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Number44 04-09-2020 10:15 AM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=GridIron26;1249007]Yeah that would make sense. If I'm the Miami GM, it would take a lot to convince me to give up the picks for one player..[/quote]

… whereas RR just made it clear that it would take a lot to convince him to give up the player for the picks.

sdskinsfan2001 04-09-2020 11:01 AM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
I'm not really sold on any of the QBs this year. If I'm Miami I hold tight at 5 and pick the highest QB left on my board when it gets to our pick.

skinsfaninok 04-09-2020 11:05 AM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1249013]I'm not really sold on any of the QBs this year. If I'm Miami I hold tight at 5 and pick the highest QB left on my board when it gets to our pick.[/quote]

It's a crapshoot every yr.. Nobody saw Mahomes being this great.. Burrow on tape is Romo like, accurate, smart , and moves better than he looks.

Tua is Wilson like, deadly accurate all over the field and moves well (not as fast as RW) .

Herbert has a cannon but is like a Jay Cutler.. Will make boneheaded throws too often.

You are taking a chance every yr like we did with Haskins last yr etc.

MTK 04-09-2020 11:43 AM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
I really think the modified draft setup is going to result in less trades


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Meks 04-09-2020 11:59 AM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=MTK;1249019]I really think the modified draft setup is going to result in less trades


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I thought the opposite but who knows

MTK 04-09-2020 12:58 PM

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Team are already concerned about fucking up the draft, trades add an extra element to fuck up


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skinsfaninok 04-09-2020 01:06 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=MTK;1249024]Team are already concerned about fucking up the draft, trades add an extra element to fuck up


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I agree, I don't see many deals going on now.. In fact there was a report from the Athletic saying no teams have contacted the skins about a deal yet.. That can change of course.

sdskinsfan2001 04-09-2020 01:51 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
Only 2 weeks until we have the best pass rushing trifecta in the NFL. Get excited!

SFREDSKIN 04-09-2020 02:18 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1249028]Only 2 weeks until we have the best pass rushing trifecta in the NFL. Get excited![/quote]

If we get Chase, this D will be awesome despite what most think. I like our DB’s and S added from FA.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-09-2020 02:19 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1249014]It's a crapshoot every yr.. Nobody saw Mahomes being this great.. Burrow on tape is Romo like, accurate, smart , and moves better than he looks.

Tua is Wilson like, deadly accurate all over the field and moves well (not as fast as RW) .

Herbert has a cannon but is like a Jay Cutler.. Will make boneheaded throws too often.

You are taking a chance every yr like we did with Haskins last yr etc.[/quote]

Tua apparently failed a physical according to some GM "in the top 10"

KI Skins Fan 04-09-2020 02:40 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1249030]Tua apparently failed a physical according to some GM "in the top 10"[/quote]

Please name the news source. Thanks.

skinsfaninok 04-09-2020 02:48 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
I saw a report that he failed that during the season, have not heard of a failed physical of late

sdskinsfan2001 04-09-2020 02:51 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1249030]Tua apparently failed a physical according to some GM "in the top 10"[/quote]

My bet is Miami. "Failed" him.

skinsfaninok 04-09-2020 04:20 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
Man Fuck ESPN. They never say anything good about the skins. [IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200409/8216df5d1365183f4a4ebda294025f80.jpg[/IMG]

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sdskinsfan2001 04-09-2020 04:35 PM

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Seth Walder will be on IGs Freezing Cold Takes by the end of the season.

SFREDSKIN 04-09-2020 06:20 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
Who is this Seth Walder douchebag, he doesn’t know shit.

Pervis_Griffith 04-09-2020 07:20 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
This Chase Young breakdown may have already been posted over here ... so I apologize for cluttering the board if so ...

But if not ... this is fun to watch.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=606&v=aUCZgt_XG2c&feature=emb_logo[/url]

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-09-2020 10:58 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1249031]Please name the news source. Thanks.[/quote]

[url]https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article241873141.html[/url]

Warthog 04-09-2020 11:17 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
Read what Rivera said about the draft and our #2 pick. Our pick should be an “Impact player”, someone who can “change the team”. That sure sounds A LOT like Chase Young to me. Drafting Chase fixes the defense immediately. The pass rush suddenly becomes fierce and covers any holes the team has at CB or DB.

