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Funny how quiet this place is after a win. I am pretty happy. Beat one of the teams I hate the most and our franchise QB got some of his MOJO back.

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DJax is beast. I wish he'd be more effective on other routes besides Go routes, but the dude is legit. I hope to see him in a Skins uniform for a long time.

Much more effective with RG3 in there than any other QB.

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[quote=mredskins;1100975]Funny how quiet this place is after a win. I am pretty happy. Beat one of the teams I hate the most and our franchise QB got some of his MOJO back.[/quote]

Funny how avatars change back after a win ;)

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WOW!!!
it wasn't beautiful, but good teams win pretty or not. Not a good team, but maybe we learned a little about team spirit, and NO quitting in this squad. The coach apparently does not have a locker room problem. We knocked a better team than us (and division rival) OUT of the post....cool.
with our 4th string guys and walking wounded...no doubt.
How great to see Robert make it happen. Very happy for him. Maybe he can get back in the game!!
WooHoo!
HTTR
Note: You at the WP....KNOW, I DO NOT woohoo lightly

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Gruden is a good coach and he got a team to fight tonite. He got a QB that is apparently at odds with him to battle. We beat a team that was desperate for a win! Wonder what he will do with some cap money and a first round pick? Hey Rotten go suck an egg. Lol.

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[quote=Rotten1980;1100751]Sorry man I didn't see you ask this earlier. Agree his trade value is very low, which is a shame and part of the point I made. But it shouldn't be a question even, trading him will be an even bigger mistake than hiring Gruden.[/quote]

BTW, I have not heard....one....not one person with a job in the field...or like a professional NFL....er recommend or condone the firing of Gruden. Additionally, Most have stated flatly, it would be catastrophic.
I find it......comical that you do
Oh well, HTTR......

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[QUOTE=sevier2;1100978]Funny how avatars change back after a win ;)[/QUOTE]


Lol

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Been here a long time and a fan even longer, if I want change my avatar so be it. =)

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[quote=mredskins;1100988]Been here a long time and a fan even longer, if I want change my avatar so be it. =)[/quote]

You're such a poser.....

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Paging Rotten 1980? Rotten 1980 your thoughts are requested.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1100988]Been here a long time and a fan even longer, if I want change my avatar so be it. =)[/QUOTE]


But the Ravens? That was low. Cardinals would have been acceptable

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RGIII had several drops or his stats would have been much better..gotta give credit where its due! IF he can play like this he has a chance to be a good QB ..he finally has learned to slide ! I will have to say maybe Gruden's tough love has had an impact on Robert..I saw a lot of fight and heart on this team..Gruden has not lost the locker room. things are gonna get better next year.

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What a good Xmas present. I'm just happy the Redskins are 1 win better than last year.

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[quote=mooby;1101006]What a good Xmas present. I'm just happy the Redskins are 1 win better than last year.[/quote]

So we have improved! Huzzah! Aiming for 5-11 next year. ;)

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1101008]So we have improved! Huzzah! Aiming for 5-11 next year. ;)[/quote]

I want 5-11 this year for Christmas! 3-3 in the east would mean something I guess

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Gruden gave a good review of Griff tonight. Funny how accolades accompanies winning and criticism accompanies losing. Or is it?

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1100974]Gruden had a nice game plan today for RGIII, it was conservative but it worked. This is the Best RGIII has looked in a long, long time.[/QUOTE]


He really didnt look great. Curious as to what the all 22 film shows. Did he miss alot of open guys? He seemed locked in alot to me. But if Gruden can beat a good team that was playing a must win game with a dumpster fire that has nothing to play for than i have hope for the future.

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[quote=punch it in;1101017]He really didnt look great. Curious as to what the all 22 film shows. Did he miss alot of open guys? He seemed locked in alot to me. But if Gruden can beat a good team that was playing a must win game with a dumpster fire that has nothing to play for than i have hope for the future.[/quote]

What do you want? It's a start, he threw two successful bombs to Jackson, Roberts didn't help with the drops.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1101018]What do you want? It's a start, he threw two successful bombs to Jackson, Roberts didn't help with the drops.[/QUOTE]


I want more than "its a start" 4 years in. Lol. Im enjoying the win but i still am not sure we have a QB on the roster that we can win consistently with.

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Gotta start somewhere. I think Griffin has shown some growth the last 2 weeks.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1101020]Gotta start somewhere. I think Griffin has shown some growth the last 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]


Well he has shown he isnt really awful. I still have the ten jersey hangin up with hope i can wear it again. Atleast Sanchez isnt our QB. Lol.

