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I wonder if Bruce and Jay are sniffing around Jace Amaro.

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;1070894]I'd say no to Kouandijo and his knees. I lineman with knee issues, I don't like it but hey. Whoever they take I just hope it works out.[/quote]

Not to be argumentative, but was there ever a comparable player with the same or similiar condition?

It's just a situation where the Redskins need to do their due diligence and weigh the known risks with draft position/round.

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Worth posting again

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24470778/dr-james-andrews-says-no-issues-with-cyrus-kouandjios-knee]Dr. James Andrews says no issues with Cyrus Kouandjio's knee - CBSSports.com[/url]

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My brain says Moses, going into the season with Polumbus really shouldn't be an option, but as a Badger I would love to draft Chris Borland, team would get a reliable and intelligent leader. If still an option, I would love to swap something like cousins and our 4th to get another second rounder and take both.

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[quote=cdskins26;1070910]My brain says Moses, going into the season with Polumbus really shouldn't be an option, but as a Badger I would love to draft Chris Borland, team would get a reliable and intelligent leader. If still an option, I would love to swap something like cousins and our 4th to get another second rounder and take both.[/quote]


No need. Borland will be there in the 3rd or even the 4th round.

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[quote=warriorzpath;1070906]Not to be argumentative, but was there ever a comparable player with the same or similiar condition?

It's just a situation where the Redskins need to do their due diligence and weigh the known risks with draft position/round.[/quote]

the comparison that jumps out to me is chris samuels and his stenosis.

different pre-existing injuries but it seems both have been told they could play 1 year or 10 years in the NFL, no one can be sure how long.

i havent read the dr andrews article matty linked and am going to do that now.

from the andrews article:

"These types of patterns are real common on those big guys, real common.

"He has a little bit of cartilage wear in his knee, but that's such a common finding in an NFL draft-able player,

my impression - andrews is showing bias to the Alabama program and perhaps a player he got to know as a person and likes. i dont buy that his wear and tear is common - if it was, id assume many more OTs would also have the same chirping going on about their condition.

it sounds like he has the same problem as bowen and other NFL vets - bad knees. only problem is this kid isnt an NFL vet and at his size, the problem (swelling, loss of stability) is only going to get worse .. not better.

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Okay who is better Moses or Kouandjio? No favorites why is one better than the other at tackle?
Anyone have an idea?

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Looking at some reports on Moses and Kouandijo, just on performance - Moses appears to be the better prospect. Moses was more consistent in 2013 than Kouandijo.

[QUOTE=over the mountain;1070848]im not a big fan of moving down too much or just moving down to move down.



id personally rather have a 2nd rounder vs 2 4th rounders.



i dont mind moving down a few spots but i want to walk away from the draft with at least one penciled-in starter vs a handful of potential contributors.



go get talent.



talent wins.[/QUOTE]


Totally agree with this.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1070879]I wouldn't be unhappy at all with Kouandijo or Moses, or Su'a-Filo at #34.[/QUOTE]


You dont think that any of them can be really good, or you just dont want an olineman?
Edit: nevermind. I read happy not unhappy.

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[quote=over the mountain;1070917]the comparison that jumps out to me is chris samuels and his stenosis.

different pre-existing injuries but it seems both have been told they could play 1 year or 10 years in the NFL, no one can be sure how long.

i havent read the dr andrews article matty linked and am going to do that now.

from the andrews article:

"These types of patterns are real common on those big guys, real common.

"He has a little bit of cartilage wear in his knee, but that's such a common finding in an NFL draft-able player,

my impression - andrews is showing bias to the Alabama program and perhaps a player he got to know as a person and likes. i dont buy that his wear and tear is common - if it was, id assume many more OTs would also have the same chirping going on about their condition.

it sounds like he has the same problem as bowen and other NFL vets - bad knees. only problem is this kid isnt an NFL vet and at his size, the problem (swelling, loss of stability) is only going to get worse .. not better.[/quote]

The article says he's had no swelling, no pain or ongoing issues.

The injury happened in his freshman year, seems to me he'd be having issues even just practicing let alone playing if the surgery was botched. He didn't miss any games the last 2 years and not even a practice.

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Yeah, I don't think Andrews would go out on a limb for the guy if he didn't believe he was healthy. Why, so the guy can make more money? A lie wouldn't change his condition, it would only hurt Andrews credibility.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1070904]I wonder if Bruce and Jay are sniffing around Jace Amaro.[/quote]

They should. He's wearing Chanel #5 today. :)

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On a different topic, still tangentially related (yes I just wanted to say tangentially), I love the break between rounds 1 and 2. I love being able to go over possible trade scenarios, rehash the first round. And I really love that the teams get a chance to reset their boards, really look at what they want to do with their picks, and what value they want to get or give for the trades.

I can't say I would be a favor of drawing it out any more, because I think the break between round 1 and 2 has the most fan intrigue, and team dynamics.

