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[quote=Chico23231;1196838]Not an assumption if NYT, Wa post, nbc news, etc chose not to run a story.

What’s the bigger story, a Russian spy at the national prayer breakfast or meeting with top obama adminstration officials?

Clearly biased and news sources which cannot be trusted to tell the American public the entire story.[/quote]

Yes it is chico . See I don't know why and I admit it ,you on the other hand don't either and automatically assume the worse,very trumpish of you I must say but not surprising.

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[quote=Giantone;1196839]Yes it is chico . See I don't know why and I admit it ,you on the other hand don't either and automatically assume the worse,very trumpish of you I must say but not surprising.[/quote]

G1, what Im able to do is provide clear examples of bias media. This is a perfect example of where major news sources get it wrong. Not only are major news source simply ignoring this story, others report in a manor not consistent with other coverage of the subject i.e. putting it on the backpages, putting it in hard to find spaces like world politics or the European section of the site. Others chose to place unassuming headlines "Russian met with top officials" or write basic, small articles with no analysis or pivotal details.

Like I said, whats the bigger story, Russian Spy meets with Prayer breakfast or Russian Spy meets with top Obama administration officials?

This is a great example

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[quote=Chico23231;1196842]G1, what Im able to do is provide clear examples of bias media. This is a perfect example of where major news sources get it wrong. Not only are major news source simply ignoring this story, others report in a manor not consistent with other coverage of the subject i.e. putting it on the backpages, putting it in hard to find spaces like world politics or the European section of the site. Others chose to place unassuming headlines "Russian met with top officials" or write basic, small articles with no analysis or pivotal details.

Like I said, whats the bigger story, Russian Spy meets with Prayer breakfast or Russian Spy meets with top Obama administration officials?

This is a great example[/quote]

Chico , no you don't you spin your outlook on the subject as fact and at the end of the day it's as phony as the outrage of "fake" MSM. You're like the little boy that cries wolf just to get attention. News organisations handle stories in the priority they see fit to handle for one reason or the other just becuase what they do does not fit your opinion of what a News organization should do does not make it "bias". We get it you love your buddy trump and you want to be like him ........you're looking as good as he does when he does this , yes, that was sarcasm.

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[quote=Giantone;1196844]Chico , no you don't you spin your outlook on the subject as fact and at the end of the day it's as phony as the outrage of "fake" MSM. You're like the little boy that cries wolf just to get attention. [B]News organisations handle stories in the priority they see fit to handle for one reason or the other [/B]just becuase what they do does not fit your opinion of what a News organization should do does not make it "bias". We get it you love your buddy trump and you want to be like him ........you're looking as good as he does when he does this , yes, that was sarcasm.[/quote]

lol this is the issue G1, "how they see fit" is the problem...if you stringing together a narrative with an agenda...this is wrong and defies the principles at their core.

Answer the question, bigger story: Russian spy at National prayer breakfast/NRA event or meeting with top US officials in the Obama Administration to discuss the US-Russia economies?

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[quote=Chico23231;1196845]lol this is the issue G1, "how they see fit" is the problem...if you stringing together a narrative with an agenda...this is wrong and defies the principles at their core.

Answer the question, bigger story: Russian spy at National prayer breakfast/NRA event or meeting with top US officials in the Obama Administration to discuss the US-Russia economies?[/quote]

No it's not,the issue is how you see it and how it fits your narrative .You need to practice what it is you're preaching.

You want people to choose between two stories you choose ,why , to fit your narrative.Your bias on and about Media is showing.

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[quote=Giantone;1196846]No it's not,the issue is how you see it and how it fits your narrative .You need to practice what it is you're preaching.

You want people to choose between two stories you choose ,why , to fit your narrative.Your bias on and about Media is showing.[/quote]

Yeah the narrative of unbiased media reporting and not a mouthpiece for liberal causes across a mainstream media landscape.


Im not asking for a choice between the two, Im asking for equal treatment of information. Context and relevance.

Take that story, remove 2015 and Obama officials AND replace with 2016 and Trump.

