Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

RBs are a dime a dozen. Nobody usually gives up much in a trade unless it's for a top guy.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

[quote=hooskins;818476]Perhaps, I should have been clearer. I absolutely understand AZ's perspective. They already have good RBs and Hightower was not a necessity.

My question is, why weren't other teams after him which would in turn drive up the price? Not trying to be negative, but just a thought/concern. Either way, I am happy with the deal.[/quote]

I could be wrong, but I think there wasn't much of a demand for RBs this offseason. Some big names were out there Reggie Bush (trade), Bradshaw, and D. Williams. But I just didn't see such a demand for RBs. Which makes me wonder if CP will get any opportunities.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

My guess is that not many teams are in the market for a running back. The days of the premier back are gone. Most teams already have 2 good backs. Hell, Dallas had 3 and let one go.

There are still a few quality running backs that are free agents. There was no need for anyone else to be looking for TH as far as I'm concerned. There is also the possibility that other teams were waiting to see if he would be released instead of trading for him.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

[quote=hooskins;818476]Perhaps, I should have been clearer. I absolutely understand AZ's perspective. They already have good RBs and Hightower was not a necessity.

My question is, why weren't other teams after him which would in turn drive up the price? Not trying to be negative, but just a thought/concern. Either way, I am happy with the deal.[/quote]

Many teams already have a RB that provides at least some of what Hightower provides or are looking for an RB with a different skillset. No reason to start coughing up fourths and thirds for him.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

Hightowers a decent running back, don't get me wrong. But he fumbles a lot. Which then makes me wonder, who fumbles more Torain or Hightower? I think more than likely we will trade Torain to a team in need of a RB, keep hightower, Helu, and Royster.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

What made you to think that he fumbles alot? He fumbled only 12 times with 439 carries & 118 catches. I would say that's low.

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Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

He put it on the ground 5 times last year. He needs to clean that up.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

[quote=GridIron26;818555]What made you to think that he fumbles alot? He fumbled only 12 times with 439 carries & 118 catches. I would say that's low.

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Hightower was tied for the fifth most fumbles in the league at 4. Thats bad. Even considering the next Redskins to appear on the list was Torain tied at 19th on the list at 2 fumbles.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

[quote=GreekSkin;818404]What exactly makes our O-line so bad?[/quote]

Lack of ability to pass protect and marginal ability to block for running plays.

That about sums it up.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

[quote=Mattyk;818452]So back on topic,

I love SC's optimism, but if Hightower ends up being mentioned in the same breath as some of the great Redskins we've had at RB I will be shocked.

I love his work ethic and versatility, great pickup and I still can't believe we got him for what we did, but I'm not seeing an all time great in the works.

I'd love to be wrong though.[/quote]

Matty:

I am not predicting "an all time great" here.

I said he had the potential to be the best Skins' RB since Riggo. That was almost 30 years ago and since then the Skins have only had a handful of good running backs - - and have had exactly ZERO great ones.

Hightower is a young guy who could give the Redskins a string of seasons with 1200 yards rushing and another 750 yards receiving while also providing something more than a blocking dummy in pass protection situations. That will not make him an "all time great" but it would be a nice upgrade...

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

I hear ya, I guess I'm not seeing that potential greatness. I still only see him as a 3rd down type of back. Not that there's anything wrong with that, a guy that can block and catch some passes on 3rd downs is a nice thing to have.

Torain will have a role assuming he can stay healthy and Helu has been flashing, so I'm not seeing Hightower coming in and being the workhorse.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

An underrated part of this trade is that the Redskins seem to have a clear picture of how Hightower fits into what they are trying to do on offense this year. It's everything the Bowen/Atogwe/Cofield signings weren't.

There's a lot of good things about Hightower. He adds value with his blocking, and he's on an upswing in his career. He was not a good player at all in 08 or 09. He was average in 2010, and perhaps impressively so behind a sieve of an OL.

Put another way: Hightower was more valuable in Arizona last year behind a horrible OL and a team that almost never led and trailed by a lot than Torain was here on a team that lead a fair amount and had a merely below average OL.

Again, I would rather have kept the late round pick because we're only getting one year of Tim Hightower with this trade, and it's not a particularly valuable year with the Redskins well behind in the NFC East. But it would appear he's going to play a role in this offense and be a meaningful contributor.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

See, this is what I love about Warpath. SC thinks Hightower has Riggo potential, Matty thinks he'll be more of a third down back. But neither of them called the other stupid or asshole for having varying opinions so far apart.

Just something I noticed and it's worth pointing out from time to time.

Myself, I think Hightower will be more like Eric Dickerson.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

[quote=12thMan;818726]See, this is what I love about Warpath. SC thinks Hightower has Riggo potential, Matty thinks he'll be more of a third down back. But neither of them called the other stupid or asshole for having varying opinions so far apart.

Just something I noticed and it's worth pointing out from time to time.

[B]Myself, I think Hightower will be more like Eric Dickerson[/B].[/quote]

Well I think he's going to be a role player and, also, that your a stupid asshole for having an opinion that varies so far from mine.

I'd facepalm, but I think I used my alotment earlier.

Re: Arizona RB Tim Hightower traded to Redskins.
 

Hightower is Dickerson now?

Dickerson is one of the best RBs ever. I'm not sure there is any RB in the league now that can compare to him, Adrian Peterson (TD or fumble) included.