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over the mountain 09-20-2009 04:21 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
after a 3 field goal performance from the skins i look forward to gtripps offensive review in which he highlights that the skins avg. 4.2 yds a play on 2nd downs which ranks us in the top 3 in the league this week . . . . . . lol i love me some gtripp analysis im being sarcastic. hes the only guy i know that can make me feel good after a win

go skins!!!

12thMan 09-20-2009 04:22 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
The text messages on Comcast are just brutal.

Bench Portis.
The Caps score more points.
Who would win Skins v Terps
Start Collins.
Playing calling is horrible.
no o again
where are the tds

SBXVII 09-20-2009 04:22 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
I just don't see the Skins being a contender. I'm sorry. Yet another game of not putting up points. Especially against a team were we had the 10 point spread. Not getting to 20 or more points.

This week the Eagles got 20, Carolina who got beat by Dallas last week put up another 20 points, NO who we play later put up 40 against the Eagles.

We are just another mediocre team again as I see it.

over the mountain 09-20-2009 04:23 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
we looked good, alot better than 9 pts. just like last week we looked worse than the 23-17 score indicated. this week we looked alot better than the 9-7 score indicates.

go skins!!

53Fan 09-20-2009 04:24 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
Saints-48 Eagles-22 7 seconds left.

DynamiteRave 09-20-2009 04:24 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=SBXVII;591989]I just don't see the Skins being a contender. I'm sorry. Yet another game of not putting up points. Especially against a team were we had the 10 point spread. Not getting to 20 or more points.

This week the Eagles got 20, Carolina who got beat by Dallas last week put up another 20 points, NO who we play later put up 40 against the Eagles.

We are just another mediocre team again as I see it.[/quote]

At this point, I don't see us having any 20+ point games this season.

44Deezel 09-20-2009 04:24 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=12thMan;591988]The text messages on Comcast are just brutal.

Bench Portis.
The Caps score more points.
Who would win Skins v Terps
Start Collins.
Playing calling is horrible.
no o again
where are the tds[/quote]

The Caps score more points is hilarious and sadly, almost true;)

GusFrerotte 09-20-2009 04:25 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;591981]You're forgetting we face the Lions next week[/quote]

I know, I am going to be there. The Lions hung in there with the Vikes til the 3rd quarter with a rook QB. Guess what? They scored more points against one of the better Ds in the league than we scored 3 FGs against probably the worst.

SBXVII 09-20-2009 04:26 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=over the mountain;591987]after a 3 field goal performance from the skins i look forward to gtripps offensive review in which he highlights that the skins avg. 4.2 yds a play on 2nd downs which ranks us in the top 3 in the league this week . . . . . . lol i love me some gtripp analysis im being sarcastic. hes the only guy i know that can make me feel good after a win

go skins!!![/quote]

Its nice to see we have people who can remain positive always looking at what we did right.

This was another game that I was severly dissapointed. Expectations were for us to blow out the game. Expectations were for us to put up like 30 points or close to it. I'll agree if we scored on each time we went to the red zone we would be close to the 30 points but again the Skins found a way to blow it. Found a way to win with the least amount of points.

Ya kow what I think thats it. They are trying to win with the least amount of points. Hell they could get a safety and stop the other team all day. ;) Win by 2 points. :)

Ruhskins 09-20-2009 04:27 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=44Deezel;591980]Look at all the other scores from across the league. Points everywhere. Skins will probably be ranked last in Offense after this week.[/quote]

The Pats only put up 9 pts too...I know they need points, my biggest issue is individual mistakes and playcalling...don't hate for the sake of hating.

44Deezel 09-20-2009 04:27 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;591994]I know, I am going to be there. The Lions hung in there with the Vikes til the 3rd quarter with a rook QB. Guess what? They scored more points against one of the better Ds in the league than we scored 3 FGs against probably the worst.[/quote]

And we were playing at home. Imagine that performance in St. Louis. That fumble in the Rams red zone was huge.

