14-2012 08:44 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;898936]What does a whale's vagina have to do with this?[/quote]
Whatever the meaning, please don't Youtube it......and lookout for the Pic to share thread...
DRave has gone Native over there.

CultBrennan59 03-14-2012 08:44 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;898936]What does a whale's vagina have to do with this?[/quote]

You've never seen anchorman?
[YT]XMs93OyvmYY[/YT]

DynamiteRave 03-14-2012 08:45 PM

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[quote=Hog1;898940]Whatever the meaning, please don't Youtube it......and lookout for the Pic to share thread...
DRave has gone Native over there.[/quote]

lol I haven't posted pics in awhile. I think I'm overdue.

CultBrennan59 03-14-2012 08:46 PM

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[quote=12thMan;898939]Now that VJAX is gone, San Diego could feature Royal more, plus he's used to playing in the division. Norv, Rivers, Gates, etc.[/quote]

exactly and its san diego not washington dc; better weather

vallin21 03-14-2012 08:47 PM

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Ted Ginn Jr?... If Royal doesn't sign

Royal 2011: 19 rec 155 yds 1 td [B]8.6 ypc[/B]
Ginn 2011: 19 rec 220 yds [B]11.6 ypc [/B]

Royal and Ginn Jr had the same amount of receptions; but Ginn was able to gain close to 12 yds per catch, and was also a better Punt Returner:
[B](38 Returns, 466 yds, 12.3 average, 1 TD, [B]9[/B] 20+ yrd returns, and 3 returns over 40 yds.)[/B] Compared to Royal's [B](12 Ret, 194 yds, 16.2, 1TD, only 20+ yrd returns and just 1 return over 40.)[/B]

2011 KR's

Ginn: 29 Ret, 800 yds, [B]27.6 avg[/B], 102T, 1 TD

Royal : 3 Returns, 47 yds, 15.7 avg, [B]longest return just 20 yds[/B], 0 TD's


[B]Conclusion:[/B] Though Shanahan may like Royal because he was a Shanahan pick, Royal is inconsistent, and not the "best" "return, slot specialist" people are making him out to be. Compared to Royal, Ginn has been statistically better in almost every WR and return category, and what stood out about Ginn was his KR avg of 27.5 yds in 2011, where kicks moved up 5 yds, equating to more touchbacks. If we should sign another WR, it should be Ginn [B]not [/B]Royal.

Hog1 03-14-2012 08:47 PM

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I saw that....Jonesin a bit are ya'?

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-14-2012 08:52 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[quote=vallin21;898944]Ted Ginn Jr?... If Royal doesn't sign

Royal 2011: 19 rec 155 yds 1 td [B]8.6 ypc[/B]
Ginn 2011: 19 rec 220 yds [B]11.6 ypc [/B]

Royal and Ginn Jr had the same amount of receptions; but Ginn was able to gain close to 12 yds per catch, and was also a better Punt Returner:
[B](38 Returns, 466 yds, 12.3 average, 1 TD, [B]9[/B] 20+ yrd returns, and 3 returns over 40 yds.)[/B] Compared to Royal's [B](12 Ret, 194 yds, 16.2, 1TD, only 20+ yrd returns and just 1 return over 40.)[/B]

2011 KR's

Ginn: 29 Ret, 800 yds, [B]27.6 avg[/B], 102T, 1 TD

Royal : 3 Returns, 47 yds, 15.7 avg, [B]longest return just 20 yds[/B], 0 TD's


[B]Conclusion:[/B] Though Shanahan may like Royal because he was a Shanahan pick, Royal is inconsistent, and not the "best" "return, slot specialist" people are making him out to be. Compared to Royal, Ginn has been statistically better in almost every WR and return category, and what stood out about Ginn was his KR avg of 27.5 yds in 2011, where kicks moved up 5 yds, equating to more touchbacks. If we should sign another WR, it should be Ginn [B]not [/B]Royal.[/quote]


Fact is royal still had 91 catches for 980 yards as a rookie for Shanny. ginn has ever come close to that

44Deezel 03-14-2012 08:56 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;898946]Fact is royal still had 91 catches for 980 yards as a rookie for Shanny. ginn has ever come close to that[/quote]

Isn't Cutler openly campaigning for Royal?

44Deezel 03-14-2012 08:58 PM

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[quote=Giantone;898912]Same can be said for any reciever that Peyton Manning threw to.[/quote]

Precisely. And Steelers turned over WRs and won a second.

