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The change of direction puts more stress on the knees, but still, if his knees can take the pounding of "flying" on the treadmill, and with a negative MRI, his excuses are running thin. He needs to pass this test and pass it soon.

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[quote=wilsowilso;717890]AH could very well blow this opportunity, but this is the best chance for him to fulfill his potential.

If that piece of shit ever dedicated himself he would win the Defensive MVP. No one has ever gotten his attention, because he is an elite player without even trying and he is an immature bitch.

[B]Imagine if Shanahan somehow gets through to him. Wow![/B]

Most likely this will end badly, but I love everything Shanahan is doing with this baby.[/quote]

I'm personally counting on this. I want to see a Redskins organization that is able to work with a problem player the way Belichick did with Randy Moss.

[quote=Mattyk;717932]The change of direction puts more stress on the knees, but still, if his knees can take the pounding of "flying" on the treadmill, and with a negative MRI, his excuses are running thin. He needs to pass this test and pass it soon.[/quote]

Agreed, he just needs to pass the damn test.

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Does anyone know if Haynesworth has been instructed off limits to the media? For a man that has been the subject of such wide spread media attention and controversy, one would think the media would surely have some questions to ask of him. Through it all, there has not been a word [to my knowledge] from him that would attempt to satisfy the curiosity of so many interested in anything he may have to say in regards to all that's going on around him.

I haven't heard him speak a word publically since the end of last season.

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[quote=Ruhskins;717824]I don't think Haynesworth is a financial burden for any team right now if he were to be traded. Honestly, what would be more of a barrier is the hype behind him not passing the fitness test. As I said, other than not passing the test, AH has said and done the right things, but I doubt that any team will be able to get by the general opinion of him.[/quote]

Not to THEM, but if he can take our $21 million and go play somewhere else...horrible deal for us.

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[quote=Longtimefan;717945]Does anyone know if Haynesworth has been instructed off limits to the media? For a man that has been the subject of such wide spread media attention and controversy, one would think the media would surely have some questions to ask of him. Through it all, there has not been a word [to my knowledge] from him that would attempt to satisfy the curiosity of so many interested in anything he may have to say in regards to all that's going on around him.

I haven't heard him speak a word publically since the end of last season.[/quote]

He's not allowed to speak to the media until he passes the test

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[quote=Mattyk;717954]He's not allowed to speak to the media until he passes the test[/quote]

Thanks Matty....Have you ever witnessed a situation like this before, where a player was instructed not to speak with the media? It just seem like such a rarity.

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Don't know. Haven't seen a situation quite like AH's in general.

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[quote=Mattyk;717954]He's not allowed to speak to the media until he passes the test[/quote]


Thank god, because some one out there who has an agenda against the Skins would take whatever he said all be it positive or nonconfrontational and turn it into a bigger story by taking the one context out of a comment and turn it into a negative story.

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It's actually Haslett who the Redskins have not allowed to speak to the media until Haynesworth practices. They're walking a fine line with the NFL media policy with that, but probably not too big a deal as long as it doesn't linger.

It's not uncommon for teams to strongly encourage players not to speak and that seems to be the case with Haynesworth, but I don't believe he's been told he can't. He just hasn't been.

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I have not commented on this AH situation, but Geez!.... if he can't pass this test, what kind of "football shape" is he in. He probably stood in front of the mirror every night all summer admiring his body, while he lifted weights and lost weight and thought "Man, I look good!" But he and his trainer failed to get his endurance level up to the level neccessary to be strong in the 4th Qtr of football games, which to me is what this "test" is all about. Don't give him any slack Shanny!

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He was talking to Hannah Storm yesterday, but it must have been off the record.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;717976]He was talking to Hannah Storm yesterday, but it must have been off the record.[/quote]

They were just chatting about a common friend

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[quote=SmootSmack;717972][B]It's actually Haslett who the Redskins have not allowed to speak to the media until Haynesworth practices. They're walking a fine line with the NFL media policy[/B] with that, but probably not too big a deal as long as it doesn't linger.

It's not uncommon for teams to strongly encourage players not to speak and that seems to be the case with Haynesworth, but I don't believe he's been told he can't. He just hasn't been.[/quote]

None of Parcells' guys that have become head coaches allow their assistants to speak with the media. What's the difference?

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[quote=Longtimefan;717958]Thanks Matty....Have you ever witnessed a situation like this before, where a player [B]was instructed not to speak with the media[/B]? It just seem like such a rarity.[/quote]


Sean Taylor...for one plus year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;717980]None of Parcells' guys that have become head coaches allow their assistants to speak with the media. What's the difference?[/quote]

The rules have changed in the past few months and now coordinators and other top level coaches must be available to the media on a reasonable basis during training camp, preseason and the regular season. Well they haven't so much changed as they have been a bit more clearly defined now.

