Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1066718]I don't think that is a good thing, mainly because of what Lotus keeps saying. If he has to sleep on it now, then next year he won't be happy.

I am not saying we need to blow him away, but it needs to be structured to give him a way to know he will be happy.[/quote]

Maybe the $$$ aren't what he thought they would be so they told him u need to think about the part u played in this.

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[url=http://cover32.com/redskins/2014/04/01/report-desean-jackson-washington-redskins-make-a-deal/]REPORT: DeSean Jackson, Washington Redskins make a deal | Washington Redskins[/url]

Don't know them.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1066723][url=http://cover32.com/redskins/2014/04/01/report-desean-jackson-washington-redskins-make-a-deal/]REPORT: DeSean Jackson, Washington Redskins make a deal | Washington Redskins[/url]

Don't know them.[/quote]

Eh, it seems like this is the second time those sources have made that claim.

Lake Lewis Jr ‏@LakeLewis 7h
@DaveOwensWUSA I was told its a done deal. I pressed and was told he wants to be here and it was done. #DJaxInDC
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I'm guessing with a story as big as this everyone wants to be credited with the ones who 'break the news.'

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[quote=Lotus;1066703]He doesn't need a morals clause because he's never been in that kind of trouble. Instead he needs these two clauses:

1) No constant whining for a raise and pouting like a child when you don't get it clause
and
2) He must study with a coach who will teach him a new word: T-E-A-M.[/quote]

Yeah. The only thing that concerns me, if, Jackson signs is possible gang connections. Until he got cut from the Eagles I never heard that about him or any legal troubles.

That being said I find it unsettling a talented player getting cut in a non-contract year?

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[quote=Bishop Hammer;1066725]Yeah. The only thing that concerns me, if, Jackson signs is possible gang connections. Until he got cut from the Eagles I never heard that about him or any legal troubles.

That being said I find it unsettling a talented player getting cut in a non-contract year?[/quote]

The gang connections allegation is loose at best. Nobody has any proof of any ties with gangs. I think that was just a way of throwing DJ under the bus. I think Eagles just got tired of paying him big money.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1066724]Eh, it seems like this is the second time those sources have made that claim.

Lake Lewis Jr ‏@LakeLewis 7h
@DaveOwensWUSA I was told its a done deal. I pressed and was told he wants to be here and it was done. #DJaxInDC
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I'm guessing with a story as big as this everyone wants to be credited with the ones who 'break the news.'[/quote]

Ain't that the truth you have a 50% chance of being right.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=Bishop Hammer;1066725]Yeah. The only thing that concerns me, if, Jackson signs is possible gang connections. Until he got cut from the Eagles I never heard that about him or any legal troubles.

That being said I find it unsettling a talented player getting cut in a non-contract year?[/quote]

Well lets get one thing straight. This signing would come with plenty of risk. From tying up cap space to one day finding yourself caught by surprise the same way the Falcons were when Vick got arrested for running an illegal gambling operation. It's very possible the gang ties are blown completely out of proportion if not in fact completely non-existent. However the fact remains that the bell has been rung so at the very least it will be something to watch out for down the line.

Then of course there are the complaints from Eagle fans about tardiness, lack of effort, blah blah blah. Though I'm fine to put it under sour grapes many of us, myself included, ignored similar complaints from Philly fans about McNabb.

Now with that said I want Desean to play for the Skins. I've seen the kind of impact Jones and White have had with Ryan in Atlanta and I can only imagine that the same type of supporting cast would only be beneficial to RG3's development.

Also as much as I would love to see upgrades all across the line save for LT the fact remains that this line is nearly as bad as it has been in years past when it was virtually neglected. For starters they are among the best in the league when it comes to run blocking, at least when we're running zone. Also from what I understand Gruden's system is designed to get the ball out quick and limit hits to the QB so at the very least that should go a long way towards fixing the pass protection problems. After all if Shanhan's running game can make running backs look better then they really are whats to stop a playbook employing numerous 3 step drops to improve pass protection?