44Deezel 09-20-2009 04:30 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;592000]The Pats only put up 9 pts too...I know they need points, my biggest issue is individual mistakes and playcalling...don't hate for the sake of hating.[/quote]

Piss off. Do you think the Pats would score 9 points against the Rams playing at home?

SBXVII 09-20-2009 04:33 PM

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It's majorly apparent that the team has trouble scoring, especially from with in 10 yrds. I presume it's cause the field is smaller, so why not take a delay of game penalty back up 5 yrds and give your WR's and TE more space to work with?

JC also needs to learn how to finess the ball into his players hands. Everything he does with the ball is with brute force. When your lined up inside the 5 yrd line you don't blast a ball at your catchers.

GusFrerotte 09-20-2009 04:35 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=SBXVII;591989]I just don't see the Skins being a contender. I'm sorry. Yet another game of not putting up points. Especially against a team were we had the 10 point spread. Not getting to 20 or more points.

This week the Eagles got 20, Carolina who got beat by Dallas last week put up another 20 points, NO who we play later put up 40 against the Eagles.

We are just another mediocre team again as I see it.[/quote]

Unfortunately after game #2 I have to say it is looking like a replay of last season with the lack of offensive production. Again it is mindboggling with the talent we possess on offense that we can only manage 9 points against a crap team. I am confident we can handle the Lions, just on the Stafford rookie effect alone, but it is going to be a good game nonetheless.

Miller101 09-20-2009 04:35 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=skinsnut;591971]Ya know...this may be the best thing that could have happened...get the win against the Rams but scare the crap out of the team to let them know they must make some serious changes to compete against above average teams.
I hope Zorn considers handing off play calling[/quote]

I agree! Zorn's play calling is just terrible. He needs to find someone else to call them and do it quickly.

SBXVII 09-20-2009 04:36 PM

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[quote=GusFrerotte;592010]Unfortunately after game #2 I have to say it is looking like a replay of last season with the lack of offensive production. Again it is mindboggling with the talent we possess on offense that we can only manage 9 points against a crap team. I am confident we can handle the Lions, just on the Stafford rookie effect alone, but it is going to be a good game nonetheless.[/quote]


I don't doubt the defense will make it extremely difficult for Detroit but I honestly see them putting up 20+ points and us not. Especially at this point.

GusFrerotte 09-20-2009 04:36 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;592000]The Pats only put up 9 pts too...I know they need points, my biggest issue is individual mistakes and playcalling...don't hate for the sake of hating.[/quote]


True, but then again the Jets are a team on the rise, while the Rams are on the decline/rebuilding mode track.

GusFrerotte 09-20-2009 04:40 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=SBXVII;592012]I don't doubt the defense will make it extremely difficult for Detroit but I honestly see them putting up 20+ points and us not. Especially at this point.[/quote]


The Lions have the potential to do that, but Stafford forces the ball like a typical rook trying to make something happen. Our LBs are solid and can shut down Kevin Smith. My only worry is Calvin Johnson smokes Rogers and Stafford hits him for some big ones. Lions D is not the best but they get the job done if their offense gives them some help with scoring or at least some long drives.

DynamiteRave 09-20-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
By the way, since I know a lot of people are in this thread and not the offensive line depth thread, Redskins report says Randy Thomas is out for the season with the tricep injury.

htownskinfan 09-20-2009 04:41 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=skinsfan69;591913]what got me about zorn was the trick play call on 3 and goal from the 10. right there snyder should've came down on the sideline and fired him. then the 4th down call at the end of the game. all the screen passes. he simply has to go. enough of this already.[/quote]

i agree,and i dont see how anybody on here is ok with the call to go for it on 4th down,that just blows my mind.They only needed a fg to win the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you kick the fg and make them score a td to beat you with no timeouts.
Also when Zorn called the last timeout did you see all the confusion with his asst screaming NOOOO!! dont call it yet u fking dumbass!! let the clock run down then call it.
I think JC had a good game,but since hes been the qb weve had problems scoring.We march up and down the field and continuosly fold in the red zone.Its been our MO for a while now.If thats not Jasons fault{and im not saying it is}WHOSE FAULT IS IT?

