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SmootSmack 09-28-2011 07:27 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;841999]Maybe he will stay as just an HBACK?[/quote]

I mean for me the story on Monday wasn't so much CC vs. Davis. It's that with our starting FB (Young) out, instead of going to the proven veteran FB in Sellers we went to Cooley. Sellers has to be on the short list of potential cuts once Buchanon is ready to return

skinsfaninok 09-28-2011 08:04 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
Mike hasn't played much is he really that bad now? I always likes him

SirClintonPortis 09-28-2011 09:13 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=Bushead;842066]It's the wrong call because it didn't work. If it works, we think it was the best call. I think it's wrong to judge every play call by whether it works or doesn't work because their coaches on the other side who are getting paid to try and out smart you like you are them and then you have players who are executing the play calls.

Cowboys blocked perfectly on that. Tony did a good job rolling out. Hall did not execute by staying on top of the route. Dez caught the pass. Think there is a lot more factors.

If they only rushed four and Tony picked up the 1st, then everyone would be saying "why not send more people when it's 3rd and 21? Then they have to do a quick pass?"

Let's not forget their players on the field too.[/quote]

It is much easier to stop something if you know what is coming. If I showed my hand in poker, it's a loss for me unless my hand is a "perfect" one. If bin Laden told us where he was ****ing hiding, he would have been killed long time ago. The same ****ing shit applies to football. And don't tell me we have the "god-like" personnel that can run through people as if they didn't have mass, because they sure ****ing did.

Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. Fool me three times? **** you, I'm roasting your ass.

Slingin Sammy 33 09-28-2011 09:37 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=Bushead;842066]It's the wrong call because it didn't work. If it works, we think it was the best call. I think it's wrong to judge every play call by whether it works or doesn't work because their coaches on the other side who are getting paid to try and out smart you like you are them and then you have players who are executing the play calls.[/quote]No, it's the wrong call because it was the wrong call. If it worked, I'm sure many would've called it a great playcall. I would've still said it was a bad playcall and we were fortunate to get away with it.

[quote]Cowboys blocked perfectly on that. Tony did a good job rolling out. Hall did not execute by staying on top of the route. Dez caught the pass. Think there is a lot more factors.[/quote]The Cowturds blocked it perfrectly because they had seen it at least four other times in the game and on the two previous plays. Granted Hall could've played it better, but you're putting the guy on an island for no reason. The situation did not warrant or need the risk, plain and simple.

[quote]If they only rushed four and Tony picked up the 1st, then everyone would be saying "why not send more people when it's 3rd and 21? Then they have to do a quick pass?"[/quote]If we only rushed four and played 7 in coverage the chance of them picking up the 3 & 21 would've been a lot less....but had they picked it up it would've likely been missed tackles, a blown coverage, or the Cowturd player just making a fantastic play. All those things would be mistakes made by the players, either physical or mental, or just a great play by Dallass and we'd have to live with it.

[quote]Let's not forget their players on the field too.[/quote]Coaching in football is soooo much more important than any other sport. The coaches are as important as the players. The job of the coaches is to maximize the players' talents and minimize/hide their weaknesses. In this situation Haslett did a poor job. If Kerrigan had a coverage responsibility that is not maximizing his push rushing talent. Putting D. Hall on an island against a bigger, stronger, and very athletic WR is not minimizing his size disadvantage and his tendency to blow coverages, particularly in space.

As I mentioned earlier, I am by no means blaming the loss on Haslett and/or the D, or this specific play. The D played well in the first half, and above average in the second half. I put this loss on whatever was causing the poor footing for the Skins in the first half, a few OL breakdowns/losing individual battles, KS's playcalling particularly in the 2nd half, and Grossman being who he is, has been, and will continue to be.

skins89moss 09-29-2011 05:38 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=mooby;841158]Also want to call out red zone offense as well. Even though the Cowboys won the game exclusively by field goals, I still maintain you cannot consistently win games by settling for field goals. Good teams find ways to score touchdowns. We did that in week 1 but this is now two consecutive weeks our red zone offense has not done the job.[/quote]

Hello we did score 1 more TD than the cowgirls. The difference was we blew a fg attempt with the fumbled hold.

skins89moss 09-29-2011 05:43 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;841233]The skins haven't been good in the R.Z in 20 years[/quote]

Our offense has been having trouble scoring points since Norv Turner was fired. Norv sucked as a HC but we did put up points with him.

skins89moss 09-29-2011 06:01 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
Hey Redskins fans lets stop crying, 1 loss 1 game this season. Damn yes it sucks that we let this game get away from us. But thats why you have to play 4 full quaters of football. On the road you cannot let the team hang around. Our defense played a very good game but did give up a few big runs to Felix Jones. I did not like the 3rd and 21 call but I could not understand why Kerrigan stop rushing Romo and dropped back into coverage. WTF was he thinking at that point. Our O-Line did have problems blocking Ware and Jamal Brown got abused a few times. Next years draft RT, and Guard. The Dallas game is over lets get focused on the Rams who have beaten us the last 2 games we have played them. Rex Grossman's numbers were just as good or bad as Romo's numbers after the game. So stop crying about Rex he not a All-Pro but he can get the job done with a team effort. Special teams have to step it up, no more botched FG's.