How would that story be reported?

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[quote=Chico23231;1196847]Yeah the narrative of unbiased media reporting and not a mouthpiece for liberal causes across a mainstream media landscape.


Im not asking for a choice between the two, Im asking for equal treatment of information. Context and relevance.

Take that story, remove 2015 and Obama officials AND replace with 2016 and Trump.

How would that story be reported?[/quote]
Again , you can't . You're asking a what if . You openly admit your bias in your first sentence . You ,yourself can not be fair or unbiased .

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Here is Washington Post printing fake news before researching the story:

7/19 they publish story "We don't tip terrorist" Texas Restaurant bans customer who leaves message....

Today they have killed the link to that story and now provide updated link stating the kid made up the story.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/23/waiter-faked-story-that-customer-wrote-we-dont-tip-terrorist-on-receipt-restaurant-says/?utm_term=.a4bcdb31e2b4[/url]

So without researching the story, they run with it reporting it as fact to take advantage of a politically charged and identity politics driven atmosphere in order to spread a false narrative.

G1 file this under Washington Post reporting fake news.

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[quote=Chico23231;1196851]Here is Washington Post printing fake news before researching the story:

7/19 they publish story "We don't tip terrorist" Texas Restaurant bans customer who leaves message....

Today they have killed the link to that story and now provide updated link stating the kid made up the story.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/23/waiter-faked-story-that-customer-wrote-we-dont-tip-terrorist-on-receipt-restaurant-says/?utm_term=.a4bcdb31e2b4[/url]

So without researching the story, they run with it reporting it as fact to take advantage of a politically charged and identity politics driven atmosphere in order to spread a false narrative.

G1 file this under Washington Post reporting fake news.[/quote]
Thank you for proving my point chico. You claim the "Washington Post is reporting "fake news" all they did was report what happen,they are called facts being a trump fan I realize you are not use to them ,as did all the other media outlets,[B]ALL of THEM![/B]. You are the bias one,you can not be subjective.You're attacks about the media are pointless now.


You claim it was the Washington Post..................


Here are just some of the other outlets......

[url]https://www.theroot.com/texas-waiter-who-received-we-dont-tip-terrorist-note-ad-1827825625[/url]
[url]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-waiter-faked-we-dont-tip-terrorist-note-on-receipt-restaurant-says/[/url]
[url]https://www.newsweek.com/restaurant-invites-customer-waiter-racist-we-dont-tip-terrorist-note-fake-1039843[/url]
[url]https://www.insideedition.com/waiter-who-said-customer-wrote-we-dont-tip-terrorist-receipt-lied-restaurant-45342[/url]
[url]https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/nation-world/texas-waiter-made-up-racist-note-story-saltgrass-coo-says/507-576798091[/url]

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More media, then media bias

Gotta love when news and opinion clash:
below is the lead column on CNN.
[quote]
[B]US and EU agree to work toward zero tariffs
[/B][B]Both sides agreed to halt for now tariffs that threatened to devolve into a trade war as negotiations proceed[/B]
Trump: My favorite word is reciprocal
Europe and the US have the world's most important business ties
The trade war is starting to hurt American automakers
China is killing my business. Now tariffs are too
[B]Opinion: Why the US and the EU need a trade ceasefire
Opinion: Trump's fast and loose trade policy endangers American jobs[/B][/quote]
{emphasis mine}


Bottom line I see some winning going on-[LIST][*]Great economy, [*]freeer EU trade, [*]NK declaring amnesty for crimes against the country (I am really interested to see how that plays out), [*]Low unemployment across the board, [*]20 dollars in my pocket each week.[*]There really are a lot more, but I don't want heads exploding on my conscience[/LIST]Spin away those who think more about Russia than what's really happening to everyday citizens, spin away.

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Very good read.............


[url]https://my.xfinity.com/articles/news-national/20180726/APFN-US--Trump-Trade-Steel-Town-fa4f[/url]

While we're happy Granite City has those jobs coming back, it's a lot harder to see the jobs that are lost or not created in the rest of the state because of the tariffs," said Illinois Chamber of Commerce President Todd Maisch. He described the administration's policies as "really negative" for most of Illinois, the nation's fifth-largest economy.

