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As a Redskin fan, what I would like to see is Washington not only getting Griffin III in the deal, but landing either a late round draft pick or a Rams player all in exchange for the 2nd overall pick and the draft choices that will be exchanged for it.

I just hope we don't give up too much, this team needs it's picks and 4 picks to move 4 spots? To me that's not worth it.

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[quote= Gil Brandt]"I think he[Tannehill] deserves to be in the top 10,'' "I'm a believer in the guy. He's really smart, and I think he might be the only college football quarterback in history who has beaten Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas in the same season, which he did in 2010, when he only became the starter at midseason[/quote]
Gil Brandt on Tannehill.

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[quote=30gut;890063]Gil Brandt on Tannehill.[/quote]

I respect Brandt, he's been around a long time and knows what he's doing.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;890066]I respect Brandt, he's been around a long time and knows what he's doing.[/QUOTE]

I see him as the Sam Huff of Sirius. Knowledgeable but going downhill as an announcer fast.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;890068]I see him as the Sam Huff of Sirius. Knowledgeable but going downhill as an announcer fast.[/quote]

Yeah he can be tough to listen to, he's not exactly cut out for radio, but he knows talent.

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[quote=Mattyk;890069]Yeah he can be tough to listen to, he's not exactly cut out for radio, but he knows talent.[/quote]

He def knows football, and I totally agree that listening to him doing radio is about the equivalent to listening to daffy duck. That being said I respect him as a talent evaluator a hell of alot.

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[quote=GreekSkin;890051]Every time I see SS has the last post in this thread I expect some sort of insider info that will put me at ease....

I hate/love this time of year[/quote]

hahaha, I totally agree!

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OMGWTFBBQ 40 tIMZ ftw
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;890068]I see him as the Sam Huff of Sirius. Knowledgeable but going downhill as an announcer fast.[/quote]

That's a little rough. Gil is sharp as a tack for an old man and knows these players like the back of his hand. Huff is as senile as the day is long and sounds confused every time he opens his mouth.

If were gonna bash people on Sirius...lets talk Sheinbox. God awful windbag...

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[quote=celts32;890088]That's a little rough. Gil is sharp as a tack for an old man and knows these players like the back of his hand. Huff is as senile as the day is long and sounds confused every time he opens his mouth.

If were gonna bash people on Sirius...lets talk Sheinbox. God awful windbag...[/quote]

Nonstop on this, nonstop on that, every interview is tremendous... lol he used to annoy the piss outta me but I guess he's kinda grown on me. Or I've just learned to tolerate him would be a better way to put it.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;890069]Yeah he can be tough to listen to, he's not exactly cut out for radio, but he knows talent.[/QUOTE]
I agree

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I'm going to predict the QB carousel.

[B]Indianapolis [/B]- Luck (1st Overall)

[B]Washington [/B]- Griffin (2nd Overall), Clausen (FA)

[B]Cleveland [/B]- Flynn (FA)

[B]Miami [/B]- Tannehill (1st Round) - Matt Moore remains starter

[B]New York Jets[/B] - Manning (FA) - Release Sanchize

[B]Seattle [/B]- Osweiler (1st Round) - Sign Leinart or Sanchez

[B]Jacksonville [/B]- I'm going to go out on a limb and say they use a second round pick on Foles

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I am just sitting back and watching this frenzy for a QB who has never taken a snap in the NFL....think about it....how much would it take to trade for Brady?....5 draft picks including 2 #1s?

Ya know...if that were proposed, many would say that is too much.
But a 1st round QB that may have as much as high as a 50% chance of a flop as many 1st rounders have shown, is worth 5 draft picks?

I just don't get it....a month ago, folks were saying he could fall to us, because there was another QB in the mix, now Tannehill has gone from round 2 to #6 overall.

This is crazy, I sure am glad the draft is a long way off.
Honestly, I have issues of giving up next years #1 and this years #3 for this guy. Sure, he sounds great...but the press has totally flipped...probably to sell a great offseason story when everything is dead.

I would be fine if we kept all our pick, signed Manning, got Tannehill in the 2nd round...or lower first and kept all the picks we desperately need to build a team....last I heard there were like 52 guys or so on a team..and about 40 of em could be upgraded. We can only upgrade 7 a year via draft on average, that that means years of being patient to fix the Redskins neglect.

Time to take the emotion out of it and put on a cool head.....or go nuts again and win the offseason again!!....I just wish they gave out a football shaped trophy and a fancy ring for that.

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;890096]I'm going to predict the QB carousel.

[B]Indianapolis [/B]- Luck (1st Overall)

[B]Washington [/B]- Griffin (2nd Overall), Clausen (FA)

[B]Cleveland [/B]- Flynn (FA)

[B]Miami [/B]- Tannehill (1st Round) - Matt Moore remains starter

[B]New York Jets[/B] - Manning (FA) - Release Sanchize

[B]Seattle [/B]- Osweiler (1st Round) - Sign Leinart or Sanchez

[B]Jacksonville [/B]- I'm going to go out on a limb and say they use a second round pick on Foles[/QUOTE]

I say this will end up being pretty accurate

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I agree skinsut, Manning/Tannehill is what I'd like over Trading half a draft for one QB that honestly played against bad defenses all season long.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;890099]I agree skinsut, Manning/Tannehill is what I'd like over Trading half a draft for one QB that honestly played against[B] bad defenses all season long[/B].[/quote]

If thats the case then you would only be in favor of drafting QB's from the SEC. Keep in mind these defenses are filled with 4 and 5 star recruits from Texas and Oklahoma a good amount of whom have a shot of playing in the NFL some day. They're not to be taken lightly. And also keep in mind that RGIII dominated these teams through both the air and the ground with an inferior supporting cast.

