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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;950688][B]Chris: [/B] i know some things. Hes frustrated with his consistency... and then there's other elements to it that i'm not quite sure if that, you know, necessarily belongs in this forum, but you know - Graham is a very religious person and i've heard some things that that irked some people. So you know, there's something to that i beleive. I don't know that absolutely 100% for sure, and i dont want to accuse somebody of something, but that is what i was told.[/I][/quote]



While I think that part may have irked Shanny, I seriously doubt he got rid of him because of that. Even CR hints at this being a rumor, but not sure he ties it to why Gano was cut. I think Gano was cut because he's too damn inconsistent and if he could be replaced by somebody equal that Mike liked, he would be. Now, maybe Mike disliked Gano on a personal level due to him being a preachy/openly religious. I can buy that.

Either way, it's good info and thanks for sharing. :)

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edit: Correction


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[url=http://Spotrac.com]Spotrac.com :: The Spot for Sports Contracts :: Homepage[/url] made a error and still has Cundiffs old contract numbers up for the #Redskins. Cundiff signed for Vet min & 65k.


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wow...was about to say...lol

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Who is LL@HTTR24_7? is it Laron?

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[quote=kct1975;950692]Agreed

KCT - "No Matter Where You Go, There You Are!"[/quote]

Ok, I've made your quote your sig so feel free to remove it from your posts moving forward

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[quote=mredskins;950709]Who is LL@HTTR24_7? is it Laron?[/quote]



No. He's a ES insider. His information is usually legit and matches most of what Smoot says. Most likely have the same sources. He does good break down on film with the all 22 footage.


[quote=SmootSmack;950712]Ok, I've made your quote your sig so feel free to remove it from your posts moving forward[/quote]

That has to be a pain in the ass to do on each post...lol

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[quote=NC_Skins;950702]While I think that part may have irked Shanny, I seriously doubt he got rid of him because of that. Even CR hints at this being a rumor, but not sure he ties it to why Gano was cut. I think Gano was cut because he's too damn inconsistent and if he could be replaced by somebody equal that Mike liked, he would be. Now, maybe Mike disliked Gano on a personal level due to him being a preachy/openly religious. I can buy that.

Either way, it's good info and thanks for sharing. :)[/quote]

I honestly dont agree that Gano was THAT inconsistent. The blocks from last year were not his fault. In my opinion, he was the best we'd had in a while, but thats not saying much. Of the guys out there now, i think he's the best available - by a wide margin. I want Cundiff gone as much as the next guy, but i think Cundiff is better than any of the guys we're supposedly bringing in today. We may be "stuck" with Cundiff.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;950716]I honestly dont agree that Gano was THAT inconsistent. The blocks from last year were not his fault. In my opinion, he was the best we'd had in a while, but thats not saying much. Of the guys out there now, i think he's the best available - by a wide margin. I want Cundiff gone as much as the next guy, but i think Cundiff is better than any of the guys we're supposedly bringing in today. We may be "stuck" with Cundiff.[/quote]


I happen to agree with you. I was not in favor of cutting Gano for Cundiff. I didn't think it was a upgrade in any shape, form or fashion. This is one of the few mistakes Mike has made during his tenure (McNabb, Haslett, Cundiff,Danny Smith) that I haven't agreed with.

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Any chance that instead of Gano not trying out because of an issue between him and Shanahan, it has more to do with him being the default option and were just doing our due dilligence on other kickers first?

So if More, Brown, Forbath or whoever else might come in to kick doesnt look better than Gano, then Gano gets the job? Or is it offically over between the Skins and Gano at this point?

Also i [I]think[/I] there are limitations to how many guys you can have in to try out each week. Maybe 3 or so kickers plus some other routine workout guys we will never hear about have already filled the allowed amount?

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[quote=NC_Skins;950706]More joyful news.


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Cundiffs has the 8th highest base salary among all NFL kickers.


LL ‏@HTTR24_7

Billy Cundiff 2012 salary 2.2 million dollars.


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:doh:[/quote]

Um....what?

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It's safe to say that Cundiff is on a burning hot seat. He knows he better not miss anymore close range field goals from here on out.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;950716][B]I honestly dont agree that Gano was THAT inconsistent.[/B] The blocks from last year were not his fault. In my opinion, he was the best we'd had in a while, but thats not saying much. Of the guys out there now, i think he's the best available - by a wide margin. I want Cundiff gone as much as the next guy, but i think Cundiff is better than any of the guys we're supposedly bringing in today. We may be "stuck" with Cundiff.[/quote]


What? take a look at his stats. dude also had a propensity to kick the ball out of bounds on kickoffs. Clearly if he was consistent he would be here.

We finally need to address this in the offseason.

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Gano had all of 2010 and 2011 to prove that he belonged on the team. Obviously Mike Shanahan's patience with him grew thinner and thinner. But I just didn't like how the job was taken away from Gano and handed so freely to Cundiff. Cundiff, seemingly the better option, never beat Gano in head to head competition for the kicking job.

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[quote=SmootSmack;950731]Um....what?[/quote]

eh?

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[quote=NC_Skins;950740]eh?[/quote]

That just doesn't sound right

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[quote=SmootSmack;950743]That just doesn't sound right[/quote]

It's not. Made the correction. The site he pulled it from still had his old contract listed.