Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

John Beck is arguably worse than JaMarcus Russell. Yes, I said it.

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;860205]John Beck is arguably worse than JaMarcus Russell. Yes, I said it.[/quote]

Lotus is a better QB than John Beck

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;860205]John Beck is arguably worse than JaMarcus Russell. Yes, I said it.[/quote]Send them both to Hawaii for one of them shirt and shorts QB challenges.

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

For what it's worth, I think Barkley stays, Griffin stays, Jones comes out.

Preliminary Rankings:

Luck
Jones
Foles
Tannehill
Moore
Cousins

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=GTripp0012;860208]For what it's worth, I think Barkley stays, Griffin stays, Jones comes out.

Preliminary Rankings:

Luck
Jones
Foles
Tannehill
Moore
Cousins[/quote]


I think Barkley and Rg3 come out (I hope)

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

Heres the best, average, and worst case scenarios for each QB as how I see them.

Luck:
Best case- Peyton Manning
Average case- Matt Ryan
Worst case- alex smith

Barkley:
BC- Eli Manning
AC- Mark Sanchez
WC- Matt Leinart

Landry:
BC- Jay Cutler
AC- Matt Cassel
WC- AJ Feely

Foles:
BC- Tom Brady
AC- Joe Flacco
WC- John Skelton

RGIII:
BC- Mike Vick(more accurate)
AC- Andy Dalton
WC- Vince Young

Kellen Moore:
BC: Drew Brees
AC: Chad Pennington
WC: Dave Roseden

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

Considering our current QB status, I think any of us would be fine with Dave Roseden

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;860211]Heres the best, average, and worst case scenarios for each QB as how I see them.

Luck:
Best case- Peyton Manning
Average case- Matt Ryan
Worst case- alex smith

Barkley:
BC- Eli Manning
AC- Mark Sanchez
WC- Matt Leinart

Landry:
BC- Jay Cutler
AC- Matt Cassel
WC- AJ Feely

Foles:
BC- Tom Brady
AC- Joe Flacco
WC- John Skelton

RGIII:
BC- Mike Vick(more accurate)
AC- Andy Dalton
WC- Vince Young

Kellen Moore:
BC: Drew Brees
AC: Chad Pennington
WC: Dave Roseden[/quote]



Not bad although I'd say LJ would be more like Flacco than Foles but good view of all players

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=SmootSmack;860213]Considering our current QB status, I think any of us would be fine with Dave Roseden[/quote]


Pshhh give me Tim Tebow and I'd be stoked compared to what we have now, hell I'd rather throw 8 times per game

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;860214]Not bad although I'd say LJ would be more like Flacco than Foles but good view of all players[/quote]

My reasoning is because Landry can't throw the deep ball as far or as well as Foles, IMO (based on what I've seen the few times I've seen the 2 QB's play)

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

My ideal 1st and 2nd round draft choices to get some fire power on offense:

Round 1: Robert Griffin III Baylor
Round 2: Jeff Fuller Texas A&M or Juron Criner Arizona

I am impressed with both those receivers and think they are worth 2nd round picks. The are both 6'4 220 pounds and can go get the ball. The more I see and read about RGIII the more impressed I am. He has a really strong arm and can move.

RGIII
Helu
F. Davis
C. Cooley
Hankerson
Fuller/Criner
Moss

With these guys at the skilled positions next year we would have a chance to really start to grow as an offense. HTTR!!! 2012 is finally going to be the year we see drastic improvements.

After those picks the areas of need I think are the highest are O-Line, CB, ILB

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

OL, OL, OL.

we don't need WRs, what we've got is fine. We DO need to keep our QB from getting killed and that includes injury insurance. we could use a starting OG, RT and a swing starter. the ONLY thing we should opt out of OL for is a QB.

any time you see average RBs or WRs or QBs doing well, it's probably because they can keep their uniforms clean.

moss/gaffney/hankerson/armstrong/davis/cooley will be fine, even if we lose a TE to free agency. very few WRs are randy moss like in production, especially year 1.

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;860205]John Beck is arguably worse than JaMarcus Russell. Yes, I said it.[/quote]

You're absolutely right. At least Russell has a win as a starting quarterback at the NFL level.

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;860218]My ideal 1st and 2nd round draft choices to get some fire power on offense:

Round 1: Robert Griffin III Baylor
Round 2: [B]Jeff Fuller Texas A&M or Juron Criner Arizona[/B]

I am impressed with both those receivers and think they are worth 2nd round picks. The are both 6'4 220 pounds and can go get the ball. The more I see and read about RGIII the more impressed I am. He has a really strong arm and can move.

RGIII
Helu
F. Davis
C. Cooley
Hankerson
Fuller/Criner
Moss

With these guys at the skilled positions next year we would have a chance to really start to grow as an offense. HTTR!!! 2012 is finally going to be the year we see drastic improvements.

After those picks the areas of need I think are the highest are O-Line, CB, ILB[/quote]

I disagree. WR is a need, but CB and MLB are greater needs for this team. Plus Fuller has been disappointing (hasn't had a 100 yard receiving game this year) Criner is good because of Foles, but is often injured and is eerly similar to hankerson.

Dont'a Hightower or Janoris Jenkins or Jayron Hosely would be better picks in the 2nd than him...keep in mind we're on pace to have a high second round pick...

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;860225]I disagree. WR is a need, but CB and MLB are greater needs for this team. Plus Fuller has been disappointing (hasn't had a 100 yard receiving game this year) Criner is good because of Foles, but is often injured and is eerly similar to hankerson.

Dont'a Hightower or Janoris Jenkins or Jayron Hosely would be better picks in the 2nd than him...keep in mind we're on pace to have a high second round pick...[/quote]

I wouldn't have a problem with Hightower and Hosely, those are solid selections. I do not want Jenkins. I want a team full of Kerrigans and bring the lunch pale type guys.

But our offense is just so bad, I feel like our 1st two rounds are needed to get some talent that can make some plays. Fuller has 32 career TD's and Criner has 29, it would be nice to have some guys that have potential to score. You can't penalize a receiver for having a good quarterback, most good receivers have good qb's. I also wouldnt mind getting McNutt from Iowa either, he is a big receiver too and has made a lot of plays when I have seen him play this season (wow just looked at his stats 65 Catches - 1089 yards).

We have so many needs though I'm not against quality players at any position besides TE that will help our team. I'm also looking forward to getting Jarvis Jenkins back, he seems like he will be a solid player, hope the recovery is going as scheduled.

If we were able to get RG III I would consider the whole draft a success regardless of what way they choose to go w/ the rest of the picks.