I agree that the inability to interview players before the draft decreases the chances of any RG3-like trades.

Although many have argued about a big trade for Chase Young, I just don’t see it. Miami can most likely sit at their current draft spot and STILL get TUA. Also, Miami is really the ONLY team with enough high-end draft picks to make a big trade. Why even come to us? If they are REALLY worried about Tua they just go to Detroit.

BL - Rivera is a defensive-minded guy. He knows what Chase Young can do for the defense. It appears that the team’s strategy this year is to fix the defense. So Chase will be the superstar draftee.

They tried to get Cooper, to bring the offense around, but that didn’t work. So the offense will be a work in progress. They thought Hooper was overpriced for his talent versus salary. So, unless Kyle Smith gets super lucky in the draft at TE, that position will NOT be addressed this year. The OL will be shakier than last year.


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KI Skins Fan 04-09-2020 11:26 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1249053][url]https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article241873141.html[/url][/quote]

Thanks. He does seem to be an injury risk. Surgeries on both ankles for sprains? I've never heard of such a thing.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-09-2020 11:57 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1249055]Thanks. He does seem to be an injury risk. Surgeries on both ankles for sprains? I've never heard of such a thing.[/quote]

Depending on how severe the sprains are yeah it is a thing, especially to come back sooner. But he is definitely an injury risk and honestly I dont think he ever stays healthy

skinsfaninok 04-10-2020 10:13 AM

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So they had that Seth Walder guy on the radio and he didn't trash the skins like I thought he was doing, he was saying they should trade down and add picks since the team is not ready to compete, he said the next option would be to take Tua and trade Haskins (this is very unlikely to happen imo) says that scouts around the league are not high at all on Haskins FWIW.. Also said Haskins will probably sit some anyway due to the time lost in OTA's and minicamp probably.

Chico23231 04-10-2020 10:35 AM

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If Cincy takes CHase Young, imo, I’d consider taking Burrow, BUT I would focus more on the trade offers as I believe we could take in a record haul from Miami...4 #1s, and this year 2nd round and maybe 3rd or 4th in 2022.

I seriously believe we could get that if Cincy would take CY

skinsfaninok 04-10-2020 10:52 AM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1249080]If Cincy takes CHase Young, imo, I’d consider taking Burrow, BUT I would focus more on the trade offers as I believe we could take in a record haul from Miami...4 #1s, and this year 2nd round and maybe 3rd or 4th in 2022.

I seriously believe we could get that if Cincy would take CY[/quote]

If cincy takes young I'm running to VA myself for Joe Burrow

sdskinsfan2001 04-10-2020 11:57 AM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1249082]If cincy takes young I'm running to VA myself for Joe Burrow[/quote]

What happened to we're not 1 player away and we should trade down. Seems like you want anyone but Haskins to be the QB.

1 out of every 10 posts say you're OK with him. The other 9 subtly or not subtly talk about replacing him.

MTK 04-10-2020 12:00 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
Zero chance Cincy passes on Burrow, but if they did I'm trading the hell outta that #2 pick.

skinsfaninok 04-10-2020 12:03 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1249089]What happened to we're not 1 player away and we should trade down. Seems like you want anyone but Haskins to be the QB.

1 out of every 10 posts say you're OK with him. The other 9 subtly or not subtly talk about replacing him.[/quote]

Doesn't mean I don't like or want Haskins, but if you can upgrade the most important position in the game why would you not? We have done a piss poor job at QB, Lets be honest about it.. It's not just me hating on him and I know it seems that way but after hearing all of the stories this off season are you really not concerned at all?

