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Mechanix544 09-16-2010 01:26 PM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
wow, that is hilarious.

they are so cool. I want to be their friends.

SBXVII 09-16-2010 01:46 PM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
Maybe Portis can return the favour after a game one day. :)

GusFrerotte 09-16-2010 06:06 PM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=skinsfan_nn;734288]No comment!


Clinton Portis declines to comment, with help from Albert Haynesworth

Clinton Portis and Albert Haynesworth performed a scripted skit for reporters in the locker room Thursday afternoon in which Portis declined to answer questions and Haynesworth covered the running back's mouth with strips of black athletic tape.

A Redskins media relations official informed reporters that Portis, who, in a prepared statement, apologized for inappropriate comments he made about female reporters earlier this week, was ready for his scheduled weekly media availability.

When reporters approached Portis at his dressing stall, however, he initially did not speak. When a reporter asked Portis about his ill-advised comments during the radio interview, he held up a spiral notebook with "No Comment" written on one of the pages while Haynesworth, standing to Portis's left, tore a piece of tape and applied it to Portis's lips.

When a reporter asked about Sunday's game against the Houston Texans, Portis turned the page and held up the notebook again: "Thanks For Coming." Haynesworth applied another piece of black tape.

As reporters continued in vain to engage Portis, up went the notebook twice more with: "God Bless You" and "Have A Good Day." Haynesworth did his part with more tape, and then the players left the locker room together.

Redskins officials probably would prefer that Portis's lips remained perpetually sealed. He occasionally has inserted his foot into his mouth during interviews -- though not to the extent of his misstep this week -- or has stirred controversy by ripping former head coach Jim Zorn and quarterback Jason Campbell.

But this was Portis's first opportunity to explain himself after making comments that, at the very least, displayed some insensitivity on the subject of female reporters. It does raise questions about how sincere Portis's apology was. Perhaps the Portis-Haynesworth two-man act should go on the road. It didn't play well in Ashburn.[/quote]

What was there to explain? Clinton just stated his views, which to me, made sense. You don't have male reporters in a WNBA or any other female locker room so you don't have any sexual incidents or people feeling awkward about having total strangers of the opposite sex checking you out, etc. The way that gal usually dressed from all those picks tells me she wanted to provoke a reaction or get some attention. What Portis said is true. You are telling me a young woman, obviously trying to get a guy worked up with provocative clothing, isn't checking them out while they are in the buff or semi in the buff? Do you think all men will have no problem having a strange woman walking around with them in the nude? THe whole things smacks of typical PC double standard stuff. Guys are pigs and girls are frigging angels. This is 2010, not 1950.

SirClintonPortis 09-16-2010 06:06 PM

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[quote=Lotus;734253]Last year Rak had his best sack day against Oakland, when AH did not play.[/quote]

JaMarcus Russell had super glue on his hands that day. He just wouldn't even try to release the ball. His pocket presence was about some of the worst I've seen. The only other guy who I saw display similarly awful pocket presence was David Carr.

Pocket$ $traight 09-16-2010 06:08 PM

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[quote=GusFrerotte;734400]What was there to explain? Clinton just stated his views, which to me, made sense. You don't have male reporters in a WNBA or any other female locker room so you don't have any sexual incidents or people feeling awkward about having total strangers of the opposite sex checking you out, etc. The way that gal usually dressed from all those picks tells me she wanted to provoke a reaction or get some attention. What Portis said is true. You are telling me a young woman, obviously trying to get a guy worked up with provocative clothing, isn't checking them out while they are in the buff or semi in the buff? Do you think all men will have no problem having a strange woman walking around with them in the nude? THe whole things smacks of typical PC double standard stuff. Guys are pigs and girls are frigging angels. This is 2010, not 1950.[/quote]


If I had a locker room assignment with 53 naked women walking around, I would have to wear sunglasses.

SirClintonPortis 09-16-2010 06:11 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;734403]If I had a locker room assignment with 53 naked women walking around, I would have to wear sunglasses.[/quote]

You can see through sunglasses.

Pocket$ $traight 09-16-2010 06:21 PM

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;734406]You can see through sunglasses.[/quote]

But they can't see your eyes!

