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[quote=Chico23231;1064944][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10644839/matt-schaub-expected-traded-oakland-raiders-houston-texans]Matt Schaub expected to be traded to Oakland Raiders from Houston Texans - ESPN[/url]

IN YOUR FACE KYLE![/quote]

Nice to see Schaub getting to spend out his remaining few years at Shady Grove Retirement Village .

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[quote=SirLK26;1064981]I disagree with your second paragraph; a 15 yard defensive PI penalty is a bad idea. One example why: Garcon is 50 yards out, running a deep route. Brandon Carr is trying futilely to cover, but is too far behind to play the ball. So he dives at Garcon and tackles him before Garcon has a chance to haul in the pass. Carr, in this hypothetical situation, would be doing the right thing for his team, since the 15 yard defensive PI penalty would be better than the 50 yard completion. Whereas how defensive PI is penalized now, that wouldn't happen, since the ball is placed where the infraction happens.[/quote]

While i agree with the spot foul on PI, i really hate when its 3 and 30 and a 2 yard deep def holding can give a first down.

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[quote=Chico23231;1064944][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10644839/matt-schaub-expected-traded-oakland-raiders-houston-texans]Matt Schaub expected to be traded to Oakland Raiders from Houston Texans - ESPN[/url]

IN YOUR FACE KYLE![/quote]

Although he had an atrocious year last year and has never been elite, overall Schaub has been a very capable starting QB, with a career QBR of 89.8. I think Oakland is getting a steal.

As for Cleveland, I won't cry if they finish last in total offense.

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Oakland seems to be building up for a run in 2014, which would make little sense in the NFC. In the AFC, it might work.

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[quote=Lotus;1064999]Although he had an atrocious year last year and has never been elite, overall Schaub has been a very capable starting QB, with a career QBR of 89.8. I think Oakland is getting a steal.[/quote]



Considering KC gave up two 2nd rounders for shitty Alex Smith, and yet the Raiders got Schaub for a late round pick? Hell of a steal.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1064677][url=http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/source-eagles-want-least-3rd-round-pick-desean-jackson]Source: Eagles want at least 3rd-round pick for DeSean Jackson | Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia[/url]

Guess they are getting real tired of DJ's shit.[/quote]

Sub-headline: Eagle Fans Demand 5 First Round Picks.

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Any team giving Philly more than a late round draft pick is insane. He's got a pretty big contract, I think it's 10M this yr and he's inconsistent as f*ck. He'll disappear for entire games. Sure he's a big play threat but that's about it. I know he was productive last year but.....he's got an attitude problem, which is probably why Philly is shopping him, and he constantly makes comments about how he's unsatisfied with his contract. His MO on that is to quit, 2 yrs ago. Maybe makes sense for a team that has all the pieces in place and is looking for one more piece to put them over the hump but he's not a fit for a team looking for a #1, maybe even #2. Very glad the Skins do have the money to even think about him.

[QUOTE=ICantGoAnother20yrsOfCrap;1065028]Any team giving Philly more than a late round draft pick is insane. He's got a pretty big contract, I think it's 10M this yr and he's inconsistent as f*ck. He'll disappear for entire games. Sure he's a big play threat but that's about it. I know he was productive last year but.....he's got an attitude problem, which is probably why Philly is shopping him, and he constantly makes comments about how he's unsatisfied with his contract. His MO on that is to quit, 2 yrs ago. Maybe makes sense for a team that has all the pieces in place and is looking for one more piece to put them over the hump but he's not a fit for a team looking for a #1, maybe even #2. Very glad the Skins do have the money to even think about him.[/QUOTE]


It is alot of money, and he is a diva. However i think you are selling him short talent wise. Dont get me wrong i am a Desean Jackson hater, but the guy is a big time player that could put more than one team over the top as far as a serious championship contender imo.

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He would take Den, NE, SEA, and SF to another level, and carolina just flat out needs him because after they released smith they really don't have many options.

I think he ends ups in NYJ.

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;1065059]He would take Den, NE, SEA, and SF to another level, and carolina just flat out needs him because after they released smith they really don't have many options.



I think he ends ups in NYJ.[/QUOTE]


Him and Vick. I could see that. He could take San Diego to another level too.

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So say Philly releases him outright ... anybody going to pay him 10.5M this year? Maybe but I doubt it.

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1065071]So say Philly releases him outright ... anybody going to pay him 10.5M this year? Maybe but I doubt it.[/QUOTE]

Oakland ought to. Jets would if they could make it work with their cap.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1065072]Oakland ought to. Jets would if they could make it work with their cap.[/quote]

Hopefully the Raiders will take him so he can earn his $$$ but be out of our division. As you said, the Jets may not be able to manage the $$$ part.

Oakland has had a good OS. Schuab will do well out there

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1065071]So say Philly releases him outright ... anybody going to pay him 10.5M this year? Maybe but I doubt it.[/quote]

Carolina maybe, did they ever pick up anyone to replace Steve Smith?