But what Parcells and Schottenheimer used to do, and I think guys like Andy Reid currently do is they basically say "Why talk to so and so on my staff when I can just give you all the answers you need since I'm the head coach" It's part of their one voice controls all philosophy.

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From the most recent post on RI:

[I]And in a twist of irony, Haynesworth actually likes the new defense and Haslett's plans for him in the scheme. Haynesworth's concern about the unknown, in large part, prompted him to stay away from Ashburn for most of the offseason, resulting in the current situation.[/I]

Unreal. He likes the defense now. So if he hadn't stomped his feet and pouted like a child and just shown up for all the OTA's, he would have found out from the get-go that he'd like his new position on the line, he wouldn't have had to deal with this conditioning test mess, and there would be no drama.

This guy is the biggest mega-turd around. I can't ever remember dislking a Redskin player this much. And that's including Deion Sanders.

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[quote=GMScud;718000]From the most recent post on RI:

[I]And in a twist of irony, Haynesworth actually likes the new defense and Haslett's plans for him in the scheme. Haynesworth's concern about the unknown, in large part, prompted him to stay away from Ashburn for most of the offseason, resulting in the current situation.[/I]

Unreal. He likes the defense now. So if he hadn't stomped his feet and pouted like a child and just shown up for all the OTA's, he would have found out from the get-go that he'd like his new position on the line, he wouldn't have had to deal with this conditioning test mess, and there would be no drama.

This guy is the biggest mega-turd around. I can't ever remember dislking a Redskin player this much. And that's including Deion Sanders.[/quote]

RI is considerably late to the game here, Haslett and Haynesworth spoke a few times during the off-season and, while initially frustrated, Haynesworth said he now got it and was excited. And pumped for mini-camp. And then he didn't show up

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[quote=SmootSmack;718001]RI is considerably late to the game here, Haslett and Haynesworth spoke a few times during the off-season and, while initially frustrated, Haynesworth said he now got it and was excited. And pumped for mini-camp. And then he didn't show up

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I agree that Jason Reid isn't exactly Johnny Newsflash. RI is pretty weak actually. I understand that AH was excited based on his conversations with Haslett way back in the spring. It's just even more frustrating to read how he really likes the defense after simply showing up and seeing his role in person.

It's just such a fail when you think about how easily all this crap could have been avoided.

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I think at the end of the day, Haynesworth is frustrated because he came here thinking he would be The Man, since he was courted as such. And then Shanahan came in and basically said The Man here is me. The rest of you have to earn it. And Al's thinking "I already earned it. How do you think I got this contract?" But now he's got to earn it all over again.

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Albert Haynesworth keeps 'doing the same thing'

During Friday's morning practice at Redskins Park, Albert Haynesworth again wore a helmet and again was without pads. He participated in a turnover drill with his teammates, but otherwise, it was status quo.

After practice, Coach Mike Shanahan reiterated that nothing has changed.

"He's been doing the same thing. He's been getting a few reps and individual work -- the same thing he's been doing," Shanahan said.

Following a negative MRI result on Haynesworth's knee, Shanahan also said nothing's changed for the defensive tackle on the injury front.

"Same thing I said yesterday." Shanahan said. "He's getting treatment and hopefully he just keeps improving."

Rookie left tackle Trent Williams appeared to tweak a hip during practice and at one point was lying down on the sideline working with a trainer.

"He felt a little tight but it should not keep him from working," Shanahan said.

Shanahan said he's hopeful that wide receiver Malcolm Kelly and right tackle Jammal Brown will be back at full strength for practice on Monday.

"Keeping my fingers crossed that with good treatment and good rehab that they'll go on Monday," he said. "I'm not positive, though."

Shanahan also said that wide receiver Mike Furrey, who hasn't practiced since Tuesday morning, is still suffering from the effects of a concussion. The team is being careful with Furrey, who has sustained a concussion in the past. Nose tackle Howard Green also didn't practice.

Cornerback Carlos Rogers was held out of the morning session for rest. Over the course of the week, a few players were given some time off.