CultBrennan59 03-14-2012 09:01 PM

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[quote=44Deezel;898950]Isn't Cutler openly campaigning for Royal?[/quote]

Yes but he'd be competing with Hester, Knox, Bennet, Sanzanbacher, Roy Williams (he'll be cut), and of course BMarshall

vallin21 03-14-2012 09:16 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;898946]Fact is royal still had 91 catches for 980 yards as a rookie for Shanny. ginn has ever come close to that[/quote]

Yes, but neither has Royal since 2008... Not saying he's a bad player because he did have that 1 great '08 rookie year, but IMO he's not a better return specialist, and he's not the playmaker Ginn is after he catches the ball... Who's to say Ginn wouldn't have the same or better production than Royal? You could also say Shanahan's scheme/system is why Royal had that great rookie yr.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-14-2012 09:24 PM

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[QUOTE=vallin21;898960]Yes, but neither has Royal since 2008... Not saying he's a bad player because he did have that 1 great '08 rookie year, but IMO he's not a better return specialist, and he's not the playmaker Ginn is after he catches the ball... Who's to say Ginn wouldn't have the same or better production than Royal? You could also say Shanahan's scheme/system is why Royal had that great rookie yr.[/QUOTE]



To be fair to Royal, he has had Tebow throwing him the ball the last 2 years. I would prefer him to Ginn, who is just a returner to me.

ethat001 03-14-2012 09:24 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;898956]Yes but he'd be competing with Hester, Knox, Bennet, Sanzanbacher, Roy Williams (he'll be cut), and of course BMarshall[/quote]

And with the Redskins he'd be competing against Garcon, Morgan, Gaffney, Moss, Stallworth, Hankerson, N.Paul, Armstrong, .. Of course, he'd be closer to the top half of this list.

Does anyone know how we're doing this within the cap?? Just seems so mysterious we can get these deals done. Always wonder whether in addition to the cap money, the Redskin players get free access to Snyder's jet, dates with the cheerleaders... We're supposed to be running out of money, but are thinking about Grubbs, an LG, still need an RT, MLB/Fletcher, safety if Landry leaves, ?cornerback -- how do we do all this with negative cap money.. Guess we'll get some back if/when we drop Landry/Moss/etc..

vallin21 03-14-2012 09:37 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;898967]To be fair to Royal, he has had [B]Tebow[/B] throwing him the ball the last 2 years. I would prefer him to Ginn, who is just a returner to me.[/quote]

Very true... He will kill any WR's stats, value, and production... didn't take that into account

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-14-2012 09:46 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[QUOTE=ethat001;898968]And with the Redskins he'd be competing against Garcon, Morgan, Gaffney, Moss, Stallworth, Hankerson, N.Paul, Armstrong, .. Of course, he'd be closer to the top half of this list.



Does anyone know how we're doing this within the cap?? Just seems so mysterious we can get these deals done. Always wonder whether in addition to the cap money, the Redskin players get free access to Snyder's jet, dates with the cheerleaders... We're supposed to be running out of money, but are thinking about Grubbs, an LG, still need an RT, MLB/Fletcher, safety if Landry leaves, ?cornerback -- how do we do all this with negative cap money.. Guess we'll get some back if/when we drop Landry/Moss/etc..[/QUOTE]



Stallworth-Gone, Gaffney-Probably Gone, Moss-Could be gone

Garcon/Hankerson/Morgan/Royal/Paul/Robinson could be our opening day WRs.

skinsfaninok 03-14-2012 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;898992]Stallworth-Gone, Gaffney-Probably Gone, Moss-Could be gone

Garcon/Hankerson/Morgan/Royal/Paul/Robinson could be our opening day WRs.[/QUOTE]

I'm starting to think royal won't sign, also don't rule out lloyd as a possibility

DynamiteRave 03-14-2012 09:52 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;898997]I'm starting to think royal won't sign, also don't rule out lloyd as a possibility[/quote]

Which Lloyd? Not Brandon Lloyd...?

skinsfaninok 03-14-2012 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;899002]Which Lloyd? Not Brandon Lloyd...?[/QUOTE]

I heard it on ESPN radio earlier that he's a possibly but I haven't seen SS report it

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-14-2012 09:57 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;898997]I'm starting to think royal won't sign, also don't rule out lloyd as a possibility[/QUOTE]



Don't say that to me.

MTK 03-14-2012 09:59 PM

[QUOTE=ethat001;898968]And with the Redskins he'd be competing against Garcon, Morgan, Gaffney, Moss, Stallworth, Hankerson, N.Paul, Armstrong, .. Of course, he'd be closer to the top half of this list.

Does anyone know how we're doing this within the cap?? Just seems so mysterious we can get these deals done. Always wonder whether in addition to the cap money, the Redskin players get free access to Snyder's jet, dates with the cheerleaders... We're supposed to be running out of money, but are thinking about Grubbs, an LG, still need an RT, MLB/Fletcher, safety if Landry leaves, ?cornerback -- how do we do all this with negative cap money.. Guess we'll get some back if/when we drop Landry/Moss/etc..[/QUOTE]

Negative cap money?