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/23/roddy-white-tries-to-get-out-of-march-madness-season-ticket-bet/]Roddy White tries to get out of March Madness season-ticket bet | ProFootballTalk[/url]

There goes Roddy White on twitter again

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^ Dude better pay up, pretty lame how he's already trying to back out.

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Yeah, pretty classless of White to make that bet (even if it was one-sided) and then not pay up.

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These arrogant guys always claiming "baller status" and when it comes to pay up, they always trying to back out.

#noclass

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[quote=mooby;1065122]Carolina maybe, did they ever pick up anyone to replace Steve Smith?[/quote]

They wont pay him that, but they signed Jerricho Cotchery and Taiquain Underwood

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Enjoy the NFL while you can since Mark Cuban says it will be dead in 10 years.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cuban-nfl-10-years-imploding-152605631--nfl.html"]http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cuban-nfl-10-years-imploding-152605631--nfl.html[/URL]

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Cuban makes some good points though. Also nobody ever imagined MLB being dead and now its a forgotten sport

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[quote=Lotus;1065236]Enjoy the NFL while you can since Mark Cuban says it will be dead in 10 years.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cuban-nfl-10-years-imploding-152605631--nfl.html"]http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cuban-nfl-10-years-imploding-152605631--nfl.html[/URL][/quote]

Cuban is spot on. Greed will catch up with the NFL sooner or later. We can already see the Thursday games are borderline dreadful. Then we have these games over in London which is a stupid idea. And eventually we're going to have 14 teams in the playoffs and 18 regular season games, plus some Sat games at the end of the year. It will be watered down by then. Who wants see 8-8 teams in the playoffs? I blame the owners cause they're greedy and money hungry. Goodell is perfect guy for them as he's their 30 mil a year puppet. Eventually the ratings will slip. They just can't leave the damn game alone.

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And please, no one say, "well Arizona was 10-6 and didn't make it!" That's a bunch of BS. We all know more times than not that we're going to see a lot 8-8, 7-9 teams make it, over 10-6 teams. 7 teams in each conference making the playoffs is a terrible idea.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1065263]Cuban is spot on. Greed will catch up with the NFL sooner or later. We can already see the Thursday games are borderline dreadful. Then we have these games over in London which is a stupid idea. And eventually we're going to have 14 teams in the playoffs and 18 regular season games, plus some Sat games at the end of the year. It will be watered down by then. Who wants see 8-8 teams in the playoffs? I blame the owners cause they're greedy and money hungry. Goodell is perfect guy for them as he's their 30 mil a year puppet. Eventually the ratings will slip. They just can't leave the damn game alone.[/quote]

Cuban is right, the NFL is going to violate the basic principle of "supply and demand" (it's amazing how many businesses/governments/jackasses ignore this law). You're a poon if you think the availability/quantity of your product leads to long term growth. Evolve, change, innovate, whatever the hell you want to call it, you have to do something to increase your market share to avoid a plateau or plummet. The NFL is trying to do this by raping the core of it's product. The NBA sucks and is definitely not the model but Cuban is on point. He definitely wants part of the NFL though..

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1065265]And please, no one say, "well Arizona was 10-6 and didn't make it!" That's a bunch of BS. We all know more times than not that we're going to see a lot 8-8, 7-9 teams make it, over 10-6 teams. 7 teams in each conference making the playoffs is a terrible idea.[/QUOTE]
The last 5 years don't seem to agree with you. Between 2009 and 2013 if 7 teams made the playoffs the 7th team's record would have broken down like this:
3 10-6 teams; '13Ari,'12Chi,'10NYG
4 9-7 teams; '09Hou, '09Atl, '10SD, '11Ten
3 8-8 teams; '12Pit, '13Pit, 'Chi

In 3 of the 5 years (2010,11,13) at least 1 division champ had a record worse than the 7th seed would have and in 2010 2 teams were better than the 7-9 NFCW champs Sea.
In no case would a sub .500 team have been the 7th seed.

Edit. I decided to go back to 2000 on NFL.com and without tallying it the results were inline with the numbers above. And all the way back to 2000 not one 7-9 or lower team would have been the 7th seed. Ever.

As for Cuban's remarks, its hilarious to me that an NBA owner with 82 regular season games per team is going to lecture the NFL. Every team's fan still has only 16 games to watch and hope their team does some good. When the other games are on matters less but if they are scheduled right you will still tune in because you want to see how the competition is doing.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1065269]The last 5 years don't seem to agree with you. Between 2009 and 2013 if 7 teams made the playoffs the 7th team's record would have broken down like this:
3 10-6 teams; '13Ari,'12Chi,'10NYG
4 9-7 teams; '09Hou, '09Atl, '10SD, '11Ten
[B]3 8-8 teams; '12Pit, '13Pit, 'Chi[/B]

In 3 of the 5 years (2010,11,13) at least 1 division champ had a record worse than the 7th seed would have and in 2010 2 teams were better than the 7-9 NFCW champs Sea.
In no case would a sub .500 team have been the 7th seed.