Of course all of this speculation until we see the actual on field product.
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Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

I say this is going to go beyond 24 hrs. Apparently both parties want to make a deal, but it's clear both are playing the market. DJax wants to see the market, BA is happy to let him do it so if he signs it's not a Vinny contract. He probably schedules visits with Oakland and Buffalo in the next few days. Honestly, if we sign him, I'd prefer we sign him after those visits b/c he didn't like their offers. Probably not going to happen but would be the best scenario for the Skins. Means his asking price is too high.

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he's like aldrick robinson but good.

it sounds like it's not going to be the one year deal i hoped for, oh well.

we haven't restructured any contracts this offseason, is that correct?

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1066713]Those are the kind of photos that get a mofo fired.[/quote]


No, those are the kind of photos that get the person that posted them railed by others for not being management material. :laughing-

[QUOTE=los panda;1066734]he's like aldrick robinson but good.



it sounds like it's not going to be the one year deal i hoped for, oh well.



we haven't restructured any contracts this offseason, is that correct?[/QUOTE]


Maybe that is part of the hold up?

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

I can't believe this thread on D Jackson is 39 pages already within two days.

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DJax is staying overnight. Guess that is a good sign.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1066737]I can't believe this thread on D Jackson is 39 pages already within two days.[/quote]

I can't believe that it's not butter.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

If we had to give the deal that DJ reportedly wants, $9 million to $10 million a year. [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/31/desean-jackson-wont-come-cheap/"](LINK)[/URL], then f our front office. Same old Skins.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=los panda;1066734]he's like aldrick robinson but good.

it sounds like it's not going to be the one year deal i hoped for, oh well.

we haven't restructured any contracts this offseason, is that correct?[/quote]

Freaking useless Canadian. Where is our cap guy when we need him. Might I suggest we fire him and hire someone in a particular [URL="http://youtu.be/_wR3LhFlgGo"]southeast Asian country[/URL] across the pond? God only knows where [URL="http://youtu.be/Iz-8CSa9xj8"]Schnedgal[/URL] is this time of day. Probably at some brothel team building exercise sponsored by the IRS.

[quote=NC_Skins;1066737]I can't believe this thread on D Jackson is 39 pages already within two days.[/quote]

Well to be fair half of those pages are pictures of a certain Marvel super hero. Warpath will probably get shut down soon thanks to SOPA.....Oh wait I forgot SOPA didn't get passed in this timeline.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=chewman;1066738]DJax is staying overnight. Guess that is a good sign.[/quote]

I get the top bunk.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=chewman;1066738]DJax is staying overnight. Guess that is a good sign.[/quote]

Definitely. Maybe they'll work the kinks out in the morning.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;1066741] Well to be fair half of those pages are pictures of a certain Marvel super hero. Warpath will probably get shut down soon thanks to SOPA.....Oh wait I forgot SOPA didn't get passed in [B]this timeline[/B].[/quote]

Multiverse theory

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1066743]Definitely. Maybe they'll work the kinks out in the morning.[/quote]

Maybe it was right earlier neither side wanted to be the butt of April Fools jokes. At 1130pm yesterday, it was a done deal, but then 12:01 came, and now we gotta wait till April 2nd.

Man - SS and Matty shoulda started a Warpath fight over DJax signing as a tie-in April fools joke.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

Dosent team activities begin april 7th.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1066744]Multiverse theory[/quote]

Yeah, only problem is to stay awake during interdimensional travel I require generous amounts of Cocaine to stay up. Luckily it hasn't affected the quality of my posts.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1066737]I can't believe this thread on D Jackson is 39 pages already within two days.[/QUOTE]


Was just thinking the same thing

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

To be fair, this thread was created on the 29th.

[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1066740]If we had to give the deal that DJ reportedly wants, $9 million to $10 million a year. [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/31/desean-jackson-wont-come-cheap/"](LINK)[/URL], then f our front office. Same old Skins.[/QUOTE]


Except that he is a proven commodity in the prime of his career. This isnt deion, bruce smith, archuleta, mcnabb, etc etc etc etc

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;1066749]Yeah, only problem is to stay awake during interdimensional travel I require generous amounts of Cocaine to stay up. Luckily it hasn't affected the quality of my posts.[/quote]

At least you didn't time splice your finger off.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

really if this is appropriate or not, but it is funny:

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Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=punch it in;1066753]Except that he is a proven commodity in the prime of his career. This isnt deion, bruce smith, archuleta, mcnabb, etc etc etc etc[/quote]