Jay Gruden
Rob Ryan
D Hall
Portis

All have come out and said the guy isn't ready to play QB in the NFL.. How long do we wait and see until we miss out again? Ask Arizona , they were right on their process.

skinsfaninok 04-10-2020 12:06 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=MTK;1249091]Zero chance Cincy passes on Burrow, but if they did I'm trading the hell outta that #2 pick.[/quote]

If Miami gets to #1 and takes Burrow, we won't get much for #2.. Everyone knows we are taking Young, it's basically a slam dunk already. They could move to #3 to take Tua if a team wanted too.

sdskinsfan2001 04-10-2020 12:09 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1249092]Doesn't mean I don't like or want Haskins, but if you can upgrade the most important position in the game why would you not? We have done a piss poor job at QB, Lets be honest about it.. It's not just me hating on him and I know it seems that way but after hearing all of the stories this off season are you really not concerned at all?

Jay Gruden
Rob Ryan
D Hall
Portis

All have come out and said the guy isn't ready to play QB in the NFL.. How long do we wait and see until we miss out again? Ask Arizona , they were right on their process.[/quote]

All 4 of their opinions are irrelevant to me. Especially Gruden's.

Throwing away a 1st round pick without giving him a fair chance to succeed is ludacris to me.

Especially when considering a game changing pass rusher is 99.99% likely to be there for us.

MTK 04-10-2020 12:10 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1249094]If Miami gets to #1 and takes Burrow, we won't get much for #2.. Everyone knows we are taking Young, it's basically a slam dunk already. They could move to #3 to take Tua if a team wanted too.[/quote]

Yeah I meant if Cincy takes Young, we could get a haul for the #2 pick

skinsfaninok 04-10-2020 12:16 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
SD I even have a Haskins Jersey [emoji23][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200410/d76392a72ee5066c9e5095d99667276b.jpg[/IMG]

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skinsfaninok 04-10-2020 12:18 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=MTK;1249096]Yeah I meant if Cincy takes Young, we could get a haul for the #2 pick[/quote]

Oh yeah then def trade away

skinsfaninok 04-10-2020 12:19 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1249095]All 4 of their opinions are irrelevant to me. Especially Gruden's.

Throwing away a 1st round pick without giving him a fair chance to succeed is ludacris to me.

Especially when considering a game changing pass rusher is 99.99% likely to be there for us.[/quote]

I was in the same boat until about a month or so ago.. But we are taking Young, I know RR wants him and I'm happy with it.. Believe me I'll be getting her jersey also lol

SFREDSKIN 04-10-2020 12:55 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1249095]All 4 of their opinions are irrelevant to me. Especially Gruden's.

Throwing away a 1st round pick without giving him a fair chance to succeed is ludacris to me.

Especially when considering a game changing pass rusher is 99.99% likely to be there for us.[/quote]

Couldn’t agree more.

skinsfaninok 04-11-2020 12:35 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
"Joe doesn't want to play for the Bengals and has told them so" Jordan Palmer.

Wowzers

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Ohioskins 04-11-2020 12:38 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
Who is Jordan Palmer ????

There is an interview with Burrow in today's Columbus Dispatch where Burrow specifically denies that he has told any team that he will not play for them. He also specifically asserts he will play for the team that drafts him.

skinsfaninok 04-11-2020 01:09 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[QUOTE=Ohioskins;1249155]Who is Jordan Palmer ????



There is an interview with Burrow in today's Columbus Dispatch where Burrow specifically denies that he has told any team that he will not play for them. He also specifically asserts he will play for the team that drafts him.[/QUOTE]Carson's little brother. I haven't heard him say that either but he probably wouldn't publicly regardless

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Ohioskins 04-11-2020 01:18 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
Carson Palmer is not exactly a Bengals insider. So I doubt if his younger brother has any greater special knowledge of what is going on inside the Bengals than Carson would.

MTK 04-11-2020 01:25 PM

Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
Burrow has been training with Jordan Palmer who’s now a QB coach

[url]https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/20/joe-burrow-jordan-palmer-nfl-combine-draft-training-breakdown/[/url]


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skinsfaninok 04-11-2020 02:25 PM

Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1249160]Burrow has been training with Jordan Palmer who’s now a QB coach

[url]https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/20/joe-burrow-jordan-palmer-nfl-combine-draft-training-breakdown/[/url]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]So I'm pretty sure he has some insight.. Of course this could all be pre draft drama just for people to talk about something. I don't see why Burrow would hate the Bengals.. Unless he wants to play in warm weather or something

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