SirClintonPortis 09-29-2011 09:29 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=skins89moss;842133]Hey Redskins fans lets stop crying, 1 loss 1 game this season. Damn yes it sucks that we let this game get away from us. But thats why you have to play 4 full quaters of football. On the road you cannot let the team hang around. Our defense played a very good game but did give up a few big runs to Felix Jones. I did not like the 3rd and 21 call but I could not understand why Kerrigan stop rushing Romo and dropped back into coverage. WTF was he thinking at that point. Our O-Line did have problems blocking Ware and Jamal Brown got abused a few times. Next years draft RT, and Guard. The Dallas game is over lets get focused on the Rams who have beaten us the last 2 games we have played them. Rex Grossman's numbers were just as good or bad as Romo's numbers after the game. So stop crying about Rex he not a All-Pro but he can get the job done with a team effort. Special teams have to step it up, no more botched FG's.[/quote]

Kerrigan had to back off to make sure the TE or RB he ran did not slip into the flat and get a HUGE gain a la Derrick Ward 2008.

Skip to 1:30 of the video.
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skinsguy 09-29-2011 10:00 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=skins89moss;842131]Hello we did score 1 more TD than the cowgirls. The difference was we blew a fg attempt with the fumbled hold.[/quote]


That's true. Had that FG attempt not been botched, the 'skins could have won by 1. Funny thing though, I don't hear a lot of bragging coming from the Cowboys fans here at work. I think they know this game was gift wrapped.

CRedskinsRule 09-29-2011 12:16 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
on the video of 3rd and 21, looks like Fletcher went after the RB for a second, and then full speed towards Romo. I didn't realize Romo was 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage, but if Fletcher had gone straight he would have rushed the throw a bit. Just to be clear I'm not knocking Fletcher, overall it was a good play by dallas...

mooby 09-29-2011 01:29 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=skins89moss;842131]Hello we did score 1 more TD than the cowgirls. The difference was we blew a fg attempt with the fumbled hold.[/quote]

You say 1 more touchdown than the Cowboys like it meant we were scoring touchdowns all day. We didn't. We scored one touchdown in 3 actual red zone attempts, and the other field goals were from close enough to the redzone that we should've scored. 1 touchdown a game is not a recipe for success. True, if we had made that field goal it would've changed the game, but at the end of the day, if you score touchdowns, you don't have to settle for field goals. Let's not act like we're some offensive powerhouse in the red zone.

Ruhskins 09-29-2011 01:37 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=skinsguy;842185]That's true. Had that FG attempt not been botched, the 'skins could have won by 1. Funny thing though, [B]I don't hear a lot of bragging coming from the Cowboys fans here at work.[/B] I think they know this game was gift wrapped.[/quote]

I think the way both teams played, there wasn't much to brag about.

Giantone 09-29-2011 04:24 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=skinsguy;842185]That's true. Had that FG attempt not been botched, the 'skins could have won by 1. Funny thing though, I don't hear a lot of bragging coming from the Cowboys fans here at work. I think they know this game was gift wrapped.[/quote]

Doesn't matter how they won,they won..."gift wrap"or not".There are plenty of good teams out there but there is always an eliment of luck in anything.I'd rather be lucky then good any day!

skinsfaninok 09-29-2011 04:28 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
Idk about being lucky then good but I do agree that good teams will catch breaks at times.

over the mountain 09-29-2011 04:30 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins at Cowboys)
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;842232]on the video of 3rd and 21, looks like Fletcher went after the RB for a second, and then full speed towards Romo. I didn't realize Romo was 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage, but if Fletcher had gone straight he would have rushed the throw a bit. Just to be clear I'm not knocking Fletcher, overall it was a good play by dallas...[/quote]

kerrigan said they thought they were going to try a screen pass so right after he initially rushed he dropped back . . . he gave a pretty good breakdown of what he was thinking on the play in his postgame interview.

sirclinton - its "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."


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