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[quote=SmootSmack;718009]I think at the end of the day, Haynesworth is frustrated because he came here thinking he would be The Man, since he was courted as such. And then Shanahan came in and basically said The Man here is me. The rest of you have to earn it. And Al's thinking "I already earned it. How do you think I got this contract?" But now he's got to earn it all over again.[/quote]

Do you think this knee issue is bs and this is just a continuing pissing contest between the two(Shanny)? With the MRI showing nothing (which Im glad about), but as this knee issue has dragged now for a week that this is just petty bullsh*t. Id really like this story to be over yesterday. Albert really looking more and more like a b*tch the further he refuses to take this test.

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I think his knee probably is hurting him. However, I think he's one of those athletes who struggles with the difference between playin hurt and being injured

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He's had swelling in the knee and he's been advised to rest it by the team doctors, so he's not BS'ing it. The MRI simply showed there's no structural damage, but that doesn't mean there can't be other issues such as fluid in the knee. The issue comes down to can he push through it.

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[quote=Mattyk;718030]He's had swelling in the knee and he's been advised to rest it by the team doctors, [B]so he's not BS'ing it[/B]. The MRI simply showed there's no structural damage, but that doesn't mean there can't be other issues such as fluid in the knee. The issue comes down to can he push through it.[/quote]

Not so sure what has you so convinced? But, for the most part when your hurt your hurt not "he was flying" on a treadmill. If you can flat out get it on a treadmill you can get through a few sprints, well at least most that cared about there job/team would. He doesn't fall in that category.

I'm not buying Fat al's BS!

An MRI exam Thursday of Haynesworth's sore knee [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/3-4-defense/shanahan-albert-haynesworth-to.html"]revealed no structural damage[/URL], and the feeling among many at Redskins Park is that the two-time all-pro should have already passed the test. Although perplexed team officials acknowledge Haynesworth probably is experiencing knee irritation, sources say, they do not believe his pain rises to a level that would prevent him from passing the test of two, timed 300-yard shuttle runs.


Moreover, Haynesworth has not even attempted the test since Monday, and his last strong effort occurred July 30. The nine-year veteran's decision to delay retesting is unsettling to the Redskins, [B]especially in light of the encouraging MRI exam and Thursday's performance on a treadmill in which "he was flying," one source said.[/B]

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He may be BS'ing how much pain he can or is willing to handle, but he's not BS'ing swelling in the knee.

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[quote=Mattyk;718052]He may be BS'ing how much pain he can or is willing to handle, but he's not BS'ing swelling in the knee.[/quote]

Well, if he's hauling ass on a treadmill, hitting the sled, and doing individual drills, IMO there's no excuse for the fact that he hasn't even attempted the test in a week.

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[quote=GMScud;718061]Well, if he's hauling ass on a treadmill, hitting the sled, and doing individual drills, IMO there's no excuse for the fact that he hasn't even attempted the test in a week.[/quote]

Totally agree.

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He hasn't attempted the test because he knows he can't pass it. Not now, or in a million years. He doesnt have it in him.

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I fully believe he's physically capable of doing it. Question is how much heart does the guy have?

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[quote=SolidSnake84;718071]He hasn't attempted the test because he knows he can't pass it. Not now, or in a million years. He doesnt have it in him.[/quote]

He did pass it in Tennessee. And he ran it fast enough on day one dang potty break.

At this point I think it is just a simple willpower match, and I don't see either guy backing down. If he isn't traded, he could very well be inactive against dallas if he hasn't conceded by then.

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I think that if Golic can pass it with time to spare, Albert should be able to do it. He is SUPPOSED to be an elite Defensive lineman.

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I'm back to calling him Feignsworth. Bum knee or not, I'm starting to think the swelling is minor and shouldn't hold him back for long. He's got 2 more days on my clock.

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[quote=SmootSmack;718009]I think at the end of the day, Haynesworth is frustrated because he came here thinking he would be The Man, since he was courted as such. And then Shanahan came in and basically said The Man here is me. The rest of you have to earn it. And Al's thinking "I already earned it. How do you think I got this contract?" But now he's got to earn it all over again.[/quote]

Your logic is sound SS. Haynesworth was hired as a waiter, he worked for a year and the restaurant was sold. When new management took over he was informed that he no longer would be employed as a waiter but dishwasher instead. That's when the rubber meets the road.

Maybe if Cerrato had not promised Haynesworth that he would be the man, [forgot to tell Greg Blache] maybe he would not have signed here at all. He did have other opions.

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[quote=Longtimefan;718106]Your logic is sound SS. Haynesworth was hired as a waiter, he worked for a year and the restaurant was sold. When new management took over he was informed that he no longer would be employed as a waiter but dishwasher instead. That's when the rubber meets the road.

