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[quote=GridIron26;1191463]I wonder if Redskins decided to withdraw their offer for Galette (since he is taking a while to make a decision & other teams offering more money) so they can use that money to up their offer for Hankins or McPhee?[/quote]

Maybe, but it sounded like they were offering him an incentive laden contract, and he didn't want to play on that type of deal.

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I think the only reason you actually pull the offer is because you think you're getting closer to landing McPhee.

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Isn’t JG much better, and capable of much more, than McPhee? Why does this team want to keep replacing good talent with second rate crap?

Let’s see. Let’s let Garçon and DJAX walk and replace them with Quick and Pryor. How did that work out??

Let’s let Al Morris walk. How’s that worked for us? Our running game has been total GARBAGE

Let’s let Breeland and Fuller go and replace them with Sandrick...yeah....ok.


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How much did they spend on McGee and McClain on the defense line last year but passed on Poe and now Hankins? How’s that working


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I'm not sure JG made that much of an impact last year. They have to offer him what they think he is worth. Given the injury history and his production last year (without knowing the parameters of the offer), an incentive laden deal seems appropriate.

Maybe Ryan Anderson is set to take a big step forward, or they have other plans.

Bottom line is they made an offer, apparently he wasn't willing to sign it, and now both sides move on.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1191471]I'm not sure JG made that much of an impact last year. They have to offer him what they think he is worth. Given the injury history and his production last year (without knowing the parameters of the offer), an incentive laden deal seems appropriate.

Maybe Ryan Anderson is set to take a big step forward, or they have other plans.

Bottom line is they made an offer, apparently he wasn't willing to sign it, and now both sides move on.[/QUOTE]



See my comments above your post. Bruce Allen is not a qualified GM and his track record says it all.


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We couldn’t have landed Honey Badger at the one year price Houston got him at? Instead we dump money into Sandrick.

We’re sure as hell relying on the draft at this point to fill all of our holes.


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191479]We couldn’t have landed Honey Badger at the one year price Houston got him at? Instead we dump money into Sandrick.

We’re sure as hell relying on the draft at this point to fill all of our holes.


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I wanted honey badger but maybe they are just that confident in Monte

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Monte ain’t even sniffing Honey Badgers underwear


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It's weird when someone wants the opposite of every decision the Skins make. It makes you think that the opinion is formed as a result of the Skins' actions, not independently of them.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191478]See my comments above your post. Bruce Allen is not a qualified GM and his track record says it all.


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How do you define BA's track record? I'm not pro or con, Just want to know what criteria you are using to judge it.

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Wins and losses record. Failure to Field a winning team. 1 playoff win in his tenure


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Or actually 0 payoff wins. Just 1 appreance


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191478]See my comments above your post. Bruce Allen is not a qualified GM and his track record says it all.


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I agree.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191488]Wins and losses record. Failure to Field a winning team. 1 playoff win in his tenure


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Gotcha, it's actually 2 playoff appearances 0 wins under his tenure. Do you feel Gruden should go, or just BA?

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I actually think they should’ve kept Shanahan and let him work with cousins like he originally wanted to do


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I think Gruden has done a decent job with the hand he’s been dealt. I hold Bruce Responsible for the personnel moves, the draft moves, the front office moves, and the one giving Gruden the players to work with or lack there of


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I hold Bruce responsible for the failed cousins contract dating back years, and I hold Bruce responsible for letting Shanahan go and giving RG3 the benefit of the doubt. Over the past few years watching where Griffin ended up and watching where cousins ended up let us know Shanahan was right all along And Bruce was wrong all along. Bruce’s poor ass decision set this team back years, but yet he still here and Shanahan’s at home laughing his ass off