SBXVII 09-20-2009 04:42 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;592013]True, but then again the Jets are a team on the rise, while the Rams are on the decline/rebuilding mode track.[/quote]


Well a rebuilding mode team hung toe to toe with us. As for the Jets, I do believe they started new this yr no different then Atlanta did last yr. Maybe we should be thinking Rebuild mode cause we played like a team that is. I also don't know how you say the Jets are a team on the rise? They hired a new HC cause they didn't like what they had.

I truly hope this team can turn this around and make me look stupid cause I think we all want the Skins to do great things but if the season is no different then last I'll keep saying they should look into rebuilding the team. If they could get rid of all the old dead weight on the team do it. Get younger,faster, and healthier across the board.

SBXVII 09-20-2009 04:52 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=htownskinfan;592020]i agree,and i dont see how anybody on here is ok with the call to go for it on 4th down,that just blows my mind.They only needed a fg to win the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you kick the fg and make them score a td to beat you with no timeouts.
Also when Zorn called the last timeout did you see all the confusion with his asst screaming NOOOO!! dont call it yet u fking dumbass!! let the clock run down then call it.
[B]I think JC had a good game,but since hes been the qb weve had problems scoring.We march up and down the field and continuosly fold in the red zone.Its been our MO for a while now.If thats not Jasons fault{and im not saying it is}WHOSE FAULT IS IT?[/quote][/B]

This is my question? Where does the fault lie? I mean, I'm guessing Zorn sends in the play he wants run, JC looks over the defense, is JC changing the play? or is he running the play sent in. If he's running the play sent in then Zorn's gotta go, if it's JC changing the play then I am on the record saying I think Collins might be better at this point.

I still think some of the issue is JC throwing the ball to hard for his recievers sometimes. Especially when he needs to just finess it to them. At this point I almost would like to see game film on this day cause the tv cameras don't follow the WR's down field so you can't tell if anyone was open on any play JC dumped off to someone else.

I hope, I hope, I hope they get the scoring issue resolved, but at this point you have to wonder what has to change to fix the problem. What ever they are doing now is not working. Especially with all the weapons we have.

GusFrerotte 09-20-2009 04:53 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=SBXVII;592021]Well a rebuilding mode team hung toe to toe with us. As for the Jets, I do believe they started new this yr no different then Atlanta did last yr. Maybe we should be thinking Rebuild mode cause we played like a team that is. I also don't know how you say the Jets are a team on the rise? They hired a new HC cause they didn't like what they had.

I truly hope this team can turn this around and make me look stupid cause I think we all want the Skins to do great things but if the season is no different then last I'll keep saying they should look into rebuilding the team. If they could get rid of all the old dead weight on the team do it. Get younger,faster, and healthier across the board.[/quote]


Our problem is what has been already touched upon in numerous posts on numerous threads, and that is we do not have the personnel for the running of a WCO offense. Some newbie in the preseason started that thread on Zorn needing to get "his" QB for his system. Most folks nailed him wrongfully for coming off as being a JC hater. I think the guy had a legit point though. Moss and ARE were acquired for the Gibbs offense as was Lloyd. Rod Gardner was a Spurrier guy. JC was drafted for the Gibbs offense as well. Basically it is like trying to fit square blocks into round holes. That is one of the main reasons our Wr corp sucks so bad now.

