Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=SmootSmack;879256]Ok, listen 15 has nothing to do with Tebow I can ensure you[/quote]

Jeff Hostetler?

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=Hog1;879263]Did you not read the part about Walt looking and birds flying into windows.......and such......[/quote]

What?

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=NC_Skins;879248]I figured it was back to the Bradford thing, but I don't see what leverage the Rams have in dealing him. Sure he was a #1 pick, but he hasn't really done anything to warrant a huge asking price at this stage ([B]i know he has crappy talent[/B]). Picks now are generally worth more than picks in the past. (so to speak) Also,[B] we could force their hand on draft day if they really want RGIII that bad. [/B]It's either discount Bradford or be stuck with two QBs. I know SHanny loves the guy because he tried to trade up for him when he came out. He wasn't willing to overpay then so I imagine he's not going to want to overpay now.[/quote]

#1- I don't want Bradford. His supporting cast sucks in St Louis.... it sucks here also. If he can't get it done there he won't get it done here.

#2- We have no leverage over the Rams. Belive it or not they could keep Bradford and draft RGIII. Although they have a big contract with Bradford there is now a Rookie CAP so they wouldn't for RGIII.

#3- Plus the Rams would be smart to keep Bradford in case RGIII gets injured they will have a decent back up.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

Honestly, Bradford to the Skins for the #6 pick makes perfect sense for both sides, really.

Shanny HAS to get the QB he's staking his career and rep on... and he's always liked Bradford... so #6 is no problem to the Skins....

And for the Rams... RGIII may have a higher ceiling, and they have so much rebuilding to do... the younger their QB is, and the more picks they have, the better.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=Hail to the Redskins;879269]Honestly, Bradford to the Skins for the #6 pick makes perfect sense for both sides, really.

Shanny HAS to get the QB he's staking his career and rep on... and he's always liked Bradford... so #6 is no problem to the Skins....

And for the Rams... RGIII may have a higher ceiling, and they have so much rebuilding to do... the younger their QB is, and the more picks they have, the better.[/quote]Well, it's an awful trade for the Redskins, but outside of that, it's great for everyone!

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

Wait, anyone confirm if the Colts have or are going to release Peyton Manning? Jim Irsay is disappointed that Manning aired out family laundry.

Getting interesting...

SS, Manning to Dallas?

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=GTripp0012;879271]Well, it's an awful trade for the Redskins, but outside of that, it's great for everyone![/quote]

Note... I don't LOVE the trade or think it's a great one for the Skins... I'm just saying... with Shanny going into year 3 and DESPERATE for a QB... and the fact that he has always had a thing for Bradford... it makes SENSE for it to happen... that's all.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=Hail to the Redskins;879269]Honestly, Bradford to the Skins for the #6 pick makes perfect sense for both sides, really.

Shanny HAS to get the QB he's staking his career and rep on... and he's always liked Bradford... so #6 is no problem to the Skins....

And for the Rams... RGIII may have a higher ceiling, and they have so much rebuilding to do... the younger their QB is, and the more picks they have, the better.[/quote]

They can't ask for to much Bradford contract was before the rookie CAP was in place. 1st & 3rd & maybe next yrs 2nd.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=GTripp0012;879271]Well, it's an awful trade for the Redskins, but outside of that, it's great for everyone![/quote]

How is that bad for the skins? They get a first overall pick for a 1.6 pick.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=12thMan;879272]Wait, anyone confirm if the Colts have or are going to release Peyton Manning? Jim Irsay is disappointed that Manning aired out family laundry.

Getting interesting...

SS, Manning to Dallas?[/quote]

I was just throwing Manning to Dallas out there. There was no basis for it

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=mbedner3420;879275]How is that bad for the skins? They get a first overall pick for a 1.6 pick.[/quote]Can sign David Carr for under $1 mil, if the idea is to get a number one overall pick.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=SmootSmack;879277]I was just throwing Manning to Dallas out there. There was no basis for it[/quote]

Still...