Ronald McDonald would do better as a GM

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191494]I hold Bruce responsible for the failed cousins contract dating back years, and I hold Bruce responsible for letting Shanahan go and giving RG3 the benefit of the doubt. Over the past few years watching where Griffin ended up and watching where cousins ended up let us know Shanahan was right all along And Bruce was wrong all along. Bruce’s poor ass decision set this team back years, but yet he still here and Shanahan’s at home laughing his ass off

[B]Ronald McDonald would do better as a GM[/B]

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I think Cleveland have already signed him as an advisor. :silly:

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191494]I hold Bruce responsible for the failed cousins contract dating back years, and I hold Bruce responsible for letting Shanahan go and giving RG3 the benefit of the doubt. Over the past few years watching where Griffin ended up and watching where cousins ended up let us know Shanahan was right all along And Bruce was wrong all along. Bruce’s poor ass decision set this team back years, but yet he still here and Shanahan’s at home laughing his ass off

Ronald McDonald would do better as a GM

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I would have liked to see Shanahan as a coach only and BA as the GM.

I don't think you can exclusively fault Bruce for RG3. I think Shanahan was agreeable to the RG3 trade when it happened.

Only a few people really know what role Bruce played in that compared to DS and MS.

I do blame him for Kirk but the end of that story has yet to be written. I'm completely comfortable NOW with AS as the QB, especially at the cap number he is at.

I believe people forget when MS had full control our salary allocation pretty much neglected the defense.

The spending was totally weighted toward the offense. I couldn't find a link from the Shanny era but below is the current situation.

overthecap.com/salary-cap/washington-redskins/

Right now we are offense heavy but it is not crazy out of whack. Only a 20m differential.

Also, I think people forget how the bogus salary cap penalty killed our depth. We still signed paid higher priced stars but lost out on quality depth guys.

Admittedly, I have a knee jerk reaction to moves and inaction but i am fine with the way the roster, and in particular the draft has been handled.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1191501]I would have liked to see Shanahan as a coach only and BA as the GM.

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[B]I believe people forget when MS had full control our salary allocation pretty much neglected the defense.

The spending was totally weighted toward the offense. I couldn't find a link from the Shanny era but below is the current situation.[/B]

overthecap.com/salary-cap/washington-redskins/

Right now we are offense heavy but it is not crazy out of whack. Only a 20m differential.
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I don't know about spending, but it was reflected in our net points.
In Shanahan's 4 years, our net points were: -75, -79, 48(RG3 title year), -144
Gruden's first year: -137
Gruden's remaining years:9(KC's title year), 13, -46 (this year but I think injuries added in to that, the DL looked alot better when Allen/Ionnaidis were on the line rotation)

So the discrepancy that Shanahan was creating on defense definitely showed up in the stats.
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Also, I think people forget how the bogus salary cap penalty killed our depth. We still signed paid higher priced stars but lost out on quality depth guys.

Admittedly, I have a knee jerk reaction to moves and inaction but i am fine with the way the roster, and [B]in particular the draft has been handled.[/B][/quote]
I pointed this out in other threads, but this FO has been very good with the draft, both in terms of quantity of picks and quality of players.

2010 - 1 player still in NFL (TW)
2011 - 4 players
2012 - 6 of 9
2013 - 4 of 7
2014 - 5 or 8
2015 - 7 of 10
2016 - 7 of 7
2017 - 10 of 10 (more important is the quantity since we know some of these guys, like Samaje Perine for example, may not last)

I took these from Pro football reference.com's draft lists. That is really good talent scouting and drafting.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1191504]I don't know about spending, but it was reflected in our net points.
In Shanahan's 4 years, our net points were: -75, -79, 48(RG3 title year), -144
Gruden's first year: -137
Gruden's remaining years:9(KC's title year), 13, -46 (this year but I think injuries added in to that, the DL looked alot better when Allen/Ionnaidis were on the line rotation)

So the discrepancy that Shanahan was creating on defense definitely showed up in the stats.

I pointed this out in other threads, but this FO has been very good with the draft, both in terms of quantity of picks and quality of players.

