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[quote=44Deezel;661464]No they didn't. Brady didn't play for the 86 Bears or the 2000 Ravens. His Defenses were good, not great. AND Manning has had WAY MORE talent around him, yet he consistently under-achieves. As a matter of fact, if it weren't for Brady's pathetic Receivers (future hall of famers, Troy Brown and Jabar Gaffney) dropping passes, last night would have been Manning's first Super Bowl. Manning is this generations Dan Marino. Brady is this generation's Joe Montana. Manning has 29TDs and 18INTs in the playoffs. AVERAGE!

Manning is Brady's bitch![/quote]

BS. There was no comparison between Indy's defense and NE's during those years. They might not have been the Bears or Ravens but they were pretty damn good. To say otherwise is just ignorant.

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[quote=mlmdub130;661467]many would argue if you take the rings out marino is a much better qb than montana[/quote]

Take the rings out?!?! Let's take out TD passes while we're at it. And passing yards too.

Marino was awesome. Manning is awesome. No argument here.

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[quote=Mattyk;661478]Forget who said it but I like the argument of best of [I]their[/I] time. Makes a little more sense to do it that way since you really can't fairly compare across different eras of the game.[/quote]

good point espescially when we know sammy baugh was the greatest to ever play the game

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[quote=53Fan;661483]BS. There was no comparison between Indy's defense and NE's during those years. They might not have been the Bears or Ravens but they were pretty damn good. To say otherwise is just ignorant.[/quote]

And there's no comparison between Indy's offense and NEs during those years either. Nobody said the Pats had bad Defenses those years, but they aren't even in the discussion of all time great Defenses. Like you said, they were pretty damn good. Not great!

Before this year, Manning was 0-3 when his team was the #1 seed going into the playoffs. Compare his team's regular seasons to their playoff performances, and they chronically UNDER-ACHIEVE!

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NE 2001 OFF Rank -6 DEF Rank-6 Points allowed 272
INDY 2001 OFF Rank -2 DEF Rank-31 Points allowed 486

NE 2003 OFF Rank -12 DEF Rank-1 Points allowed 238
INDY 2003 OFF Rank -2 DEF Rank-20 Points allowed 336

NE 2004 OFF Rank -4 DEF Rank-2 Points allowed 260
INDY 2004 OFF Rank -1 DEF Rank-19 Points allowed 351

If Manning had the same defenses NE had he'd have multiple rings too. He did more with less. Manning's offenses would have been hard-pressed to be anywhere near the top without him. Brady had the luxury of a strong defense getting turnovers and holding down the oppositions score and time on the field. Spin it any way you want. It is what it is.

Re: Super Bowl XLIV Gameday Thread: Saints vs. Colts
 

Its pretty said when the day after the SB the band is more soar then the players.

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[quote=firstdown;661499]Its pretty said when the day after the SB the band is more soar then the players.[/quote]

Luckily for The Who, they can return to their wheelchairs and sponge baths today.

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[quote=Lotus;661502]Luckily for The Who, they can return to their wheelchairs and sponge baths today.[/quote]

:laughing- That was pretty lame. My GF wasn't even sure who they were. She asked me if the league got them to play because of "Who Dat." I really couldn't give a good reason why they were chosen to play. Maybe it was Seniors Week in Miami? Or is it always Seniors Week in Miami?

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[quote=53Fan;661505]:laughing- That was pretty lame. My GF wasn't even sure who they were. She asked me if the league got them to play because of "Who Dat." I really couldn't give a good reason why they were chosen to play. Maybe it was Seniors Week in Miami? Or is it always Seniors Week in Miami?[/quote]

I've loved The Who for decades so I have nothing against the choice. But it sure was Old Geezers Hour. At least with the geriatrics there can be no "wardrobe malfunctions." If Roger Daltrey had shown some nipple, the stadium would have cleared and the second half would have been canceled.

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[quote=itvnetop;661425]Garrett Hartley was money for the Saints... long FG's kept them in the game early and that onside kick was awesome.[/quote]

Hartley didn't kick the onside kick though, thought was Morstead.

By the way, who'd have thunk the Cardinals and Saints, two franchises whose names have been synonymous for decades with incompetence, would be repping the NFC in the SB in back to back years?

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[quote=SmootSmack;661511]Hartley didn't kick the onside kick though, thought was Morstead.

[B]By the way, who'd have thunk the Cardinals and Saints, two franchises whose names have been synonymous for decades with incompetence, would be repping the NFC in the SB in back to back years?[/B][/quote]

Maybe the Skins time is near? ;)

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[quote=Lotus;661508]I've loved The Who for decades so I have nothing against the choice. But it sure was Old Geezers Hour. [B] At least with the geriatrics there can be no "wardrobe malfunctions." If Roger Daltrey had shown some nipple, the stadium would have cleared and the second half would have been canceled[/B].[/quote]

:laughing2

Janet Jackson costume malfuntion = :thumb:

Roger Daltrey costume malfuntion = :eek:

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The SB halftime was once again a snooze-fest. The Who? Really?

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[quote=Lotus;661508]I've loved The Who for decades so I have nothing against the choice. But it sure was Old Geezers Hour. At least with the geriatrics there can be no "wardrobe malfunctions." If Roger Daltrey had shown some nipple, the stadium would have cleared and the second half would have been canceled.[/quote]

That's exactly why they were picked, they are safe. Its funny that they are considered safe now considering how out there they were back in their hey-day.

I love The Who but last night they sucked. The vocals had no power/energy and everything seemd slow & tired.

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60 year old rock stars trying to recapture their youth is kinda sad really. Maybe good for a 70's or 80's retro tour but that's about it.