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For the past couple of seasons this team has lost a lot of close games. I hope Graham is an improvement over Gano. We need to have a good kicker, this could make a difference in winning those close games.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;817759]If it was the same person that told you all that then I would not use them as a source anymore.[/quote]

Haha. Good point. Various people though

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Gano is awful.anybody would be an improvement over him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;817764]For the past couple of seasons this team has lost a lot of close games. I hope Graham is an improvement over Gano. We need to have a good kicker, this could make a difference in winning those close games.[/quote]

Don't forget, Gano won about 3 games for us last season too. He actually made the "first" gamewinner against Houston too. Still mad about that timeout rule.

He hit the game winners in OT against the Titans, Jags and was most of the scoring in the win against Green Bay.



He also had a horrible situation with holder and long snapper last season.

The kid has a great leg and I thought he had the potential to be a great long-term kicking solution for us, which is why I'm surprised we're apparently giving up on him. Mike Shahanan seemed to stick up for him a lot last season too.






Uh oh...have we found a new long snapper? Sundberg was HORRIBLE.

I'm assuming Rocca is the new holder.

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I know this is probably one of the worst sources...but, Ahmad Bradshaw?


Great RB but we do not need another RB!

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If this happens, goodbye Royster.



Giants' GM was just on the radio (WFAN) and basically admitted the Giants are in cap hell. He said they're "dealing with the salary cap" when asked why the Giants have not made many signings and are losing so many players to other teams. The NYG fans called in afterwards and are MAD...great entertainment. They even complained about Eli Manning's contract and asked how many INTs he'll throw this year for that money.


They've lost some good players, D-line is weak from losing Cofield and are stuck with big contracts for Canty and Rocky Bernard who are underperforming for their salary. Still have not signed Prince Amukamara, their top pick.

Missed out on Burress...maybe Bradshaw...still have not given Osi a new deal.

:D

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[quote=Monkeydad;817781]I know this is probably one of the worst sources...but, Ahmad Bradshaw?


Great RB but we do not need another RB!

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If this happens, goodbye Royster.[/quote]

You know what they say: You can never have too many RBs lol. If that is true.

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[quote=SmootSmack;817765]Haha. Good point. Various people though[/quote]

Fair enough. You should sit them all down in a room together and have them talk to each other.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;817782]You know what they say: You can never have too many RBs lol. If that is true.[/quote]

Especially for Shanny.

I wouldn't mind taking him away from the Giants just for the sole purpose of taking him away from the Giants! Brandon Jacobs is about done, he'll be 30 this year.

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[quote=Monkeydad;817781]I know this is probably one of the worst sources...but, Ahmad Bradshaw?


Great RB but we do not need another RB!

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If this happens, goodbye Royster.
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I think this was before the Hightower deal...I doubt we'd be pursuing Bradshaw.

And an update on Rexy:

"kevin sheehan
just spoke to grossman, deal is not done but he feels good about gettin it done with skins this wk"

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It was posted within the last 23 hours.

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[quote=Monkeydad;817791]It was posted within the last 23 hours.[/quote]

Did we trade for Hightower 24 hours ago?

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[quote=Monkeydad;817791]It was posted within the last 23 hours.[/quote]

Signed Hightower like 22 hours ago.

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The Bradshaw rumors kicked up yesterday, but with Hightower coming aboard that move doesn't appear to be likely now. Not that it really did in the first place, seemed more like his camp trying to leverage himself with the Giants.

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still have'nt seen anything about graham and the skins.

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Speaking of folks like kickers, what is our plan at long snapper? Please not Sundberg.

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[quote=tomsawyer;817818]still have'nt seen anything about graham and the skins.[/quote]


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Shayne Graham's been added and there's rumors of Kyle Orton being traded to the skins

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[quote=rbanerjee23;817866]Shayne Graham's been added and there's rumors of Kyle Orton being traded to the skins[/quote]

CSN's Rich Tandler is speculating about this...
"Rich Tandler
A conspiracy theory: Kyle Orton trade rumors coming up just when Rex needs a push to sign his deal to get in on Thurs. not a coincidence."

Anyone know what Denver was asking of Miami?

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[B]Skins agreed to terms with Graham.[/B]
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A 2nd or 3rd and a "pro bowl caliber player" was the last I'd heard

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WP said we signed graham.also signed a few ufa's this weekend and the roster is up to 84.