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[quote=punch it in;1101017]He really didnt look great. Curious as to what the all 22 film shows. Did he miss alot of open guys? He seemed locked in alot to me. But if Gruden can beat a good team that was playing a must win game with a dumpster fire that has nothing to play for than i have hope for the future.[/quote]

I just don't get it..what did he not do ?? He had two passes of over 20 yards each that where outright drops..To be fair lets put some heat on WR ROBERTS ..he had a huge fumble and dropped a pass in his hands! RGIII is truly in a no win situation with some fans..how about the blown coverage again in the skins secondary..the eagles converted 3rd and a mile several times..yet RGIII sucked?? I WATCHED THE DANG GAME ..RGIII PLAYED VERY WELL THANK YOU!!

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LOL people are expecting results like RG3 is a Madden player, LOL. He is now starting to get healthier from that ankle injury.

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RG3 really had only one really bad play, that interception which I think may have been a botched timing/pre-determined throw play.

There were a few mistakes he made, but I saw a great deal of improvement.

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Maybe next year we'll look at Gruden and call him a genius for tearing him down and building him back up. I say let's surround RGIII with a solid OL and see what he can do next year. Winning cures everything.

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1101030]I just don't get it..what did he not do ?? He had two passes of over 20 yards each that where outright drops..To be fair lets put some heat on WR ROBERTS ..he had a huge fumble and dropped a pass in his hands! RGIII is truly in a no win situation with some fans..how about the blown coverage again in the skins secondary..the eagles converted 3rd and a mile several times..yet RGIII sucked?? I WATCHED THE DANG GAME ..RGIII PLAYED VERY WELL THANK YOU!![/QUOTE]


Did I say he sucked?

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I said he really didnt look great. Slow down Cowboy.

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Andrea Roberts has just been a bust of a FA signing

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[quote=mredskins;1101039]Andrea Roberts has just been a bust of a FA signing[/quote]

Reminds me a lot of Jabar Gaffney.

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[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/jay-gruden-impressed-robert-griffin-iiis-performance]Jay Gruden 'impressed' with Robert Griffin III's performance | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1101043]Reminds me a lot of Jabar Gaffney.[/QUOTE]


The Goat is not happy about that.

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[quote=punch it in;1101048]The Goat is not happy about that.[/quote]

lol not so much that Gaffney was a bust. I liked Gaffney, but there was no way he should've been our #1 back when he was playing. He was slow and had we had a true #1 receiver that year, would've been playing #3 or #4 in the depth chart.

Roberts reminds me of that, because he too is somewhat slow (getting caught from behind by Rodgers-Cromartie in the Giants game), his hands are a little suspect and came in here wanting to be a #1 or at least a #2 but obviously doesn't deserve that.

That said, I guess we COULD be doing worse.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1100977]DJax is beast. I wish he'd be more effective on other routes besides Go routes, but the dude is legit. I hope to see him in a Skins uniform for a long time.

Much more effective with RG3 in there than any other QB.[/quote]

His ability to alter his route to the ball is the best I have ever seen. I'm sure there are better throughout history, but I can't remember them.

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[quote=Mattyk;1101020]Gotta start somewhere. I think Griffin has shown some growth the last 2 weeks.[/quote]

Yes! He's been attending to what he ignored before: footwork, timing, playing within the offense.

The results of his changed attitude are not yet all that apparent but the fact that he changed his attitude is huge.

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He had an average game to me. Very conservative play calling. The long ones to Jackson were nice. And Roberts wtf dude? Gotta help your QB on 3rd and long. He seriously sucks. Numerous drops this year. Great pick there Bruce! But I guess this is the kind of game Griffin has to run right now, hit a few, manage the game and try not to turn it over. He had a bad int and almost another that was dropped. Not sure this is what we should be expecting from the 2nd pick in the draft, a game manager, but right now it is what it is.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1101062]He had an average game to me. Very conservative play calling. The long ones to Jackson were nice. And Roberts wtf dude? Gotta help your QB on 3rd and long. He seriously sucks. Numerous drops this year. Great pick there Bruce! But I guess this is the kind of game Griffin has to run right now, hit a few, manage the game and try not to turn it over. He had a bad int and almost another that was dropped. Not sure this is what we should be expecting from the 2nd pick in the draft, a game manager, but right now it is what it is.[/quote]

I don't care who the QB is, they are going to be a game manager with those line problems and that defense.

We just don't have the luxury of being aggressive.

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[quote=punch it in;1101048]The Goat is not happy about that.[/quote]

I have wondered where Goat has been.

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Pretty sure he got the ax...

I've been wondering where Giantone's buddy RedskinRat is.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/14075/rg-iii-plays-better-but-debate-over-future-continues]Robert Griffin III plays better, but debate over future will continue - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1101034]Maybe next year we'll look at Gruden and call him a genius for tearing him down and building him back up. I say let's surround RGIII with a solid OL and see what he can do next year. Winning cures everything.[/quote]

I agree...especially with the o-line part.

I thought Griffin read thru progressions much better yesterday.

With a better o-line, that will only improve.