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[quote=hutch17;1142114]This is not the first big money corner he has signed as a GM so it is not unusual for him to do this. He loves big physical corners with attitude.[/quote]

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2786253]49ers make Clements NFL's highest-paid defender ever[/url]


49ers make Clements NFL's highest-paid defender ever

Mar 3, 2007
Len Pasquarelli


It took a monster deal to lure cornerback Nate Clements to Monster Park, but on the opening day of the NFL free-agent period, the San Francisco 49ers delivered, agreeing with the most coveted player in the market on a landmark contract.



McC's done this before folks

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Janoris Jenkins, Byron Maxwell, they are good corners but they are not game changers.

Norman was FIRST TEAM ALL PRO.

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If we get him, just hope Norman performs better than Clements did. I kind of remember him being the top corner at one point and he went there and just did OK.

I LIKE that he does fit what we do, but I worry about the dynamic in the locker room when you're giving someone a giant contract. I guess we've earned enough goodwill extending our own that people wouldn't think "same ol' Skins" again.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1142118]If we get him, just hope Norman performs better than Clements did. I kind of remember him being the top corner at one point and he went there and just did OK.

I LIKE that he does fit what we do, but I worry about the dynamic in the locker room when you're giving someone a giant contract. I guess we've earned enough goodwill extending our own that people wouldn't think "same ol' Skins" again.[/quote]

FWIW, Junior Gallette has told fans to come and greet Norman as he visits and said lets get this deal done

Chris Baker tweeted out "Pay the man" about Norman.

Norman is an emotional leader in that Panther lockerroom. No worries about fit.

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Ahh, love hearing that. If two people with deals ending this year are saying that, that's not a worry for me then.

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Unbelievable folks still calling this a "Snyder" move. Get the f*ck out with that thinking...

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[quote=Chico23231;1142116][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2786253]49ers make Clements NFL's highest-paid defender ever[/url]


49ers make Clements NFL's highest-paid defender ever

Mar 3, 2007
Len Pasquarelli


It took a monster deal to lure cornerback Nate Clements to Monster Park, but on the opening day of the NFL free-agent period, the San Francisco 49ers delivered, agreeing with the most coveted player in the market on a landmark contract.



McC's done this before folks[/quote]



That ended up badly too. Doesn't give me much confidence in the move lol

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[quote=Chico23231;1142124]Unbelievable folks still calling this a "Snyder" move. Get the f*ck out with that thinking...[/quote]



Can you really blame them?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1142126]Can you really blame them?[/quote]

Yes, yes I can

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[quote=NC_Skins;1142125]That ended up badly too. Doesn't give me much confidence in the move lol[/quote]

He wasn't terrible, but the point is McC is not afraid to make a big move.

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[quote=Chico23231;1142124]Unbelievable folks still calling this a "Snyder" move. Get the f*ck out with that thinking...[/quote]

Snyder moves have been going on for 15 years. For us to know without a doubt that RG3's release ended of that era will take more than 1 off-season under new management.

For the record, I have long been saying Snyder was learning and moving in the right direction, and I am a big supporter of him owning the team, but that doesn't mean I think he has completely transitioned to owner in the booth. I will believe that when a coveted player is in our grasp, and we go a different way because the cost is too high. We have definitely moved away from Vinnie era FA and that's great.

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[quote=Schneed10;1142117]Janoris Jenkins, Byron Maxwell, they are good corners but they are not game changers.

Norman was FIRST TEAM ALL PRO.[/quote]

Not so sure I'm ready to call him a "game changer" if he's really only had one outstanding year.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1142118[B]]If we get him, just hope Norman performs better than Clements did. I kind of remember him being the top corner at one point and he went there and just did OK.[/B]

I LIKE that he does fit what we do, but I worry about the dynamic in the locker room when you're giving someone a giant contract. I guess we've earned enough goodwill extending our own that people wouldn't think "same ol' Skins" again.[/quote]

This is really my main concern. It sounds great on the outside. We get a top corner and all. But how will he adjust to the new settings? New defense? New players around him? This to me is the number one reason free agency doesn't work. You rarely get that peak performance of the players previous team.