Richard Guebert, a farmer and president of the Illinois Farm Bureau, said he told Vice President Mike Pence during a meeting last week that there's "a lot of angst" among farmers after several tough years and with another strong crop likely to lower prices this year. He worries particularly about whether young farmers will be able to keep going in a state where one of every four rows of soybeans is exported to China.

"Older, more seasoned farmers have a better asset base. They can weather storms like this," Guebert said. "The young farmers are having a definite challenge."

A $12 billion aid package the administration announced Tuesday to help farmers hurt by the trade disputes is "a start," Guebert said, but "won't make farmers whole in the face of continued trade tensions."

Factories around the region also have been hurt. Mid Continent Nail Corp. in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, has shuttered a multimillion-dollar plant and is "on the brink of extinction."

The company, which says it's the nation's largest nail manufacturer, employed 510 workers before Trump raised tariffs on June 1 but has since slashed its workforce to 370, spokesman James Glassman said. The tariffs led to a big jump in the price of steel wire, the raw material Mid Continent imports from Mexico to make nails. When Mid Continent raised its prices 25 percent, customers turned to cheaper foreign-made nails.

"This is a county that went 79 percent for Trump so people are certainly willing to give him the benefit of the doubt," Glassman said. "But their jobs are at stake because of this misguided tariff."

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This is an OPINION Piece...............




[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/07/26/donald-trump-trade-war-china-deficits-payoff-farmers-column/840426002/[/url]

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Another Opinion piece that nails it nicely.

[url]https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Trump-cannot-keep-his-corruption-hidden-forever-13107292.php?ipid=newsrecirc[/url]


...just part of it.



* A TRUCE IN TRADE WAR, OR JUST A LULL? Trump and the European Union have backed away from a destructive trade war and have pledged to negotiate to lower tariffs, but the New York Times points out:

"It was hard to say, given Mr. Trump's bluster and unpredictable negotiating style, if the agreement was a genuine truce or merely a lull in a conflict that could flare up again. Twice, Mr. Trump's aides have negotiated potential deals with China, only to have him reject them and impose further tariffs."

The problem: It's never clear what Trump will need to declare victory, because he often rails at mistreatment of America that isn't real. If he starts feeling like a loser again, all bets are off.

* DRIVE TO IMPEACH ROSENSTEIN PUTS GOP IN TOUGH SPOT: House conservatives allied with Trump have introduced impeachment articles against deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein. But The Post reports:

"House Republican aides said that if a member tried to force a vote on the measure, leaders probably would move to send it to the House Judiciary Committee for further review, effectively bottling it up indefinitely. But that could still be an uncomfortable vote for many Republicans who are under pressure from conservative groups - and the voters who follow them - to unseat the man who oversees the investigation Trump routinely denigrates as a 'witch hunt.'"

So GOP leaders don't want a full vote on this to happen. Let's see if they strongly defend the integrity of the investigation and forcefully denounce this bad faith nonsense for what it is.

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A Great Read! Yes it's opinion.


[url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/glanton/ct-met-glanton-column-letter-to-republicans-20180718-story.html]To my Republican friends: It’s time to let Trump go - Chicago Tribune[/url]


[B][B]W[/B]hen a friend is in trouble, our instinct is to try and steer them away from danger.

Sometimes that means putting the friendship on the line by saying things they don’t want to hear. You gently nudge them toward the light when their eyes are blind to the truth.[/B]

This message is for my Republican friends — those smart and compassionate people I argue with fiercely over political ideology but with whom I share an unfaltering respect for our democracy.

My friends, you are in an abusive relationship with Donald Trump. It is time to let him go.

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[url]https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/31/technology/facebook-removes-pages/index.html[/url]

So is Russian colluding with actual activist to divide the country? This side of the Russian interference is certainly the more under reported story.