Totally agree...sometimes you have to pay for a guy and take a chance. If they sign him I see it as our 1st round pick this year, it's only a game and Synders money so who cares. They will never break all the fan criticism until we win a SB again, people complain that we didn't go after any big names in FA and now people complain. Only thing to cure it is to win.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=redskins5044;1066759]Totally agree...sometimes you have to pay for a guy and take a chance. If they sign him I see it as our 1st round pick this year, it's only a game and Synders money so who cares. They will never break all the fan criticism until we win a SB again, people complain that we didn't go after any big names in FA and now people complain. Only thing to cure it is to win.[/quote]

I want djax here, but saying it's our 1st round pick is a little misleading. The cap hit from a first round pick gives you a top player with 4 years of cap bliss. There's no guarantee of 2 years cap bliss with djax.

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I just want it done at this point one way or an another.

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[QUOTE]
[U]Name Team Total Value [B][U]APY [/U][/B]Guarantee Guarantee Per Year Percent Guaranteed Free Agency[/U]
Calvin Johnson Lions $113,450,000 [B]$16,207,143[/B] $48,750,000 $6,964,286 43.0% 2020
Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals $113,000,000 [B]$16,142,857[/B] $27,000,000 $3,857,143 23.9% 2019
Percy Harvin Seahawks $64,245,000 [B]$12,849,000[/B] $14,500,000 $2,900,000 22.6% 2019
Mike Wallace Dolphins $60,000,000 [B]$12,000,000[/B] $27,000,000 $5,400,000 45.0% 2018
Dwayne Bowe Chiefs $56,000,000 [B]$11,200,000[/B] $20,000,000 $4,000,000 35.7% 2018
Brandon Marshall Bears $44,779,000 [B]$11,194,750[/B] $12,500,000 $3,125,000 27.9% 2015
Vincent Jackson Buccaneers $55,555,555 [B]$11,111,111[/B] $26,000,000 $5,200,000 46.8% 2017
Andre Johnson Texans $67,800,000 [B]$9,685,714[/B] $20,500,000 $2,928,571 30.2% 2017
Greg Jennings Vikings $45,000,000 [B]$9,000,000[/B] $17,800,000 $3,560,000 39.6% 2018
Victor Cruz Giants $43,000,000 [B]$8,600,000[/B] $15,629,000 $3,125,800 36.3% 2019
Roddy White Falcons $42,720,000 [B]$8,544,000[/B] $18,600,000 $3,720,000 43.5% 2015
Pierre Garcon Redskins $42,500,000 [B]$8,500,000[/B] $13,100,000 $2,620,000 30.8% 2017
Antonio Brown Steelers $41,960,000 [B]$8,392,000[/B] $8,500,000 $1,700,000 20.3% 2018
Mike Williams Buccaneers $39,620,000 [B]$7,924,000[/B] $14,600,000 $2,920,000 36.9% 2019
Marques Colston Saints $36,300,000 [B]$7,260,000[/B] $17,700,000 $3,540,000 48.8% 2017
[U]Eric Decker[/U] Jets $36,250,000 [B]$7,250,000[/B] $15,000,000 $3,000,000 41.4% 2019
Steve Johnson Bills $36,250,000 $[B]7,250,000[/B] $11,000,000 $2,200,000 30.3% 2017
Golden Tate Lions $31,000,000 [B]$6,200,000[/B] $10,500,000 $3,000,000 41.4% 2019
[url=http://overthecap.com/top-player-salaries.php?Position=WR]» Over the Cap- Top NFL Contracts: Wide Receiver[/url]
[/QUOTE]

There are rumors that DJax's deal is going to be more than Deckers, as the standard for FA this year.. So here are the top 16-17 WR contracts. Only Tampa Bay, Lions currently have two WR on this list.

It's interesting to note that of the top 4 teams last year in the playoffs: Percy Harvin had a large contract for the Seahawks, but really only played a small portion of the year. For the Broncos, the highest paid WR is Wes Welker at 20th. The 49ers and Patriot don't have a WR in the the top 20 priced contracs. Point is the best teams don't seem to invest/need high priced WRs..

