Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

Damn there is some intense debate going on here. Might be too intense for the "parking lot" type like me...

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

lol not that intense, just remember one thing go vote today someone died to give your the right to do it. God Bless America and Hail to the skins how about them Cowboys

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;240659]Two step forward and three steps back.[/QUOTE]

We come together 'cause opposites attract! Sigh...paula!

Seriously though. I'd find it hard to care about something that's inevitably going to fail. Which is what I think is what you think. Unless I'm mistaken. From what I've seen of Campbell in college and in the preseason games I just really like the fact that each time I see him getting better. I think he picks up on his mistakes and works on them. A lot of guys plateau early, I think JC has a huge growth curve.

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One last thing then i have to go to bed. What has Little Danny done really to show there light at the end of the tunnell. He fooled me and us in 2000, fired a good coach in 2001 and hired the ball coach and didnt give him a gm. We all love Gibbs but i hate seeing his legacy go down with this terd. Unfortually Gibbs has got caught up in this spending frenzy and its going to kill us. I expected more from Gibbs on the FA. That why until Danny get a real football man we wont be able to win. As a smart business man you would think that Little Danny would figure that out by now. But hey he keeps making money so i guess that matter more than Championships. I've been fooled by the skins in FA since it started. I'm in the show me mode now prove me wrong please. Hail to the skins

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

Brunell did his job - plain and simple. Didn't play outstanding but better than past weeks.

Key is that we won, that's all that matters to me.

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I'm not even lying, I have dreams at night that Brunell gets hurt and JC comes in and plays like Manning. I'm going to bed right now, where my after midnight redskins are undefeated and have won 10 superbowls.

All love.

-peace

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

[QUOTE=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;240669]One last thing then i have to go to bed. What has Little Danny done really to show there light at the end of the tunnell. He fooled me and us in 2000, fired a good coach in 2001 and hired the ball coach and didnt give him a gm. We all love Gibbs but i hate seeing his legacy go down with this terd. Unfortually Gibbs has got caught up in this spending frenzy and its going to kill us. I expected more from Gibbs on the FA. That why until Danny get a real football man we wont be able to win. As a smart business man you would think that Little Danny would figure that out by now. But hey he keeps making money so i guess that matter more than Championships. I've been fooled by the skins in FA since it started. I'm in the show me mode now prove me wrong please. Hail to the skins[/QUOTE]

At some point people have to look past 2000. Yeah it was a disaster but the moves we have made now have not been for stars in the twilight of their careers. There's a lot more to the Marty story but no need to really go into it here. The ball coach era was just a cluster fuck all around behind the scenes.

Snyder does have football men running the organization. You can argue that he doesn't have the right ones but he has them.

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

Enough with living in the past, my god.

Some people can't even let go of Shuler and Howard... give me a break.

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

i'd argue that vinny is not a football man. he may not be running things, but i'd be much happier without him.

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[quote=That Guy;240713]i'd argue that vinny is not a football man. he may not be running things, but i'd be much happier without him.[/quote]

He's much more of a football man than any of our self proclaimed football men here on the boards that's for sure.

Gibbs addressed this yesterday in his press conference and he said he feels this is the right front office setup and it works for them.

As the great Jim Mora once said:

[COLOR=black][B]"You don't know. You just don't know. You may think you know, but you don't know. And you never will."[/B][/COLOR]

I think this applies pretty well to the constant armchair coaching/GM'ing around here.

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

[quote=GTripp0012;240656]Fair enough. Your point is very objective, although a bit undefended. Heres why:

This year his numbers have been stellar. People have made excuses for his numbers, usually fairly subjective reasoning, but then act like these excuses completely dismiss his numbers. Like the short easy passes explain the massive jump in completion %, but then seem to directly conflict the jump in yards per attempt. No one to date has been able to explain the jump in MB's yards per attempt because theres an assuption (an incorrect one) that he never throws deep.[/quote]

while i am aware that Brunell's completion percentage is up yoy, I admit to not knowing the exact numbers associated with an increase in Yards per attempt. I would love to see them. I would suspect that if you were to look at his passes, most would be in the under 10 yards range- with significant yards coming from his recievers gaining YAC. I would not take anything away from Brunell for such plays- as getting the ball to the open man 5 yards away who runs for 20 there after is just as important as tossing for 25. I cannot however, agree that Mark Brunell's numbers have been stellar. What is the basis for comparison? I would argue that you should compare him to other QBs in the league (more specifically- those that aren't in danger of losing their jobs- ie winning). (i have a feeling some will tout the numbers of plummer and mcnair as comparisions- fair enough- but we don't have anyhting close to Broncos or Raven's D). That said, it is entirely possible that we just disagree on the definition of stellar.

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

Brunell was adequate. He made a few passes, and of course, gave the Cowboys a turnover on the botched snap.

What scared me is that, on the Redskins' last drive, when we were setting up for the field goal kick that Novak missed, Brunell snapped the ball with 12 or 13 seconds left on the 25-second clock instead of letting it go to 1 second and leaving the Cowboys with less time. That pass to Witten never would have happened if Brunell had used up that extra time.

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

[quote=rotahe39;240670]Brunell did his job - plain and simple. Didn't play outstanding but better than past weeks.

Key is that we won, that's all that matters to me.[/quote]
thats all that should matter to ant redskin fan. there are no so called style points

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

According to Al Saunders on Comcast last night MB is having his best season ever. I almost fell out of my chair laughing.

Re: Give Props to Brunell
 

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;240656]Fair enough. Your point is very objective, although a bit undefended. Heres why:

This year his numbers have been stellar. People have made excuses for his numbers, usually fairly subjective reasoning, but then act like these excuses completely dismiss his numbers. Like the short easy passes explain the massive jump in completion %, but then seem to directly conflict the jump in yards per attempt. No one to date has been able to explain the jump in MB's yards per attempt because theres an assuption (an incorrect one) that he never throws deep.[/QUOTE]

Tripp, it's been explained ad infinitum. it's YAC - that's a stat, so start doing some serious subtraction. maybe if Distance Thrown was a stat, you would pay attention. maybe if stats only applied when In Contention (and not garbage time) you would stop basing Brunell's HOF application based on his 'stellar' numbers.

beware the number crunchers.