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Everyone on the radio and reading around here is worried that this will tie up too much money to pay our free agents next year (Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Gallette, Baker etc.) don't forget the cap will go up and we are going to lose probably Desean and Pierre, that is 20mm right there along with what we free up this year with cuts, there is plenty of money to go around.

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[quote=hutch17;1142133]Everyone on the radio and reading around here is worried that this will tie up too much money to pay our free agents next year (Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Gallette, Baker etc.) don't forget the cap will go up and we are going to lose probably Desean and Pierre, that is 20mm right there along with what we free up this year with cuts, there is plenty of money to go around.[/quote]

This is the single thing that drives me the most nuts. So many folks say what about the cap??! Can we pay everybody?? We shouldn't do this, I'm worried.

If you can't do the math then shut up and find somebody who can. When you work it out it's doable. I'm going to post something showing this when I can get a few free moments.

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And the reality is, one or two of our free agents next year are likely to disappoint us this year. Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Galette, Baker, somebody is not going to live up to being worthy of a new deal. If they all do, then we would have made a deep playoff run. But just law of averages, chances are one of those guys will walk because Scot won't like what he sees.

(please don't let it be cousins!

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[quote=hutch17;1142133]Everyone on the radio and reading around here is worried that this will tie up too much money to pay our free agents next year (Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Gallette, Baker etc.) don't forget the cap will go up and we are going to lose probably Desean and Pierre, that is 20mm right there along with what we free up this year with cuts, there is plenty of money to go around.[/quote]

that's complete BS...typical DC media. We have never had a problem with the salary cap even when Vinny was doing his dumb shit. Folks chill

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My worries have nothing to do with the cap, but with an infatuated value for an above average player. We have survived the 36B cap hit fiasco, and were barely limited by it, and mainly in the second year. BA, and the contracts staff, know how to put together well managed contracts.

But, Josh Norman is not Revis or Sherman, he has flaws (they do too obviously), and we don't know how he will react once he gets a big contract. If we do it, I will be excited, but a nagging voice will say he ain't gonna live up to it.

Hopefully one day that voice will go away.

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[quote=Schneed10;1142135]And the reality is, one or two of our free agents next year are likely to disappoint us this year. Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Galette, Baker, somebody is not going to live up to being worthy of a new deal. If they all do, then we would have made a deep playoff run. But just law of averages, chances are one of those guys will walk because Scot won't like what he sees.

(please don't let it be cousins![/quote]

As long as Reed and Cousins work out, then I don't care about the rest.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1142137]My worries have nothing to do with the cap, but with an infatuated value for an above average player. We have survived the 36B cap hit fiasco, and were barely limited by it, and mainly in the second year. BA, and the contracts staff, know how to put together well managed contracts.

But, Josh Norman is not Revis or Sherman, he has flaws (they do too obviously), and we don't know how he will react once he gets a big contract. If we do it, I will be excited, but a nagging voice will say he ain't gonna live up to it.

Hopefully one day that voice will go away.[/quote]

I think he is better than Sherman who I think is the most overrated player in the game right now. He is truly the porduct of the system and exceptional safeties and Dline.

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[quote=hutch17;1142139]I think he is better than Sherman who I think is the most overrated player in the game right now. He is truly the porduct of the system and exceptional safeties and Dline.[/quote]

We may say the same thing about Norman after he is away from Carolina. One thing though that I guess I will believe is that SM knows defense, and how to build it.

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Josh Norman just arrived at Redskins Park in Ashburn ... Video soon to come @CSNMA #RedskinsTalk

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Jags preparing to pounce?

[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/56070/Jags-have--continuing-interest--in-CB-Josh-Norman/Default.aspx]Jags have "continuing interest" in CB Josh Norman[/url]

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Norman is signed?