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[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/report-redskins-are-getting-offers-their-top-pick-tonight]Report: Redskins are getting offers for their top pick tonight | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

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[quote=SirLK26;1070929][URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/report-redskins-are-getting-offers-their-top-pick-tonight"]Report: Redskins are getting offers for their top pick tonight | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/URL][/quote]

Trade that shit! There are a bunch of trench players I'd be happy with at this spot. Drop back 6-10 spots and still get someone just as good.

Moses, Kouandjio, Robinson, Hageman, Truitt, take your pick they all could help us

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I don't see y some want us to get Amaro? Isn't Reed legit?

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[quote=Mattyk;1070879]I wouldn't be unhappy at all with Kouandijo or Moses, or Su'a-Filo at #34.[/quote]I would be very surprised if we didn't select one of them at #34. Keeping RG3 protected should take precedent over spending our top pick on defense.

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Tackles > Guards and Bigger > Smaller; therefore, Kuanjio or Moses > S'ua-Filo or Bitonio.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1070933]I don't see y some want us to get Amaro? Isn't Reed legit?[/quote]

I'm happy with many folks and am not pushing Amaro.

Of course Reed is legit. But he also has injury flags. And, at any rate, having two stud TE's really helps the passing game - just ask Tom Brady.

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[quote=Schneed10;1070932]Trade that shit! There are a bunch of trench players I'd be happy with at this spot. Drop back 6-10 spots and still get someone just as good.

Moses, Kouandjio, Robinson, Hageman, Truitt, take your pick they all could help us[/quote]

From the article: "Ian Rapoport of NFL.com reported this afternoon that the Cowboys are looking to make a “big move up” in the second round tonight. Dallas holds the 15th pick of the second round. If you use the draft trade value chart as a guide, Jerry should have to hand over the Cowboys’ fourth-round pick to move up to the second pick of the round."

Help Jerrah fix his defense by moving back 13 spots and accepting a fourth rounder in return? Not just no but [U]Hell No![/U]

I'd only trade down a few places with someone other than Dallas and then I'd have to be bending them over in the process. Otherwise, I'm drafting my new RT at #34.

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Teams are foaming at the mouth for round two. Hopefully we take advantage........36 minutes

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How many rounds of the draft are happening today? Is it just round 2 or 2 and 3?

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2 & 3

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I want a non-injury prone Tre Johnson type guard on this team, a nasty bastard with a chip on his shoulder.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1070947]I want a non-injury prone Tre Johnson type guard on this team, a nasty bastard with a chip on his shoulder.[/quote]

100% this! Easily one of my favorite offensive lineman for the Skins in the last twenty years. Tre was a beast coming around the corner on swing and counter tre running plays.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1070947]I want a non-injury prone Tre Johnson type guard on this team, a nasty bastard with a chip on his shoulder.[/quote]

Sua-Fila is the one you want. I would like him as well.

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[quote=Skinzman;1070949]Sua-Fila is the one you want. I would like him as well.[/quote]

That's what I was getting at, want some FILO pancakes.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1070933]I don't see y some want us to get Amaro? Isn't Reed legit?[/quote]

Reed is legit, adding another TE who is bigger and faster than Reed could make the offense very hard to stop. There will be good O-lineman available in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

imagine trying to stop an offense with WRs Jackson, + Garson. TEs Reed, + Amaro and Morris

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[quote=Irrefutable;1070951]Reed is legit, adding another TE who is bigger and faster than Reed could make the offense very hard to stop. There will be good O-lineman available in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

imagine trying to stop an offense with WRs Jackson, + Garson. TEs Reed, + Amaro and Morris[/quote]

our offense won't be legit if the qb gets hammered by bad RT play. We have the playmakers we need for a top 10 offense (even if Reed goes down during the season), we need a RT that can backpedal and pass protect. And I hope that's what we are going to get.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1070952]our offense won't be legit if the qb gets hammered by bad RT play. We have the playmakers we need for a top 10 offense (even if Reed goes down during the season), we need a RT that can backpedal and pass protect. And I hope that's what we are going to get.[/quote]

Have to agree with you CRR!
The last time we had bookend tackles was Samuels and Jansen!
Common guys!

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i'm all for taking the OL we have rated highest at 34 as opposed to moving back X spots and taking whoever falls to us

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My prediction is DT Louis Nix III. I know not a big area of need but I think they will consider him too good to pass up at this spot.

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I'm team Su'a-Filo. At least for another 20 minutes.

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[quote=81forHOF;1070956]My prediction is DT Louis Nix III. I know not a big area of need but I think they will consider him too good to pass up at this spot.[/quote]

I hope I hope

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You move Compton to RT (it is his 3rd year and should be ready) Compton supposedly has a nasty attitude and Filo.

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How about Morgan Moses?

Damn. They better get talent at 47. Cus we could have really bolstered our oline at 34.

Dang that sucks o well

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the first two picks been dummy picks. The players we covet are still on the board. We get 3 picks in close proximity.