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-16-2010 06:33 PM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;734400]What was there to explain? Clinton just stated his views, which to me, made sense. You don't have male reporters in a WNBA or any other female locker room so you don't have any sexual incidents or people feeling awkward about having total strangers of the opposite sex checking you out, etc. The way that gal usually dressed from all those picks tells me she wanted to provoke a reaction or get some attention. What Portis said is true. You are telling me a young woman, obviously trying to get a guy worked up with provocative clothing, isn't checking them out while they are in the buff or semi in the buff? Do you think all men will have no problem having a strange woman walking around with them in the nude? THe whole things smacks of typical PC double standard stuff. Guys are pigs and girls are frigging angels. This is 2010, not 1950.[/quote]

Yes you do have men in female locker rooms

mbedner3420 09-16-2010 08:27 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;734411]Yes you do have men in female locker rooms[/quote]

but the women are usually given more time to change.

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-16-2010 08:57 PM

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[quote=mbedner3420;734427]but the women are usually given more time to change.[/quote]

So what?? What's your point there??

SmootSmack 09-16-2010 09:34 PM

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Wrong thread...but since we're discussing it. It's been mentioned maybe a dozen times that male reporters are allowed in womens locker rooms, and they're not given more time to change

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-16-2010 09:46 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;734442]Wrong thread...but since we're discussing it. It's been mentioned maybe a dozen times that male reporters are allowed in womens locker rooms, and they're not given more time to change[/quote]

PPL just dont get that at all

Giantone 09-16-2010 09:50 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;734035]How many 365 pounders are "in shape"? ;-)[/quote]



.................all the ones that went to manditory mini camp and all the pre season workouts are.

skinsfaninok 09-16-2010 10:36 PM

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Looks like we will be stuck with AH the whole season.. I don't see anyone trading for him

Pocket$ $traight 09-16-2010 11:24 PM

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[quote=Giantone;734453].................all the ones that went to manditory mini camp and all the pre season workouts are.[/quote]

Wrong...try again.

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-16-2010 11:40 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;734476]Wrong...try again.[/quote]

How do u know they aren't??

Giantone 09-17-2010 04:30 AM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;734476]Wrong...try again.[/quote]



No, you made the claim....you prove it.I'm saying if a professional player at that size does what he suppose to do by attending those team functions then the coach will see that he is in shape and play that person,you on the other hand are saying all players of that size are out of shape and the coachs let them play anyway.....to the detriment of the team and the players health.

mlmpetert 09-19-2010 02:19 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/19/redskins-deactivate-haynesworth/]Redskins deactivate Haynesworth | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

Alvin Walton 09-19-2010 02:35 PM

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Wow........
Attitude?
Trade?
Ankle?
Mixed combo of the above?

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-20-2010 09:52 PM

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I am ready to move on from AH....

Does he make a difference yesterday for our defense? Maybe we bring more pressure, but to be honest I really did not miss him much.

Dirtbag59 09-21-2010 04:55 AM

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It's so sad really. If he wanted to he could easily be the leagues most dominant Nose Tackle and the Redskins defense would really go up a level. Unfortunately he's a malcontent that's not worth the paper used to sign his contract. Our guys are right, the NT's on this team are on roller skates. Hopefully they can find someone in the next year or two that can play that Casey Hampton role. In fact I'm actually getting ready to watch the Pitt-Tenn game to see what an elite NT looks like.
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In watching the Boys-Skins game from week 1 it's obvious that Haynesworth is better at NT then Kemo. Even when he gets "blowed out" of the hole he's so fast that he gets right back in there. Also when plays go to the outside you'll notice that Kemo and Bryant stumble while Haynesworth is actually running. In a way it's kind of like Kemo is Shaq and Haynesworth is Dwight Howard. Kemo kind of stands up and doesn't move while Haynesworth gets a push in some way shape or form. If you ask me you wouldn't even have to double team Kemo at this point, rather you'd be better served going after both our linebackers with the Guards. Personally I feel like Kemo isn't as far along in his recovery from his torn Achilles as we originally thought.