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;1066721]I'm guessing part of it is he doesn't want to risk being in the same spot a couple years from now. [B]From what I understand his contract with the Eagles made the cap implications of releasing him virtually non-existent. [/B] As a result they were able to let him go at the drop of a hat.

A more generous signing bonus and years as has been suggested would require any team signing him to jump through more hoops should they have a change in heart.[/quote]

No Dirt, not true. The cost of releasing Jackson was a $6 mil. dead cap hit. See [URL="http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/28/desean-jackson-released-philadelphia-eagles/"]here [/URL]or [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/28/eagles-will-carry-6-million-on-2014-cap-for-desean-jackson/"]here[/URL].

This is one reason why I have beaten the drum against DJax. Philly wanted him gone so bad, they were willing to absorb immediately a dead cap hit of $6 mil.

Besides, in two years a DJax deadcap hit of $6 mil. could be ours, too, if we sign him.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=Lotus;1066769]No Dirt, not true. The cost of releasing Jackson was a $6 mil. dead cap hit. See [URL="http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/28/desean-jackson-released-philadelphia-eagles/"]here [/URL]or [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/28/eagles-will-carry-6-million-on-2014-cap-for-desean-jackson/"]here[/URL].

This is one reason why I have beaten the drum against DJax. Philly wanted him gone so bad, they were willing to absorb immediately a dead cap hit of $6 mil.

Besides, in two years a DJax deadcap hit of $6 mil. could be ours, too, if we sign him.[/quote]

Well $6 mil was cheaper for Philly than getting rid of him in the future when the cap hit was going to be even more.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[IMG]http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/srcstc.gif[/IMG][quote=Lotus;1066769]No Dirt, not true. The cost of releasing Jackson was a $6 mil. dead cap hit. See [URL="http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/28/desean-jackson-released-philadelphia-eagles/"]here [/URL]or [URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/28/eagles-will-carry-6-million-on-2014-cap-for-desean-jackson/"]here[/URL].

This is one reason why I have beaten the drum against DJax. Philly wanted him gone so bad, they were willing to absorb immediately a dead cap hit of $6 mil.

Besides, in two years a DJax deadcap hit of $6 mil. could be ours, too, if we sign him.[/quote]

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Come on DJax! How can you say no to Wale AND Kevin Durant!

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/kevin-durant-helping-recruit-desean-jackson]Kevin Durant helping recruit DeSean Jackson | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

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Alright well I understand this from an argument perspective, and yes there may be something more to tell from this, but it still a terrible thing to have playmakers. Teams have to score, and honestly if we get 2012 IIi back again we will again score. I think if we can pull this off to go along with Garçon and the gang we will be great there this year and possibly prolific next.

If we can add a RT and FS starter in this years draft plus a true nt I would be very happy going into next year.

2 years ago people wondered how good that team could have been in the playoffs sans rg III's knee. We weren't that far from making a run in 2012 until the end of the 1sr quarter against Seatle.

I am not ready to concede that we can no longer compete for the East, and in the playoffs anything can happen.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1066760]I want djax here, but saying it's our 1st round pick is a little misleading. The cap hit from a first round pick gives you a top player with 4 years of cap bliss. There's no guarantee of 2 years cap bliss with djax.[/quote]

Not contact wise, but it would all but take WR off the board in the 2nd round and fill a so called need. I don't look at money when it comes to players.

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1066772]Come on DJax! How can you say no to Wale AND Kevin Durant!

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/kevin-durant-helping-recruit-desean-jackson]Kevin Durant helping recruit DeSean Jackson | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url][/quote]

Then why the fck isn't Durant playing for the Wizards?

Re: DeSean Jackson meeting with the Redskins on Monday
 

[quote=Ruhskins;1066772]Come on DJax! How can you say no to Wale AND Kevin Durant!

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/kevin-durant-helping-recruit-desean-jackson]Kevin Durant helping recruit DeSean Jackson | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url][/quote]

Wonder if JR will be next, but I doubt he would be to impressed by Dale. Who knows though guys like cars that go fast.. Except we usually like ones that turn right as well as left... Zing!

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1066776]Then why the fck isn't Durant playing for the Wizards?[/quote]

Maybe one day maybe one day!

Doesn't the caps owner own the wiz now?

Anyone know if they clinched tonight?