We had $18.5 of room coming into free agency.


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mooby 03-14-2012 09:59 PM

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;898914]You like Morgan at 6mil per season? I sure as hell don't.[/QUOTE]

I'm starting to believe that you don't like anyone at any amount of money for any season.

mooby 03-14-2012 10:03 PM

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;898925]What do you like? Because it seems like it's nothing.[/QUOTE]

Boy I'm late. Give credit where it's due, Quake you called this one lol.

SkinzWin 03-14-2012 10:03 PM

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[quote=mooby;899011]I'm starting to believe that you don't like anyone at any amount of money for any season.[/quote]

That's what I've been saying all along!

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/46979-redskins-add-wrs-pierre-garcon-joshua-14.html#post897877[/url]

Henceforth, skinsfan69 shall be know forever more throughout the land as....

negativeNancy69

gangstalicious 03-14-2012 10:15 PM

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Josh Morgan isn't getting 6 mil/year

DynamiteRave 03-14-2012 10:19 PM

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[quote=gangstalicious;899020]Josh Morgan isn't getting 6 mil/year[/quote]

Your screen name makes me long for new episodes of The Boondocks.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-14-2012 10:46 PM

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I love this 1st post.

TheSmurfs22 03-14-2012 10:49 PM

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Royal wants to be a skin but more money and a different opportunity is coming his way from "San Diego which means a whales vagina"[/QUOTE]

I have family in SD and whenever we talk all I can think of is A Whale's vagina. Great movie!

I like Scotch!

Ruhskins 03-14-2012 10:54 PM

[QUOTE=TheSmurfs22;899037]Royal wants to be a skin but more money and a different opportunity is coming his way from "San Diego which means a whales vagina"[/QUOTE]

I have family in SD and whenever we talk all I can think of is A Whale's vagina. Great movie!

I like Scotch![/QUOTE]

WTF?

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skinsfaninok 03-14-2012 10:56 PM

[url]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/garcons-deal-comes-close-to-deseans/[/url]

DynamiteRave 03-14-2012 10:56 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[quote=TheSmurfs22;899037]Royal wants to be a skin but more money and a different opportunity is coming his way from "San Diego which means a whales vagina"
I have family in SD and whenever we talk all I can think of is A Whale's vagina. Great movie!

I like Scotch![/quote]

It's so damn hot.

Milk was a bad choice.

CultBrennan59 03-14-2012 11:05 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[quote=TheSmurfs22;899037]Royal wants to be a skin but more money and a different opportunity is coming his way from "San Diego which means a whales vagina"

I have family in SD and whenever we talk all I can think of is A Whale's vagina. Great movie!

I like Scotch![/quote]

Haha apparently other people here have been watching too much star wars and family guy and not enough Anchorman!

Knights of Columbus that hurt!

SirClintonPortis 03-14-2012 11:13 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[quote=TheSmurfs22;899037]Royal wants to be a skin but more money and a different opportunity is coming his way from "San Diego which means a whales vagina"[/quote]

I have family in SD and whenever we talk all I can think of is A Whale's vagina. Great movie!

I like Scotch![/QUOTE]

Royal has a chance at winning the #1 or #2 spot in San Diego.

44Deezel 03-14-2012 11:21 PM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[quote=TheSmurfs22;899037]Royal wants to be a skin but more money and a different opportunity is coming his way from "San Diego which means a whales vagina"[/quote]

I have family in SD and whenever we talk all I can think of is A Whale's vagina. Great movie!

I like Scotch![/QUOTE]

Can't understand why he'd want to be the #4 WR in San Diego???

vallin21 03-14-2012 11:42 PM

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If Royal signs w/ SD I wouldn't care... Ted Ginn IMO is better WR, returner, and option player... Ginn, Garcon, Morgan, Hank, would be just as good if not better than if Royal came here

artmonkforhallofamein07 03-15-2012 12:15 AM

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Why are we talking about Ginn?

Meks 03-15-2012 12:20 AM

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Great Oden's Raven!

itvnetop 03-15-2012 12:23 AM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;899022]Your screen name makes me long for new episodes of The Boondocks.[/quote]

Where is Thugnificent??

vallin21 03-15-2012 12:34 AM

re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;899069]Why are we talking about Ginn?[/quote]

He's a FA... and if Royal doesn't sign here, he should be a person we should look at (IMO)

Dirtbag59 03-15-2012 01:38 AM

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Why haven't we resigned Anthony Mix?

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-15-2012 02:13 AM

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^ Or Marco Mitchell.


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