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[url=http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/61410aa4ff]Gina Gershon Strips Down Sarah Palin [/url]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;475168]Is anyone watching the forum tonight?[/quote]


Yes, the sad part is it's a forum to encourage community service.

Very funny stuff:
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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;475166]Saden:

I do not think it was fair to ask Palin, "Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?" The "Bush Doctrine" has never been clearly defined; it encompasses several different ideas. I spent less than 5 minutes googling the "Bush Doctrine" and, according to a few articles in well known sources (e.g., the WaPo), the "Bush Doctrine" has been used to refer to the notion that: (1) terrorists must be defeated; (2) our nation has the right to wage preventative wars; (3) allowing terrorists to reside in your country is the same as supporting terrorism; (4) it is okay to use force unilaterally and in the face of opposition by international organizations such as the UN; and (5) it is okay to use force against any state that is trying to acquire nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

It was a vague and dumb question that can't be answered with asking a question like, "Could you tell me what you mean by the 'Bush Doctrine?'" To me, it sounds like a question that is clearly designed to make Palin look dumb because there isn't a real answer to it.[/quote]

I think you're wasting your time. saden doesn't care.

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Come on, she didn't even have a clue until he threw her a bone. If you don't expect the VP to know what it is then you're cheating yourself. S h e d i d h a v e t h e t a l k i n g p o i n t s d o w n t h o u g h.

Now this is a man that knows his Doctrines:

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[quote=SmootSmack;475189]I think you're wasting your time. saden doesn't care.[/quote]

Just because I disagree doesn't mean I don't care. I care about your well-being. How is the fiance buddy? Did you guys get married? Did you manage to find the right band?

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;473934]No, it's not about my opinion. I want peace worldwide, and I don't really have a problem paying for it, if I thought we could achieve it.

Understand that I'm not saying we couldn't achieve peace in Iraq -- I just don't think it is why we are there. In fact, I believe everything our government does (and most/all others) is rooted in self-interest.[/quote]Alright, care to fathom a guess at what the self-interest is?

I'm just not really seeing it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;474168]To that end, a part of me strongly leans toward voting for Obama hoping that a significant setback for the GOP will better them down the line.[/quote]This is the exact 100% true reason that I can't just vote for McCain and be done with it. I'm undecided because I feel it would be in the best interest of the long-term success of the Republican Party to lose this election.

But Barack Obama is certainly not the man to lead the U.S. to greener pastures. And, come election day, I'm [I]probably[/I] going to favor the short term success of the U.S. over the long term success of a single party.

I guess if "Country First" has any practical meaning, that's it. But I'm still not happy about it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;474238]I'd like to believe that McCain sees this as his last chance (which of course it is) and that he is doing to whatever it takes to win and get in the White House. And once he gets there he will be the McCain he claims he is, not the one he's seemingly forced to be to get voted.[/quote]I 100% believe this, but this also might apply to Obama to an extent.

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[quote=saden1;474286]He's starting off with a lie and not being himself so he can get elected? How is anyone suppose derive comfort from that? That's Country First?[/quote]That's politics!

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[quote=GTripp0012;475199]Alright, care to fathom a guess at what the self-interest is?

I'm just not really seeing it.[/quote]

Well, National Security is the reason most politicians would give. I don't buy it though.

Really, I don't have many worthy ideas -- most just seem too conspiratorial (i.e.: defense contracts, etc.). So, it's hard for me to see to, but I think self-interest is the most likely motive.

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[quote=Mattyk72;474358]The term "Elected" should be used loosely, at least in 2000.[/quote]Complaining about the results of the 2000 election has to be the politics equivlent of lambasting the officials for correctly ruling a poorly worded rule in football. It's so insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but people just harp on it incessantly.

And this is coming from someone who thinks Gore-Lieberman was the strongest ticket for the Democrats in the last 30 years.

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[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;475205]Well, National Security is the reason most politicians would give. I don't buy it though.

Really, I don't have many worthy ideas -- most just seem too conspiratorial (i.e.: defense contracts, etc.). So, it's hard for me to see to, but I think self-interest is the most likely motive.[/quote]Yeah, but...

That's why I don't see it. The reasons that would support your theory are far-fetched. Possible for sure, given the rarity of info surrounding the decisions we made, but too far-fetched for my blood.