In spite of the pounding he took from Collinsworth he actually played well. I hope in the coming weeks that he gets healthy and on top of that gets more playing time because with him in our defense is a lot better. I encourage anyone that can to rewatch the Dallas game and see the difference. The coaching staff and Haynesworth need to find some way to put all this together and move past the drama. If that doesn't work, then try Golston at NT. Basically I would to see the team use someone that can fire off the ball, and if Haynesworth attitude prevents him from seeing the field then at least we can use Golstons motor.

skinsfan69 09-21-2010 06:36 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;736922][B]It's so sad really. If he wanted to he could easily be the leagues most dominant Nose Tackle and the Redskins defense would really go up a level. [/B]Unfortunately he's a malcontent that's not worth the paper used to sign his contract. Our guys are right, the NT's on this team are on roller skates. Hopefully they can find someone in the next year or two that can play that Casey Hampton role. In fact I'm actually getting ready to watch the Pitt-Tenn game to see what an elite NT looks like.
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In watching the Boys-Skins game from week 1 it's obvious that Haynesworth is better at NT then Kemo. Even when he gets "blowed out" of the hole he's so fast that he gets right back in there. Also when plays go to the outside you'll notice that Kemo and Bryant stumble while Haynesworth is actually running. In a way it's kind of like Kemo is Shaq and Haynesworth is Dwight Howard. Kemo kind of stands up and doesn't move while Haynesworth gets a push in some way shape or form. If you ask me you wouldn't even have to double team Kemo at this point, rather you'd be better served going after both our linebackers with the Guards. Personally I feel like Kemo isn't as far along in his recovery from his torn Achilles as we originally thought.

In spite of the pounding he took from Collinsworth he actually played well. I hope in the coming weeks that he gets healthy and on top of that gets more playing time because with him in our defense is a lot better. I encourage anyone that can to rewatch the Dallas game and see the difference. The coaching staff and Haynesworth need to find some way to put all this together and move past the drama. If that doesn't work, then try Golston at NT. Basically I would to see the team use someone that can fire off the ball, and if Haynesworth attitude prevents him from seeing the field then at least we can use Golstons motor.[/quote]

Sorry but he's not better than Casey Hampton or Jay Ratliff. Both are so much better than AH it's not even funny. The bottom line is we shouldn't be playing this defense. I just don't understand why the coaches are so hell bent on playing a 3-4. We simply don't have a true NT. Kemo and AH are 4-3 tackles. To me it's ego based.

Dirtbag59 09-21-2010 08:24 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;736923]Sorry but he's not better than Casey Hampton or Jay Ratliff. Both are so much better than AH it's not even funny. The bottom line is we shouldn't be playing this defense. I just don't understand why the coaches are so hell bent on playing a 3-4. We simply don't have a true NT. Kemo and AH are 4-3 tackles. To me it's ego based.[/quote]

If you're talking about recent on field production then yes, Hampton and Ratliff are head and shoulders above Haynesworth. If you're talking about physical talent and ability it's the other way around. That's the part thats so frustrating, even in limited action against Dallas I saw flashes of a guy that has the potential to dominate. The way he moves for a man his size doesn't even seem fair.

Right now I just want them to play him and see if these flashes can translate into something more. If they can then it has the potential to really take this defense, and team to another level. However above all else he has to want it, and right now I have serious doubts about his willingness to play his role. Like I said, it's just frustrating to have that much talent yet not enough trust and confidence to put it to use.

skinsfan69 09-21-2010 08:50 AM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;736929]If you're talking about recent on field production then yes, Hampton and Ratliff are head and shoulders above Haynesworth. If you're talking about physical talent and ability it's the other way around. That's the part thats so frustrating, even in limited action against Dallas I saw flashes of a guy that has the potential to dominate. The way he moves for a man his size doesn't even seem fair.

Right now I just want them to play him and see if these flashes can translate into something more. If they can then it has the potential to really take this defense, and team to another level. However above all else he has to want it, and right now I have serious doubts about his willingness to play his role. Like I said, it's just frustrating to have that much talent yet not enough trust and confidence to put it to use.[/quote]

I just think he's terribly overrated. A guy who doesn't "want it" simply has no heart. Plus he's soft, constantly injured. I go back and forth on it but I think it's just time to take what Tenn. is offering and move on.