44Deezel 09-20-2009 04:56 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;592027]Our problem is what has been already touched upon in numerous posts on numerous threads, and that is we do not have the personnel for the running of a WCO offense. Some newbie in the preseason started that thread on Zorn needing to get "his" QB for his system. Most folks nailed him wrongfully for coming off as being a JC hater. I think the guy had a legit point though. Moss and ARE were acquired for the Gibbs offense as was Lloyd. Rod Gardner was a Spurrier guy. JC was drafted for the Gibbs offense as well. Basically it is like trying to fit square blocks into round holes. That is one of the main reasons our Wr corp sucks so bad now.[/quote]

Might not be that complicated. Maybe Zorn just can't coach.

GusFrerotte 09-20-2009 04:56 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
Snyder needs to get his ass out of the toilet and stick with a HC and let the HC work woth the GM and the scouting staff to assemble guys that will best fit his system or at least adapt to it, although you would think any WR could be adaptable to any system. It just baffles me that we can't get any real production out of our Wr corp on a steady basis. I was hoping ARE was going to bust out after last weekend. I was wrong.

GusFrerotte 09-20-2009 05:00 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=44Deezel;592031]Might not be that complicated. Maybe Zorn just can't coach.[/quote]


True, his playcalling and time management are also baffling, but our execution has a lot to be desired as well, especailly from the WRs. Moss and ARE need to be let go and not resigned. But yeah, Zorn looks to be in over his head.

GusFrerotte 09-20-2009 05:01 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;592019]By the way, since I know a lot of people are in this thread and not the offensive line depth thread, Redskins report says Randy Thomas is out for the season with the tricep injury.[/quote]


It is already starting and it is only game #2. Half our line will be gone by week #7 probably, and we will have scrubs in.

over the mountain 09-20-2009 05:04 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;592019]By the way, since I know a lot of people are in this thread and not the offensive line depth thread, Redskins report says Randy Thomas is out for the season with the tricep injury.[/quote]
i really hope this inst true. randy is so underrated with what he does. that might his career if true . . . . .oh man

i had to delete my cursin rant

Slingin Sammy 33 09-20-2009 05:05 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=htownskinfan;592020]i agree,and i dont see how anybody on here is ok with the call to go for it on 4th down,that just blows my mind.They only needed a fg to win the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you kick the fg and make them score a td to beat you with no timeouts.
[/quote]I'm fine with the decision to go for it on 4th & 1 at the GL. The playcall was shit, but the decision was fine. Let's say we kick the FG, now the Rams run it back to the 35 or 40 yd line. They've still got about 1:20 or so, anything can happen from there, pass interference, blown coverage, etc.. It's much harder to drive from the -1 yd line to the +30 and then kick a FG, than go from the -35 to score a TD.

Oh yeah, and if you get the TD on 4th & goal the game is over.

over the mountain 09-20-2009 05:07 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=SBXVII;592025][/B]

This is my question? Where does the fault lie? I mean, I'm guessing Zorn sends in the play he wants run, JC looks over the defense, is JC changing the play? or is he running the play sent in. If he's running the play sent in then Zorn's gotta go, if it's JC changing the play then I am on the record saying I think Collins might be better at this point.

I still think some of the issue is JC throwing the ball to hard for his recievers sometimes. Especially when he needs to just finess it to them. At this point I almost would like to see game film on this day cause the tv cameras don't follow the WR's down field so you can't tell if anyone was open on any play JC dumped off to someone else.

I hope, I hope, I hope they get the scoring issue resolved, but at this point you have to wonder what has to change to fix the problem. What ever they are doing now is not working. Especially with all the weapons we have.[/quote]

i think JC doesnt look good if his first read is not open, it takes a perfect play call and him actually takin a chance for things to click. if his 1st read isnt open we all know what happens . . . . he checks down (which i guess technically is the right read but i wish he would take more chances)

12thMan 09-20-2009 05:12 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
I really hate to keep the udates going about B. Mitch, but he just ripped Robert Henson who tweeted a very negative statement about the fans. B. Mitch told Henson to shut up and get on the field before he starts talking crap about the fans booing. Then he tore into Zorn and the offense again. This is great.

over the mountain 09-20-2009 05:12 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=SBXVII;591996]Its nice to see we have people who can remain positive always looking at what we did right.