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This stuff just writes itself:

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Let me first say that I am an Obama supporter and I disagree with many of Palin's socio-political views. However, I must say I am somewhat troubled by the nature and volume of attacks on her lately. She got flak for having a young baby and running for VP when no new father would ever be questioned for running for VP. She has gotten tremendous flak for her lack of experience when she has as much experience as a Governor as Edwards did as a Senator when he ran in 2004. She is ridiculed for her lack of foreign policy experience when Obama's foreign policy experience is equally scant. I feel like a feminist right now, but I can't help but wonder if she is drawing more than her fair share of criticism because of her gender and not because of her politics.

Saden, this is in no way directed at you. I'm responding to the flood of stories I've been reading on cnn.com, politico.com, etc. and the nature of the television press coverage. Dems are acting like the press is fawning all over her while I feel quite the opposite. She's getting a TON of coverage and is being called the GOP's new rock star, but she's getting hit with a lot of criticism that isn't being leveled at her male counterparts.

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[quote=GTripp0012;475207]Complaining about the results of the 2000 election has to be the politics equivlent of lambasting the officials for correctly ruling a poorly worded rule in football. It's so insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but people just harp on it incessantly.

And this is coming from someone who thinks Gore-Lieberman was the strongest ticket for the Democrats in the last 30 years.[/quote]

Sorry but the corruption of that election is still sickening and I don't think it should be forgotten anytime soon.

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[quote=Mattyk72;475226]Sorry but the corruption of that election is still sickening and I don't think it should be forgotten anytime soon.[/quote]

I think that Gore had plenty of other opportunities before Florida to win, but he ran an awful campaign (like Rudy G. this year) costing him a few easy states here and there.

Also, the Democrats were so gung-ho that they were ripped off and would easily win in 2004, but that was far from what happened.

In fact, I believe that a major reason for them losing in 2004 was that they seemed to run on a "we wuz robbed" platform and it turned plenty of people off.

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[quote=SmootSmack;475227][B]I think that Gore had plenty of other opportunities before Florida to win, but he ran an awful campaign (like Rudy G. this year) costing him a few easy states here and there.[/B]

Also, the Democrats were so gung-ho that they were ripped off and would easily win in 2004, but that was far from what happened.

In fact, I believe that a major reason for them losing in 2004 was that they seemed to run on a "we wuz robbed" platform and it turned plenty of people off.[/quote]

I know, it still doesn't excuse some of the super shady BS that went on.

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[quote=saden1;475162]Back on topic...Sarah "The Robot" Palin did her first national interview today...she done did good if cluelessness is the objective.

CAUTION: THIS VIDEO IS PAINFUL TO WATCH. VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED.
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And this is who could be a heart attack away from being the commander in chief. :doh:

(Just to note the above comment is not based on this video alone, just a general comment)

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[quote=Mattyk72;475234]And this is who could be a heart attack away from being the commander in chief. :doh:

(Just to note the above comment is not based on this video alone, just a general comment)[/quote]

Wow! She almost sounds like Karen, who is Plankton's wife from Spongebob SquarePants.

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Plankton is hilarious, he should be McCain's VP, he's already got experience working with the red button

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I laughed till I cried, and if he weren't a cartoon character I would concur.

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Some funny stuff...best believe Chuck Norris is handicapped..."i've done two tours over there"...."you're so liberal!!!"

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p.s. Is it me or is he itching to drop kick her?

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Did she just say "Ops, I lied?"

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I would feel much more comfortable with Obama if he had undergone the sort of scrutiny that Palin has.

Instead, he gets a pass. No gotcha interviews for him. No William Ayres or Saul Alinsky questions.

And Charlie Gibson was masterful in his use of the half-glasses. It was Schumeresque.

The Liberals and the press may strike this women down for now, but she will become more powerful than they could ever imagine. The difference between Conservatives and Liberals is that Conservatives understand that November is just the beginning. We will never allow all that we have built to be undone by Obama and his radical allies. Long after the Leftists have gone back to watching HBO and trying to determinewhat their next piercing should be, we will be there standing up for the truth. In the meantime it's fun to watch them sweat out an election they thought they had sewn up, and destroy a decent woman in the processs if that's what it takes. Shame on the Left and their friends in the media.

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Apparently you didn't watch the ABC debate with King Charlie Gibson.

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This is Bullshit Free Zone. If you're going to bring it take it strong!

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[quote=70Chip;475592]The Liberals and the press may strike this women down for now, but she will become more powerful than they could ever imagine. quote]

That woman is the devil. You better believe she will become powerful.

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[quote=70Chip;475592]I would feel much more comfortable with Obama if he had undergone the sort of scrutiny that Palin has.

Instead, he gets a pass. No gotcha interviews for him. No William Ayres or Saul Alinsky questions.

And Charlie Gibson was masterful in his use of the half-glasses. It was Schumeresque.