12thMan 09-21-2010 09:36 AM

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Yeah, I'm done buying this BS about AH being dominant and has so much potential. He wasn't even dominant last year. He was good, and at times dominated, but damn sure wasn't dominant. The guy isn't close to Jay Ratliff or Hampton even when he's on his game. I'd take Sean Ellis/Jets over Haynesworth.

When he's actually playing, he's good. But I'm very hesitant to call him the top, without question, defensive tackle in the league. At the rate he's going right now, it will take him another year or two to become the defensive tackle he was with Tennessee.

12thMan 09-21-2010 09:44 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;736951]I just think he's terribly overrated. A guy who doesn't "want it" simply has no heart. Plus he's soft, constantly injured. I go back and forth on it but I think it's just time to take what Tenn. is offering and move on.[/quote]


Same here, man. I don't get it. I really don't. I listen to talk radio and the local media fawn over Haynesworth like he's the second coming of Reggie White (R.I.P). Like I said, I'd take at least three guys, and that's off the top of my head, over Haynesworth.

You nailed it, a guy injured as often as he is and pouts as much as he does will never be a truly dominant, Hall of Fame caliber defensive player.

You want to see some f*cking heart, let me introduce you to the new and improved Laron Landry. How many times did the trainers come on the field for this guy and he bounced right back up? I hope he makes it through the season.

12thMan 09-21-2010 09:49 AM

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double post.

Mechanix544 09-21-2010 11:25 AM

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Laron is definitely earning his pay this year with all of those tackles.

SBXVII 09-21-2010 12:36 PM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
I can't see giving him away and the last game proved we can play with out him. Part of me says trade for whatever you can get for him and hope he's embarrassed for being traded for such low value, or don't trade him unless we get good value since we paid him 21 mill and simply let him ride the bench all yr. Other teams will be reluctant to bring him in if we simply trade him or cut him at the end of the season and he has not played a down all yr.

denim_monger 09-21-2010 12:49 PM

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hainsworth is suck a joke i still cant believe little danny snider gave him all that money, serves him right trying to run this team all hes done is run the team right into the ground sence he bought the team :soapbox:

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-21-2010 12:57 PM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=denim_monger;737028]hainsworth is suck a joke i still cant believe little danny snider gave him all that money, serves him right trying to run this team all hes done is run the team right into the ground sence he bought the team :soapbox:[/quote]

Ok whats with the Texans avatar? And the terrible spelling?

denim_monger 09-21-2010 12:58 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;737036]Ok whats with the Texans avatar? And the terrible spelling?[/quote]

texans for life baby whats yer malfuction son :spank:

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-21-2010 01:01 PM

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[quote=denim_monger;737039]texans for life baby whats yer malfuction son :spank:[/quote]

I could have sworn that you had the Giants and Bears avatars before saying the same thing.

denim_monger 09-21-2010 01:04 PM

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this year the texans r my team, i switch around lot

CRedskinsRule 09-21-2010 01:11 PM

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[quote=denim_monger;737039]texans for life baby whats yer malfuction son :spank:[/quote]

[quote=denim_monger;737045]this year the texans r my team, i switch around lot[/quote]

does anyone else find this amusing :rofl:

SirClintonPortis 09-21-2010 01:11 PM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
Ignore the ****ing troll. He's probably a puke fan in disguise.

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-21-2010 01:12 PM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=denim_monger;737045]this year the texans r my team, i switch around lot[/quote]

That doesn't make sense dude.

ashvirtually 09-21-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;737051]does anyone else find this amusing :rofl:[/quote]LOL, yeah, I was it, too. :)

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-21-2010 01:13 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;737051]does anyone else find this amusing :rofl:[/quote]

yes he says "Texans for life" then he says he switches around alot.

skinsfan69 09-21-2010 02:19 PM

Re: Redskins and Titans talking trade again on Albert Haynesworth
 
[quote=denim_monger;737028]hainsworth is suck a joke i still cant believe little danny snider gave him all that money, serves him right trying to run this team all hes done is run the team right into the ground sence he bought the team :soapbox:[/quote]

Wow. You're really on top of things dude. :rolleyes:


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