Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=#56fanatic;800796]Not saying he doesn't deserve some blame. Some of his pics were bad throws, but majority of them were either tipped by the receivers, or piss poor routes (galloway stands out). He was sacked or hurried as much or more than any QB in the leauge. I agree he is done here, but I dont think it is or should be based on his performance being horrible. I just hope who ever is under center has better protection and a better run game that last year. Torain really ran the ball well last year, problem was he was injured too much.[/quote]

I cannot remember the last time I saw McNabb hit a reciever in stride. As bad as he was (and NO he generally did not get great protecton), he was worse than his numbers would suggest. Our WR had to slow down, stop, break off the route etc just to pull in the ball.
He may work out for somebody else, but he is not the kind of guy we are looking for. He has proven to be a masterful politician, and a mediocre QB who requires things on his terms. I find that unnacceptable. He was treated....surly or so it appears.
Good bye....Good luck, your not our type of guy. LOOK at the type of guy we drafted...........

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Lotus;800803]To me it depends on how the criticism is couched:

a) some analysts have argued, "Who will play QB in 2011?," and downgraded us. That seems like poor criticism. No one in this year's class, it seems, should be an immediate starter, not even my boy Ponder. There just was no Ryan or Bradford in this year's class. So when critics slam us essentially for not picking an immediate QB starter, I think they are off base.

[B]b) conversely, some analysts like Kiper have argued that we failed to take care of the future of our QB situation. These critics appear to be correct.[/B][/quote]

That's my argument. But hey, I hope I'm wrong about Beck (maybe even Grossman is our future QB) and the offseason isn't done yet

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

I believe this draft class is pretty weak. Almost every one of them was taken higher than they really should have been compared to recent history. I agree we have not taken care of the future at QB. I am not convinced any of the futures offered to us in the draft were worth pursuing.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

Next year will be the time to grab a QB of the future.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

Hopefully we get the number one pick next year or someone like CAR (that is set at QB or not willing to draft another QB) has it and is willing to trade. I love to have Andrew Luck.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Mattyk;800830]Next year will be the time to grab a QB of the future.[/quote]

I have to reluctantly agree. I am a huge Locker fan, but after he was taken at #8 we were SOL. IMO it would have been even worse if the FO then just took a QB (who they weren't sold on as potentially being "the guy") just to say we got one. If the guy you beleive in isn't there, then move on to other positions of need. I'm surprised by some of the criticism. Like taking a 5th or 6th round QB was going to make us a better football team?

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Son Of Man;800834]I have to reluctantly agree. I am a huge Locker fan, but after he was taken at #8 we were SOL. IMO it would have been even worse if the FO then just took a QB (who they weren't sold on as potentially being "the guy") just to say we got one. If the guy you beleive in isn't there, then move on to other positions of need. I'm surprised by some of the criticism. [B]Like taking a 5th or 6th round QB was going to make us a better football team[/B]?[/quote]

Definitely not, for this year at least. Depending on how long the CBA situation drags out, the potential impact for a rookie QB could be minimal this year.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Mattyk;800830]Next year will be the time to grab a QB of the future.[/quote]

Really? Who besides Luck

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

Luck is the only QB coming out? lol


Kipers top 5 QBs for 2012 (draft eligible)

1. Andrew Luck
2. Nick Foles
3. Kirk Cousins
4. Brandon Weeden
5. Ryan Tannehill

Analysis: This is an interesting list right off the bat. Luck will command the most attention, for sure. Even with a new coach, he will be a front-runner for No. 1 in the 2012 NFL draft from August onward. Weeden put up video-game-esque numbers in Stillwater and could do it again with WR Justin Blackmon returning. Weeden does lose his O-coordinator. Foles has all the measurables.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;800841]Really? Who besides Luck[/quote]

Barkley out of USC gets better and better each year and has the mobility needed to run this offense. Then there's also Foles from Arizona, Pryor from OSU, or Jones from Oklahoma if he declares early.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;800841]Really? Who besides Luck[/quote]

Matt Barkley- USC
Tyler Wilson- Arkansas
Brandon Weeden- OSU
Landry Jones- OU
Kirk Cousins- Michigan State


*In no particular order.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

SHould have taken Mallett.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Mattyk;800843]Luck is the only QB coming out? lol


Kipers top 5 QBs for 2012 (draft eligible)

1. Andrew Luck
2. Nick Foles
3. Kirk Cousins
4. Brandon Weeden
5. Ryan Tannehill

Analysis: This is an interesting list right off the bat. Luck will command the most attention, for sure. Even with a new coach, he will be a front-runner for No. 1 in the 2012 NFL draft from August onward. Weeden put up video-game-esque numbers in Stillwater and could do it again with WR Justin Blackmon returning. Weeden does lose his O-coordinator. Foles has all the measurables.[/quote]


Weeden is about 27 years old, played baseball for a few years. Reminds me of Chad Hutchinson.

I like Nick Foles

Kirk Cousins looks decent but not better than Gabbert or Mallett IMO.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Son Of Man;800846]Matt Barkley- USC
[B]Tyler Wilson- Arkansas[/B]
Brandon Weeden- OSU
Landry Jones- OU
Kirk Cousins- Michigan State


*In no particular order.[/quote]

WHO?


And Landry Jones has a chance to become a Mallett type QB but thats yet to be seen

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

Who can believe what Shannahan says? His word is untrustworthy. He has a plan at QB. Yeah, and I have a plan to win the lottery. He had a plan at the draft and I think it backfired. I hope his plan includes trading Haynesworth for a starting quarterback. I think Vince Young, Kyle Orton and Carson Palmer are equals. Not for one minute did I believe John Beck is our starter. Just like I didn't believe the multiple excuses for benching McNabb. Shanny is shaky.