Facebook said the "Resisters" page, which organized the "No Unite the Right 2" event, recruited [B]real activists who "unwittingly helped build interest in" the event" and posted information[/B] about transportation, materials, and locations so people could get to the protests."

One page promoted a "No Unite the Right 2" march -- a counter demonstration to a planned "Unite the Right" event to coincide with the one-year anniversary of the march in Charlottesville in which a woman was killed. [B]There was also an effort to amplify the "Abolish ICE" message pushed by liberals[/B], the source said

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LOL, under reported no. Coming from the side that said there was no such thing in the first place I find that funny.

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Here's hoping Acosta stays out, and CNN stops the aggressive attacks on Sanders/Trump

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/cnn-reporter-walks-sarah-huckabee-183926383.html[/url]

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lol yeah Acosta is the asshole in all this

[emoji849]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1197213]lol yeah Acosta is the asshole in all this

[emoji849][/QUOTE]Have you listened to him. Yeah he is.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1197214]Have you listened to him. Yeah he is.[/QUOTE]


Compared to Sanders? That’s laughable

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[quote=MTK;1197215]Compared to Sanders? That’s laughable[/quote]

I see a lot of fault with both. I think cnn guy is doing his best to show his ass about every chance he gets...it’s tiring. Sanders and administration, enemy of the people is too much. That rhetoric goes too far...I wish the administration would tone it back.

But what I continuously see is cnn getting worst with their coverage. The story today where trump pulled folks together to talk about prison reform that touched on race relations and improved economic improvements with some economic stats....it wasn't covered by cnn...nothing on the front page of website. That’s an opportunity to get a positive story we need...cnn fails again. Really no excuse but simple bias because it doesn’t fit cnn’s political agenda. Fuck’m

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[QUOTE=MTK;1197215]Compared to Sanders? That’s laughable[/QUOTE]Acosta has been that way from day 1 be it Spicer or Sanders. Its been his mission. Sanders is respectful to the press pool in general.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1197214]Have you listened to him. Yeah he is.[/quote]

LOL,:stop:spank:

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FOX will do nothing to this women.


[url]https://my.xfinity.com/video/fox-host-apologizes-after-claiming-her-country-club-wouldn-t-seat-her-family-because-of-her-views-on-trump/1290831939970/Comcast/TopVideos?cid=sf_vidtray_foxhost&tab=Must%20Watch[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1197223]Acosta has been that way from day 1 be it Spicer or Sanders. Its been his mission. Sanders is respectful to the press pool in general.[/quote]
:funnypost :laughing2

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[quote=MTK;1197213]lol yeah Acosta is the asshole in all this

[emoji849][/quote]

This is a very good read about what happen yesterday but for all you anti media people make sure you read the writer's resume at the bottom of it.

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/sarah-sanders-dishonest-defense-trump-his-assault-free-press-reaches-ncna897156?cid=par-xfinity_20180803[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1197223]Acosta has been that way from day 1 be it Spicer or Sanders. Its been his mission. [B]Sanders is respectful to the press pool in general[/B].[/quote]

Yeah except for the fact she refuses to say the media is not the enemy of the people. Other than that, yeah total respect.

The truth is this WH likes that there is a divide between them and the media. It keeps the mouth breathing portion of the base fired up. It keeps the fake news, us against them narrative going. I just hope it doesn't end up with someone in the media getting assaulted, because that's where it feels like this is going to end up.

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[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/cbs-posts-higher-profit-revenue-1533241059[/url]

CBS Prohibits Questions on Probe

CBS said allegations of sexual harassment against CEO Leslie Moonves would be off limits for questioning, and analysts stayed away from the topic

Typical hypocrites...the media refuses questions from the media and investors

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[URL="https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/trumps-escalating-war-on-the-truth-is-on-purpose"]It’s True: Trump Is Lying More, and He’s Doing It on Purpose[/URL]

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[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/awkward-watch-sean-hannity-keep-072212749.html[/url]

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Hannity is a clown

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[url]https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/03/media/newseum-fake-news-t-shirts/index.html[/url]

Lol...g1 pick up 2

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Wide Spread Voter Fraud! .....untrue



[url]http://paceidocs.sosonline.org/PDF/Dunlap%20PACEI%20Docs%20Findings%20letter%20-%20FINAL.080318.pdf[/url]

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.....and in a related story!