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=GTripp0012;879278]Can sign David Carr for under $1 mil, if the idea is to get a number one overall pick.[/quote]

I think it's safe to say Bradford is more talented than Carr.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=12thMan;879272]Wait, anyone confirm if the Colts have or are going to release Peyton Manning? Jim Irsay is disappointed that Manning aired out family laundry.

Getting interesting...

SS, Manning to Dallas?[/quote]

I think Manning is definitely gone. Where he lands? Who knows. I kind of feel bad for Denver on this one. They have a good defense, decent backs, good O-Line, and D. Thomas.

If they signed Manning and grabbed M. Floyd or A. Jeffery (or grab R. Wayne and/or P. Garcon), they'd be SCARY.

However... they have this Tebone (is that it?) guy they absolutely could not do that to at this point.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=mbedner3420;879280]I think it's safe to say Bradford is more talented than Carr.[/quote]Maybe. Maybe not.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=GTripp0012;879282]Maybe. Maybe not.[/quote]

I think you put a good line around him or at least a good LT.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=Hail to the Redskins;879269]Honestly, Bradford to the Skins for the #6 pick makes perfect sense for both sides, really.

[B]Shanny HAS to get the QB he's staking his career and rep on[/B]... and he's always liked Bradford... so #6 is no problem to the Skins....

And for the Rams... RGIII may have a higher ceiling, and they have so much rebuilding to do... the younger their QB is, and the more picks they have, the better.[/quote]

Yep, just like Beck had to be the QB cause he almost took him when he was coming out in the draft and staked his reputation on him as a starter this year and always liked him. Wow.... it sounds so familiar.

and no it does not make perfect sense for both sides to trade. The Skins are rebuilding also. Didn't MS just tell us that towards the end of the season? Maybe Bradford to Houston makes sense, maybe Bradford to Dallas makes sense, Bradford to stay with the Rams makes more sense unless he's not a franchise QB and now they are looking for one like we are.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

From the current riddles:
could fishing have anything to do with a team like maybe the dolphins?
who may be in the market for a volunteer?
bears could be baylor?

Far-fetched Idea:
Rams send Bradford to Indianapolis, not sure exactly the package. RGIII a ram.
Peyton to Miami. Gets Brady twice a season.
Skins deal Orakpo Our First and Next Years First, plus a second somewhere for pick number one. Andrew Luck.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

Clearly, things have changed. But these should tide you guys over until I start a new thread

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/870719-post75.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/848314-post430.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/200947-post1.html[/url]

Or maybe it will leave you more confused

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=SmootSmack;879290]Clearly, things have changed. But these should tide you guys over until I start a new thread

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/870719-post75.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/848314-post430.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/200947-post1.html[/url]

Or maybe it will leave you more confused[/quote]

I got it: we are trading John beck to Indy for Andrew luck and their 2013 first round pick. Nailed it!

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

Is 15 a hint cause I am guessing Brandon Marshall.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=SmootSmack;879194]Maybe...or maybe he's my "polar bear" or my "birds randomly flying into the windows and dying whenever Walt looked their way, but then suddenly Walt goes through puberty and he's no longer a part of the show so it's like everything with him never happened"[/quote]

Wow. Of all the stupid things that show did to piss me off, I forgot about that one.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

Seriously though, teams cant trade jack now so all this talk is very premature. Not sure how anything could happen in 72 hours

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=SmootSmack;879290]Clearly, things have changed. But these should tide you guys over until I start a new thread

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/870719-post75.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/848314-post430.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/200947-post1.html[/url]

Or maybe it will leave you more confused[/quote]

I enjoyed those.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=SmootSmack;879256]Ok, listen 15 has nothing to do with Tebow I can ensure you[/quote]

Is 15 the number of 1st round draft picks were trading for the 1st overall pick and Andrew luck?