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[quote=SmootSmack;817872]A 2nd or 3rd and a "pro bowl caliber player" was the last I'd heard[/quote]

Damn, that's a lot. The only think that I could think of is a 3rd and Cooley. But that would suck. I think that price is too high.

The ESPN980 guys threw Dixon's name around as they discussed QBs (from Pittsburgh).

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[quote=SmootSmack;817872]A 2nd or 3rd and a "pro bowl caliber player" was the last I'd heard[/quote]

After that fiasco last year, I'd drive to D.C. myself and slap the shit out of Shanny if he made such a stupid trade again.

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[quote=Ruhskins;817877]Damn, that's a lot. The only think that I could think of is a 3rd and Cooley. But that would suck. I think that price is too high.

The ESPN980 guys threw Dixon's name around as they discussed QBs (from Pittsburgh).[/quote]

That asking price is awfully high for Orton, but I would think Denver would consider taking less if the market dries up for Orton.
Orton would be an improvement over Rex/Beck. An entire season of Rex/Beck would spell sub .500 season for sure. Rex is a turnover machine. Small hands.
I don't like him.
Orton is well respected by his peers. Orton has been productive everywhere he has played. He fits the proven NFL caliber QB more then our Rex/Beck.

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[quote=NC_Skins;817882]After that fiasco last year, I'd drive to D.C. myself and slap the shit out of Shanny if he made such a stupid trade again.[/quote]

I hate to say this, but I feel that the McNabb trade was a different situation. He was on his way to being washed up and was on his way out in Philly since everyone was getting enamored with Kolb. The fact that they were willing to trade him to a division rival should have been a red flag.

Orton played in a team that was beaten up and left for dead by Son of Hoody (a.k.a. McDaniels). And I think he could be a good QB for a team.

Now, I don't think Orton is worth a 2nd rounder, but I'd happily trade for him for a 3rd and a late draft pick.

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2nd round pick would def put a hurtin on the team for a while.

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Broncos owe him 9 mill.i don't think they'll pay that for a back up to tebow,does anyone else?

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[quote=tomsawyer;817939]Broncos owe him 9 mill.i don't think they'll pay that for a back up to tebow,does anyone else?[/quote]

Orton was apparently taking reps with the first team in camp for what that is worth.

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I'd give a third for the guy. He is far and away better than onyone we have, and to be honest is a good winning QB. You can't deny his record in the NFL either. He is a winner, and a much better prospect than even DM last year.

I am torn on the report, part of me wants to go with what we have and hope that MS has seen something in Beck that will translate into a winning QB in the NFL. BUT part of me wants to bring in a proven NFL QB. A guy who has thrown 41tds in 2 years is something we have not seen in B&G in a long time.

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Orton will be Denver's starter Week 1.

If it's a fair competition, he'll beat out Tebow. Brady Quinn...ha...

When the team has 2 wins (if they're lucky) around the mid-way point of the season, Tebow will be back and probably for good.

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I don't want Orton if those rumors are true.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;816893]Hayden is worth a look.[/quote]

Looks like we're going to give him one

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[quote=SmootSmack;818021]Looks like we're going to give him one[/quote]

Nice!

Tatupu too

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He has two bad knees but if we can get him cheap...we should. (Lofa)

He's visiting the Raiders today though.

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Hope they give Crowder a look... would much rather have him than Lofa.

[quote=Monkeydad;818025]Nice!

Tatupu too

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He has two bad knees but if we can get him cheap...we should. (Lofa)

He's visiting the Raiders today though.[/quote]

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[quote=Monkeydad;818025]Nice!

Tatupu too

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He has two bad knees but if we can get him cheap...we should. (Lofa)

He's visiting the Raiders today though.[/quote]

Tatupu doesn't fit our defense, too small to play ILB

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[quote=CultBrennan59;818042]Tatupu doesn't fit our defense, too small to play ILB[/quote]

Ummmm., average weight for an ILB is 240...........he is 250

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;818048]Ummmm., average weight for an ILB is 240...........he is 250[/quote]

He gets over powered in the run game, and has had knee problems, two no-nos

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[quote=CultBrennan59;818051]He gets over powered in the run game, and has had knee problems, two no-nos[/quote]

OK thats fine but my point being he's not to small. Knees are bad but worth a look i think.

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why let henson riley blades and alexander fight for the other ILB position

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[quote=musicmaster45;818058]why let henson riley blades and alexander fight for the other ILB position[/quote]

Yeah you're right actually, I have really high hopes for Henson. I loved him in pre-season last year. He's on the PUP right now i heard tho.............:(