[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/01/republicans-block-money-election-security/884438002/[/url]


WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic push Wednesday that would have provided $250 million to beef up election security.

The money would have been doled out in grants through the Federal Election Assistance Commission and helped, among other things, replace outdated voting equipment and increase cybersecurity efforts.

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Seems the "fake news attacks by trump " are not working.


[url]https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/07/30/donald-trumps-attacks-on-the-media-may-have-backfired[/url]


So far, however, Mr Trump’s broadsides have failed to dent faith in his targets. On behalf of The Economist, during the past three years YouGov, a pollster, has asked a representative sample of Americans to rate large American news organisations on a scale from “very trustworthy” to “very untrustworthy”. (We calculate net trustworthiness on a scale of -100 to 100 from a weighted average of “very trustworthy” (100), “trustworthy” (50), “neither trustworthy or untrustworthy” (0), “untrustworthy” (-50) and “very untrustworthy” (-100).) From October 15th 2016, shortly before he was elected, to this month, confidence in Mr Trump’s two most frequently targeted newspapers, the New York Times and Washington Post, has actually grown. During the same period, trust in two media outlets that offer him reliably fawning coverage, Fox News and Breitbart, has withered.
This trend is not only a product of liberal readers flocking to publications criticised by the president they revile. Instead, trust in America’s mainstream print media has improved across the political spectrum. Unsurprisingly, people who said they would or did vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 now trust the Times and Post more, and Fox less, than they did two years ago. Yet even among people who support the president, net trust of Mr Trump’s bêtes noires has increased, albeit by much smaller amounts. Meanwhile, during the past two years, the New York Times’ monthly online readership has doubled to 130m. If anything is failing, it appears to be Mr Trump’s campaign to undermine trust in the press, not the Gray Lady.

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/08/02/politico-reporter-apologizes-for-calling-trump-supporters-garbage-people-with-bad-teeth/?utm_term=.f78683cb0359[/url]
Politico reporter apologizes for calling CNN haters at Trump rally ‘garbage people’

Politico is clearly biased, fake news

The New York Times hired a racist

Sarah Jeong: NY Times stands by 'racist tweets' reporter

[url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1197319][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/08/02/politico-reporter-apologizes-for-calling-trump-supporters-garbage-people-with-bad-teeth/?utm_term=.f78683cb0359[/url]
Politico reporter apologizes for calling CNN haters at Trump rally ‘garbage people’

Politico is clearly biased, fake news

The New York Times hired a racist

Sarah Jeong: NY Times stands by 'racist tweets' reporter

[url]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534[/url][/quote]
@ triggerd .:laughing-



chico you're fighting a losing battle ,people don't believe your bs any more about the media ,yours or trumps.

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[IMG]https://www.economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/800-width/20180804_WOC977_0.png[/IMG]

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[quote=Giantone;1197320]@ triggerd .:laughing-



chico you're fighting a losing battle ,people don't believe your bs any more about the media ,yours or trumps.[/quote]

Who is apologizing, me or Politico?

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[quote=Giantone;1197313].....and in a related story!


[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/01/republicans-block-money-election-security/884438002/[/url]


WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic push Wednesday that would have provided $250 million to beef up election security.

The money would have been doled out in grants through the Federal Election Assistance Commission and helped, among other things, replace outdated voting equipment and increase cybersecurity efforts.[/quote]

This was a polictical ploy by Democrats and a great example of fake news. The ploy was the dems didn’t try to get support for this and wanted a down vote by The gop so they could tweet about it and so media would eat it up. There is a ton of context missing...a couple things...first our election process across the board is so flush with cash local boards are returning it. This doesn’t affect anything with the security of our mid terms. Most news orgs actually didn’t give this a lot Press because it was such a political ploy by dems.

Of course g1 runs with it.