Edit. I decided to go back to 2000 on NFL.com and without tallying it the results were inline with the numbers above. And all the way back to 2000 not one 7-9 or lower team would have been the 7th seed. Ever.[/quote]

Did anyone honestly want to see any of those teams in the playoffs? Chicago's defense was worse than ours. Pittsburgh was the definition of average. Neither deserved to be in the playoffs. The owners just need to leave the damn game alone. It's already watered down as it is.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1065281]Did anyone honestly want to see any of those teams in the playoffs? Chicago's defense was worse than ours. Pittsburgh was the definition of average. Neither deserved to be in the playoffs. The owners just need to leave the damn game alone. It's already watered down as it is.[/QUOTE]

Since it is clear that the 7th seed would historically be on par with or better than at least the 4th division champ the added competition would be excellent. I am confident that the fans of that 10-6 cardinals wanted to see their team in the playoffs. And I certainly remember when the 11-5 Patriots missed the playoffs. Pretty certain a game pitting them against the 2nd seed that year would have been extremely entertaining..

Point is the 7th team isn't always, or even mostly, a floundering team. Its often a very good team in a very competitive division/conference.

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Plus we've seen some teams that finish 8-8 or 9-7 do some serious damage in the playoffs.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1065269]The last 5 years don't seem to agree with you. Between 2009 and 2013 if 7 teams made the playoffs the 7th team's record would have broken down like this:
3 10-6 teams; '13Ari,'12Chi,'10NYG
4 9-7 teams; '09Hou, '09Atl, '10SD, '11Ten
3 8-8 teams; '12Pit, '13Pit, 'Chi

In 3 of the 5 years (2010,11,13) at least 1 division champ had a record worse than the 7th seed would have and in 2010 2 teams were better than the 7-9 NFCW champs Sea.
In no case would a sub .500 team have been the 7th seed.

Edit. I decided to go back to 2000 on NFL.com and without tallying it the results were inline with the numbers above. And all the way back to 2000 not one 7-9 or lower team would have been the 7th seed. Ever.[/quote]

Good breakdown. Surely the NFL has crunched all the numbers as well and know exactly what they're getting by adding another playoff team.

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Man, heartbreaking

[url=http://www.jillk.org/journal/2014/03/21/meeting-jason/]Meeting Jason… « Jill Kelly[/url]

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Is that Snyder listening to Idzik?

daniel kaplan ‏@dkaplanSBJ 7m
NY football press crowding around Jets GM Idzik in the hallways at the NFL owners meeting
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjlstsYIYAEPk47.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1065338]Is that Snyder listening to Idzik?

daniel kaplan ‏@dkaplanSBJ 7m
NY football press crowding around Jets GM Idzik in the hallways at the NFL owners meeting
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjlstsYIYAEPk47.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

With the glasses? Looks like Bob Glauber (hate him) to me

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Bills Owner Ralph Wilson has died

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[quote=SmootSmack;1065349]Bills Owner Ralph Wilson has died[/quote]

damn, alot of bad news for Bills fans today.

And why do you hate Tom Crean's(hate him) doppleganger?

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[quote=Chico23231;1065351]damn, alot of bad news for Bills fans today.

And why do you hate Tom Crean's(hate him) doppleganger?[/quote]

I don't know. He just annoys me the few times I've met him

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Wow, the no No Fun League is rearing its head again.
No more dunking.
If you dunk the football over the crossbar it will now be a penalty.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1065359]Wow, the no No Fun League is rearing its head again.
No more dunking.
If you dunk the football over the crossbar it will now be a penalty.[/quote]

Why does the NFL even care about this? Aren't there more important things on their agenda than thinking about a celebration that hurts anything probably once a season? Few fans will support it, and it'll impact the overall product in a very minute way. Seems like a waste of time. Here's the link:

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/nfl-flag-goalpost-dunk-celebrations]NFL to flag goalpost dunk celebrations | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]


While on CSN Washington, I came across this article:

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/harbaugh-jay-gruden-hes-excellent-coach]Harbaugh on Jay Gruden: He's an excellent coach | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1065301]Since it is clear that the 7th seed would historically be on par with or better than at least the 4th division champ the added competition would be excellent. I am confident that the fans of that 10-6 cardinals wanted to see their team in the playoffs. And I certainly remember when the 11-5 Patriots missed the playoffs. Pretty certain a game pitting them against the 2nd seed that year would have been extremely entertaining..

Point is the 7th team isn't always, or even mostly, a floundering team. Its often a very good team in a very competitive division/conference.[/quote]

Some years you're going to have a 10-6 not make it, and the rare occasion an 11-5 team not make it. It's not a perfect system. But more times than not, we're going to see a team like last years Steelers get in. No desire to watch that. Just waters it down too much for me.