The Liberals and the press may strike this women down for now, but she will become more powerful than they could ever imagine. The difference between Conservatives and Liberals is that Conservatives understand that November is just the beginning. We will never allow all that we have built to be undone by Obama and his radical allies. Long after the Leftists have gone back to watching HBO and trying to determinewhat their next piercing should be, we will be there standing up for the truth. In the meantime it's fun to watch them sweat out an election they thought they had sewn up, and destroy a decent woman in the processs if that's what it takes. Shame on the Left and their friends in the media.[/quote]

Yawn.

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[quote=70Chip;475592]I would feel much more comfortable with Obama if he had undergone the sort of scrutiny that Palin has.

Instead, he gets a pass. No gotcha interviews for him. No William Ayres or Saul Alinsky questions.

And Charlie Gibson was masterful in his use of the half-glasses. It was Schumeresque.

The Liberals and the press may strike this women down for now, but she will become more powerful than they could ever imagine. The difference between Conservatives and Liberals is that Conservatives understand that November is just the beginning. [B]We will never allow all that we have built to be undone by Obama and his radical allies. [/B]Long after the Leftists have gone back to watching HBO and trying to determinewhat their next piercing should be, we will be there standing up for the truth. In the meantime it's fun to watch them sweat out an election they thought they had sewn up, and destroy a decent woman in the processs if that's what it takes. Shame on the Left and their friends in the media.[/quote]
explain to me exactly what you have built up?

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[quote=dmek25;475614]explain to me exactly what you have built up?[/quote]

Oh come on! You know damn well we have built something!

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An 8 year empire of shit. Who wouldn't want to keep that going?

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[quote=saden1;475599]Apparently you didn't watch the ABC debate with King Charlie Gibson.[/quote]

Wow! That was appallingly terrible. I can't believe I missed watching that. I may have to find it after the game and watch it unedited. Obama did a great job not making a point or defending himself. He stammers very well though.

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Carly Fiorina dropping knowledge on your candy ass:

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[quote=70Chip;475592]I would feel much more comfortable with Obama if he had undergone the sort of scrutiny that Palin has.

Instead, he gets a pass. No gotcha interviews for him. No William Ayres or Saul Alinsky questions.

And Charlie Gibson was masterful in his use of the half-glasses. It was Schumeresque.

The Liberals and the press may strike this women down for now, but she will become more powerful than they could ever imagine. The difference between Conservatives and Liberals is that Conservatives understand that November is just the beginning. We will never allow all that we have built to be undone by Obama and his radical allies. Long after the Leftists have gone back to watching HBO and trying to determinewhat their next piercing should be, we will be there standing up for the truth. In the meantime it's fun to watch them sweat out an election they thought they had sewn up, and destroy a decent woman in the processs if that's what it takes. Shame on the Left and their friends in the media.[/quote]

Obama went on the O'Reilly factor for an interview in which he was harangued and interrupted. Did you miss this? And you sound like you are talking about Obi Wan Kinobe by the way.

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[quote=Mattyk72;475226]Sorry but the corruption of that election is still sickening and I don't think it should be forgotten anytime soon.[/quote]
I agree and those counting of votes by hanging chads was just one way Gore looked to win and trying to discount the military over seas votes. Yes we will not forget. I'll say it now. If Obama wins its a valid election but if McCain wins we will here about all these issues and the stealing of the election. We just witnessed this in the last election but after the Dems took control of congress all of it faded away over night.

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[quote=GTripp0012;475208]Yeah, but...

That's why I don't see it. The reasons that would support your theory are far-fetched. Possible for sure, given the rarity of info surrounding the decisions we made, but too far-fetched for my blood.[/quote]

We're applying the same logic.

I think it is more far-fetched (and less likely) to assume we are there in the interest of Iraq, rather than in our own interest.

Anyways, back to the thread at hand...

PALIN SUX, OBAMA RULEZ!!

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[quote=Mattyk72;475234]And this is who could be a heart attack away from being the commander in chief. :doh:

(Just to note the above comment is not based on this video alone, just a general comment)[/quote]

Well if thats the best people can do to discredit her by peicing clips of an interview together then they did a poor job.

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first, what is your opinion of Gov. Palin?

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Your surrogates aren't suppose to [URL="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Fiorina_Palin_doesnt_have_the_experience_to_run_HP.html?showall"]stab you in the neck are they[/URL]? Listening to the clip makes you wonder if Carly Fiorina should be fired once again.

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What a difference one day makes eh? This guys is not really bright is he? Or maybe he lacks foresight? Or maybe he just discovered compassion? Or maybe he tossed principles overboard?

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