2010 - 1 player still in NFL (TW)
2011 - 4 players
2012 - 6 of 9
2013 - 4 of 7
2014 - 5 or 8
2015 - 7 of 10
2016 - 7 of 7
2017 - 10 of 10 (more important is the quantity since we know some of these guys, like Samaje Perine for example, may not last)

I took these from Pro football reference.com's draft lists. That is really good talent scouting and drafting.[/QUOTE]I agree, we are definitely trending in right direction.
The Smith trade really was one of the best ways possible to come out of our (mainly self inflicted) QB mess.

It is strange though: (of course depending on how we draft and how our picks play) but if we sign Hankins I'll be pretty high on our FA, and if we don't I won't get the logic of what they're trying to do... carrying cap space onto next year when you just traded for a 33 years old top 15~12 QB doesn't make much sense IMO.

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I agree. I thought they had been being cautious the last few years with the hope they could sign the old qb, but now that he is gone it seems like they could put a winning offer out there. Of course they also have done well by having cap space available later in free agency for Norman and DJax but you don't always get something like that.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1191492]I actually think they should’ve kept Shanahan and let him work with cousins like he originally wanted to do


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Nice job of jumping on this thread about 2018 Free Agents and taking it back to the Dark Ages.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1191510]Nice job of jumping on this thread about 2018 Free Agents and taking it back to the Dark Ages.[/QUOTE]I fell right into the trap!! Face palm.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1191510]Nice job of jumping on this thread about 2018 Free Agents and taking it back to the Dark Ages.[/QUOTE]#kirkwouldhavesignedhankins

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The off season is starting to bore me and the draft is still too far away. I have a hankering for Hankins.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1191515]The off season is starting to bore me and the draft is still too far away. I have a hankering for Hankins.[/QUOTE]I think Suh has to sign first, or at least Tennessee has to make a decision about how interested they are in Suh vs Hankins.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1191516]I think Suh has to sign first, or at least Tennessee has to make a decision about how interested they are in Suh vs Hankins.[/quote]

Gonna be pissed if some team signs him for like 8 million a year, and we just sat on our hands.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1191517]Gonna be pissed if some team signs him for like 8 million a year, and we just sat on our hands.[/QUOTE]Come on, we are the only team that has had him for a visit (Detroit may have, but they signed 2 DL) and he didn't sign. He didnt sign with us last year. Keim wrote that we are staying in contact with him. But he also has connections in Tennessee. Sometimes s player just doesn't choose a team.

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Mcphee is signing, no details yet on the deal but we replaced gallette it appears

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1191523]Mcphee is signing, no details yet on the deal but we replaced gallette it appears

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Well. Hmm.

Here's to Ryan Anderson making a huge leap in year 2. Cheers.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1191524]Well. Hmm.

Here's to Ryan Anderson making a huge leap in year 2. Cheers.

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Let's hope he can

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Nice addition

[url=http://www.nfl.com/player/pernellmcphee/2495201/profile]Pernell McPhee, LB for the Chicago Bears at NFL.com[/url]

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McPhee is HALF the player JG is. Just more of replacing good talent with second rate crap


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I don't know much about McPhee but this video is a good break down of him. I wouldn't mind if this news is true at all, he looks like he can help with run defense which is something we need badly..

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIMxDfwE6wg[/url]

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Per Keim, nothing official on McPhee news, but says it is likely headed to a signing:

[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/977721393243676672[/url]

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Everyone must watch this excellent breakdown on McPhee. While Galette was a good situational pass rusher you really couldn’t put him on the field and expect him to set a good edge. McPhee is well-rounded, this explains it well.

[YT]KIMxDfwE6wg[/YT]

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Could we sign someone?! I want to see action! We need to make it happen BA! I’m getting bored here!


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I really don't mind the McPhee signing I think it might be ok for us ,but as long we can still go after Hankins that's who I really want for us just hope we can sign both if not then I don't want him .