Maybe if Cerrato had not promised Haynesworth that he would be the man, [forgot to tell Greg Blache] maybe he would not have signed here at all. He did have other opions.[/quote]


Except for those measly millions he took before he became dishwasher... Maybe he did have other options, but he took this one, and he took the money.

There are no excuses or explanations for AH's behavior that hold water. Stop the nonsense and support the coach. We've seen the alternative and are sick of it.

Can't have it both ways guys.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;718090]I'm back to calling him Feignsworth. Bum knee or not, I'm starting to think the swelling is minor and shouldn't hold him back for long. He's got 2 more days on my clock.[/quote]

Fatal Bert FTW?!!?!!?!? Lol

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;718127]Except for those measly millions he took before he became dishwasher... Maybe he did have other options, but he took this one, and he took the money.

There are no excuses or explanations for AH's behavior that hold water. Stop the nonsense and support the coach. We've seen the alternative and are sick of it.

Can't have it both ways guys.[/quote]

Dosen't have to be nonsense because everyone don't share in your views. I expressed my opinion like you, it's mine and I'm stiicking to it.

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Only persons opinion besides Daniels on the defensive side of the ball that matters more is London's. I'm glad to see that the team is taking things in stride. Maybe it's hoping for a little to much, but I'd love to see Shanahan break the pattern of grudges, especially if Albert gets with the program and plays like he's capable of playing.

Daniels thinks Haynesworth regrets offseason
By: John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer
08/06/10 5:02 PM EDT
Redskins defensive end Phillip Daniels has an idea of what Albert Haynesworth might have done differently in the offseason: show up to Redskins Park. Haynesworth, of course, did not and therefore had to pass the conditioning test. And that led to the sore knee, which has led to other issues.

“I think he regrets it,” said Daniels, who speaks often with Haynesworth. “Albert is a prideful man. I know it bothers him, with everyone making fun of him. He does laugh about it sometimes. It’s funny sometimes – [Mike] Golic’s run was funny [on ESPN]. But you can tell he’s in some kind of shape, especially compared to last year. It bothers him a little, but he’s not letting it get to him. He knows what kind of player he is.”

Daniels was among those who spoke out about Haynesworth’s absence in the spring. But, Daniels said, he told Haynesworth what he told the media: when you’re 4-12, you don’t negotiate, you just show up.
But now the real issue is getting Haynesworth healthy enough to pass the test.
“He’s always had the knee or an ailing problem,” Daniels said. “He had some things last year. I had the pleasure of riding with his mom to the hotel yesterday and she said he always had problems with his knee. I really feel like it bothers him, but at the same time I think once he passes the test and gets on the field to play, he can erase all the things said about him that were negative….We need him on the field.”

Not that every player is worried about the situation. As one offensive player said, “I don’t give a [expletive]. I’m just worried about my job.”


Read more at the Washington Examiner: [url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Daniels-thinks-Haynesworth-regrets-offseason-100149459.html#ixzz0vsHbBthm]Daniels thinks Haynesworth regrets offseason | Washington Examiner[/url]

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[quote=Longtimefan;718148]Dosen't have to be nonsense because everyone don't share in your views. I expressed my opinion like you, it's mine and I'm stiicking to it.[/quote]

Blaming Vinnie Cerrato is weak.

The evidence is clear, AH took the money and, at least so far, has weaseled out of performing on the contract he signed.

In my opinion, your waiter/dishwasher/Cerrato/Blache scenario is nonsense. And yes, you are entitled to your opinion and you can stick to it.

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Yep same thing on PFT, Fat boy tries again! Stop the BS fat al and do your job!

Albert Haynesworth to retake conditioning test Saturday
Posted by Evan Silva on August 6, 2010 9:15 PM ET
[B]ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that the "plan is" for Redskins defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth to retake his conditioning test on Saturday[/B]. Schefter has few other details, and it's unclear which side he's getting his information from: the team or Haynesworth.

If it's the Redskins leaking information to Schefter, and Haynesworth hasn't deemed his troublesome knee healthy enough yet to complete the test, it could be another power play by Mike Shanahan. Schefter, of course, wrote a book on Shanahan in 1997. So it's certainly not a poor bet that Schefter's report is coming from someone close to the coach, if not the coach himself.

On the other hand, Haynesworth and/or his agents could be using Schefter to get out the news that the $100 million nose tackle $48.2 million right defensive end's knee has healed sufficiently, and Haynesworth is ready to practice. Haynesworth was observed "flying on a treadmill" Thursday.

Or perhaps Haynesworth is just getting bored. The extent of his participation in Friday's practice? Recovering fumbles in a turnover drill.