This was another game that I was severly dissapointed. Expectations were for us to blow out the game. Expectations were for us to put up like 30 points or close to it. I'll agree if we scored on each time we went to the red zone we would be close to the 30 points but again the Skins found a way to blow it. Found a way to win with the least amount of points.

Ya kow what I think thats it. They are trying to win with the least amount of points. Hell they could get a safety and stop the other team all day. ;) Win by 2 points. :)[/quote]

well, atleast we have a few more "preseason" games to figure things out. come week 7 the real season starts and hopefully we can get things clicking. the schedule is perfect for a team like us that relies on the D givin time for the O to figure things out. im actually excited after todays game. marc bulger is a top tier qb, been in the game while, hes a gamer. bring on matt stafford!!!

DynamiteRave 09-20-2009 05:14 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=12thMan;592046]I really hate to keep the udates going about B. Mitch, but he just ripped Robert Henson who tweeted a very negative statement about the fans. B. Mitch told Henson to shut up and get on the field before he starts talking crap about the fans booing. Then he tore into Zorn and the offense again. This is great.[/quote]

Henson deserved it. Obviously he's sitting at home for a reason. I'd rather be a "dim witted" fan, than a "can't cut it" practice team fodder, football player.

wilsowilso 09-20-2009 05:15 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=12thMan;592046]I really hate to keep the udates going about B. Mitch, but he just ripped Robert Henson who tweeted a very negative statement about the fans. B. Mitch told Henson to shut up and get on the field before he starts talking crap about the fans booing. Then he tore into Zorn and the offense again. This is great.[/quote]

Welcome to the NFL rookie bitch.

12thMan 09-20-2009 05:17 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;592051]Henson deserved it. Obviously he's sitting at home for a reason. I'd rather be a "dim witted" fan, than a "can't cut it" practice team fodder, football player.[/quote]

I can't believe that dumb ass would tweet that. It's obvious he has no sense of the rich tradition and pride around here. Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy with how we won, but this ain't Detroit or Cleveland.

MTK 09-20-2009 05:18 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=09AFTacoma;591957]Todd Collins would have called an Audible and scored!![/quote]

don't be a douche

53Fan 09-20-2009 05:18 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=over the mountain;592047]well, atleast we have a few more "preseason" games to figure things out. come week 7 the real season starts and hopefully we can get things clicking. the schedule is perfect for a team like us that relies on the D givin time for the O to figure things out. im actually excited after todays game. marc bulger is a top tier qb, been in the game while, hes a gamer. bring on matt stafford!!![/quote]

I actually agree with that Mountain. I think we're going to be alright and hit our stride as the season go's on.

over the mountain 09-20-2009 05:26 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
[quote=53Fan;592062]I actually agree with that Mountain. I think we're going to be alright and hit our stride as the season go's on.[/quote]

i know buddy! our top 4 ranked D looks better, kelly looked good today, our schedule gives zorn JC and co a few weeks to figure things out. couldnt really ask for a better scenario givin our O looks like last years.

over the mountain 09-20-2009 05:30 PM

Re: Rams vs. Redskins Gameday Thread
 
i would love to watch a skins game with 53, credskinsrule, gtripp, matty, smoot, firstdown, daseal, 12thman, sbXIII, trample, willslo, the dynamite, gmscud well hell im just gonna have to name all you bastards!!!

ps im drunk. my girl picked up a shift at a ravens bar, so free beer free food free shot were rockin our skins gear hookin up this huge inflateable ravens blow up player out front as were rokcin that burgundy n gold lol . . .they made her rtake off her skins visor during the ravens game. kinda weird havin a couple of skins fans wearing our gear wearin opening a ravens bar!! butthats how we roll!! skins deep!

insideman 09-20-2009 05:33 PM

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As thought it would be Zorn with another pathic press conference.


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