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=Player_HTTR;879293]Is 15 a hint cause I am guessing Brandon Marshall.[/quote]

It's not a jersey number

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

Draft choices.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=SmootSmack;879290]Clearly, things have changed. But these should tide you guys over until I start a new thread

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/870719-post75.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/848314-post430.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/200947-post1.html[/url]

Or maybe it will leave you more confused[/quote]

Your really enjoying this.

QBs in play im guessing are: Bradford, Manning, Luck and RG3.

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[quote=SmootSmack;879300]It's not a jersey number[/quote]

The Eagles are involved because they have the [B]15th[/B] pick???

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

By 15 did you really mean 10?

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=12thMan;879272]Wait, anyone confirm if the Colts have or are going to release Peyton Manning? Jim Irsay is disappointed that Manning aired out family laundry.
[/quote]


[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7507255/indianapolis-colts-jim-irsay-upset-peyton-manning-went-public-comments]Indianapolis Colts' Jim Irsay upset Peyton Manning went public with comments - ESPN[/url]


Schefter telling it like it is on the video. Little to no chance he's back with Colts based on their actions.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=SmootSmack;879290]Clearly, things have changed. But these should tide you guys over until I start a new thread

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/870719-post75.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/848314-post430.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/200947-post1.html[/url]

Or maybe it will leave you more confused[/quote]



We move up in #1 spot and draft Luck.
Colts move down to #2 and draft RGIII.


We give Trent Williams and Brian Orakpo to St. Louis and possible future picks.
We give up possible future first rounder and few picks to Colts.


Three team trade where St. Louis basically gives up their #2 pick for TW/BO and future picks as well as Colts and us swapping places for future first and additional picks.

We also keep our #6 pick in this years draft.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

You forgot about Colt Brennan...and Nick Sundberg

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=SmootSmack;879290]Clearly, things have changed. But these should tide you guys over until I start a new thread

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/870719-post75.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/848314-post430.html[/url]

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/200947-post1.html[/url]

Or maybe it will leave you more confused[/quote]

Byte me, SmootSmack! I've had enough of your evil torture. I'll just wait.

Everything will probably change ten times before any trades can be made, anyway.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=NC_Skins;879307]We move up in #1 spot and draft Luck.
Colts move down to #2 and draft RGIII.


We give Trent Williams and Brian Orakpo to St. Louis and possible future picks.
We give up possible future first rounder and few picks to Colts.


Three team trade where St. Louis basically gives up their #2 pick for TW/BO and future picks as well as Colts and us swapping places for future first and additional picks.[/quote]

This is dumbest trade idea have ever seen we give are starting LT and OLB and future first round and lower round picks for a QB. This is not madden.

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[quote=redskins5044;879310]This is dumbest trade idea have ever seen we give are starting LT and OLB and future first round and lower round picks for a QB. This is not madden.[/quote]


Calm down. This isn't my trade idea. It's what I'm deriving from Smoots posts he linked.


Realistically, that's about what it would take to move up to the #1 spot without giving up this years first rounder.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=NC_Skins;879311]Calm down. This isn't my trade idea. It's what I'm deriving from Smoots posts he linked.


Realistically, that's about what it would take to move up to the #1 spot without giving up this years first rounder.[/quote]

Wow I'd be happy if it was that cheap

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

where's it at? Let us have it!!!

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=NC_Skins;879311]Calm down. This isn't my trade idea. It's what I'm deriving from Smoots posts he linked.


Realistically, that's about what it would take to move up to the #1 spot without giving up this years first rounder.[/quote]

Maybe I didn't read it right so by this we would have the 1st and 6th overall in this draft. Maybe I would do that, but that's making a lot more holes to fill to me.

Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...
 

[quote=redskins5044;879314]Maybe I didn't read it right so by this we would have the 1st and 6th overall in this draft. Maybe I would do that, but that's making a lot more holes to fill to me.[/quote]

Yeah, I added that we keep our #6 pick to prevent any confusion. It' a lot to give up but you are getting to keep your high pick this year which could be used to trade back to recoup some picks and pick up another LT.


I probably would pull the trigger on this no doubt.