[url]https://twitter.com/RapShect[/url]

Now I'm told thats a fake account.
:doh:

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1142144]Norman is signed?

[url]https://twitter.com/RapShect[/url][/quote]

so he agreed [B]before[/B] he arrived at Redskin Park ?

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1142144]Norman is signed?

[url]https://twitter.com/RapShect[/url][/quote]

Fake account? I thought his account was the [B]@RapSheet[/B]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1142144]Norman is signed?

[url]https://twitter.com/RapShect[/url]

Now I'm told thats a fake account.
:doh:[/quote]

Yup. Rappaport is "@RapSheet" not "@RapShect"

lol got me as well.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1142145]so he agreed [B]before[/B] he arrived at Redskin Park ?[/quote]

Yes. Such is the power of the McLovin.

SM: [Waving hand] You don't need to see other teams.
JN: [Staring blankly] I don't need to see other teams.
SM: This is the team you are looking for.
JN: This is the team I am looking for.
SM: You can sign on the dotted line.
JN: I can sign on the dotted line.
SM: You're staying here.
JN: I'm staying here ... I'm staying here.

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[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/josh-norman-rolls-redskins-park-secret-service-style-convoy]Josh Norman rolls up to Redskins Park in Secret Service-style convoy | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1142144]Norman is signed?

[url]https://twitter.com/RapShect[/url]

Now I'm told thats a fake account.
:doh:[/quote]


It is fake. I get fooled until I double check the @ id. I would have flipped if they signed him for 18mil/yr

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1142149][url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/josh-norman-rolls-redskins-park-secret-service-style-convoy]Josh Norman rolls up to Redskins Park in Secret Service-style convoy | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url][/quote]

FWIW... a secret- service- style-convoy has more than 2 or 3 SUVs. Biden drove past me once and there were about 12 SUVs, as well as 10 MCO police cars

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... as Redskin nation frantically hits the refresh button every 30 seconds on [url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/]NFL Football Teams, Scores, Stats, News, Standings, Rumors - National Football League - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1142151]FWIW... a secret- service- style-convoy has more than 2 or 3 SUVs. Biden drove past me once and there were about 12 SUVs, as well as 10 MCO police cars[/quote]

And let's not forget the Secret Service Agents riding in the back of the Suburban with the rear hatch open sporting their weapons.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1142149][url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redskinsblog/josh-norman-rolls-redskins-park-secret-service-style-convoy]Josh Norman rolls up to Redskins Park in Secret Service-style convoy | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url][/quote]

These guys take themselves too seriously.

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Josh Norman convoy rolling by trees on his way to Ashburton.

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgqyQdOUkAIF37u.jpg:large[/IMG]

Scot McC: "Target Acquired."

[BTW - Complete twitter rip of @Chris_Worthy]

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[quote=J. Falcon;1142154]These guys take themselves too seriously.[/quote]

He brought Publicists, Financial Advisers and his mom.

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[quote]John Keim ‏@john_keim · 1m1 minute ago
Apparently One of those family members is Josh Norman's mom. That doesn't happen for routine visits.[/quote]

Moms is in the house.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1142157]Moms is in the house.[/quote]

Mom will get a $5 million dollar administrative assistant job. And Josh gets $10 million a year.

Then there is no problem with cap space

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Michael Silver wrote:

I do not expect the 49ers to make a run at signing Josh Norman

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[quote=hutch17;1142133]Everyone on the radio and reading around here is worried that this will tie up too much money to pay our free agents next year (Breeland, Reed, Cousins, Gallette, Baker etc.) don't forget the cap will go up and we are going to lose probably Desean and Pierre, that is 20mm right there along with what we free up this year with cuts, there is plenty of money to go around.[/quote]

For me it's is he a 15 million a year corner? That's what it comes down to. Will we get the production needed for that kind of money. History shows that we won't.

Not worried about re-signing our on guys. Also I don't think we can let go of both Garcon and Jackson. Who's going to play wr? We're probably going to need to bring one of them back.