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if the deal does happen for the #2 pick and us do yo guys think it happens sooner or later? before free agency?

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;890105]if the deal does happen for the #2 pick and us do yo guys think it happens sooner or later? before free agency?[/quote]

Later. You have to make sure he's healthy by the time draft day rolls around.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;890096]I'm going to predict the QB carousel.

[B]Indianapolis [/B]- Luck (1st Overall)

[B]Washington [/B]- Griffin (2nd Overall), Clausen (FA)

[B]Cleveland [/B]- Flynn (FA)

[B]Miami [/B]- Tannehill (1st Round) - Matt Moore remains starter

[B]New York Jets[/B] - Manning (FA) - Release Sanchize

[B]Seattle [/B]- Osweiler (1st Round) - Sign Leinart or Sanchez

[B]Jacksonville [/B]- I'm going to go out on a limb and say they use a second round pick on Foles[/quote]

Not bad.

I don't get the feeling Clausen will be here

Jets don't want to take the hit of releasing Sanchez. Thats why they are trying desoerately to gauge his value right now before Peyton's in play

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[quote=SmootSmack;890111]Not bad.

I don't get the feeling Clausen will be here

Jets don't want to take the hit of releasing Sanchez. Thats why they are trying desoerately to gauge his value right now before Peyton's in play[/quote]

Actually I'm curious to see if they do go the Peyton route will they keep Sanchez around like they did with Clemens after acquiring Favre. Granted it's a different situation with Sanchez's contract but it'll be interesting to see.

Jets would probably be the best situation for the Manning family. The two brothers get to compete with each other without competing with each other all the while getting a chance to see each other on a regular basis. I'm pretty sure the parents would like that situation as well.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;890113]Actually I'm curious to see if they do go the Peyton route will they keep Sanchez around like they did with Clemens after acquiring Favre. Granted it's a different situation with Sanchez's contract but it'll be interesting to see.

Jets would probably be the best situation for the Manning family. The two brothers get to compete with each other without competing with each other all the while getting a chance to see each other on a regular basis. I'm pretty sure the parents would like that situation as well.[/quote]

Makes good sense, but I wonder if Peyton wants to put of w/ R Ryan's nonsense?

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If the Redskins are going to "Ditka" this draft then they should go all the way and try to trade with Indy (needs picks just like the Rams) for Luck, if you are going to blow a load do it right.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;890119]If the Redskins are going to "Ditka" this draft then they should go all the way and try to trade with Indy (needs picks just like the Rams) for Luck, if you are going to blow a load do it right.[/quote]

we are both on the Luck side I can see lol

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;890119]If the Redskins are going to "Ditka" this draft then they should go all the way and try to trade with Indy (needs picks just like the Rams) for Luck, if you are going to blow a load do it right.[/quote]

I don't think anyone is suggesting going Ditka to get RGIII. Going Eli seems to be more appropriate. Of course I think some of you are holding out for this prospect from the 2032 class.
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[quote=celts32;890088]That's a little rough. Gil is sharp as a tack [B]for an old man[/B] and knows these players like the back of his hand. Huff is as [B]senile[/B] as the day is long and sounds confused every time he opens his mouth.

If were gonna bash people on Sirius...lets talk Sheinbox. God awful windbag...[/quote]

Despite your positive sentiment, what you said is expressly ageist.

I don't mean to be annoying, but as an aging services professional, I feel compelled to advocate. If it were racially insensitive I suspect we'd all say something. Just trying to spread a positive message:

Elderhood should not be seen as an inevitable period of decline leading to death, but a stage of continued personal, interpersonal, and spiritual growth. It is also a stage of life at which we achieve the greatest differentiation, older adults are all unique, and should be respected as individuals. The more we marginalize our elders, the more we rob them of the fulfilling respectable lives they deserve. I know that was not in any way your intent, but it is a stereotype that is constantly propagated in our society.

Sorry for being the PC police.

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[quote=WillH;890122]Despite your positive sentiment, what you said is expressly ageist.

I don't mean to be annoying, but as an aging services professional, I feel compelled to advocate. If it were racially insensitive I suspect we'd all say something. Just trying to spread a positive message:

Elderhood should not be seen as an inevitable period of decline leading to death, but a stage of continued personal, interpersonal, and spiritual growth. It is also a stage of life at which we achieve the greatest differentiation, older adults are all unique, and should be respected as individuals. The more we marginalize our elders, the more we rob them of the fulfilling respectable lives they deserve. I know that was not in any way your intent, but it is a stereotype that is constantly propagated in our society.

Sorry for being the PC police.[/quote]

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So Smoot..you wanna tell us that rumor about Orakpo..will it happen?

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[quote=WillH;890122]Despite your positive sentiment, what you said is expressly ageist.

I don't mean to be annoying, but as an aging services professional, I feel compelled to advocate. If it were racially insensitive I suspect we'd all say something. Just trying to spread a positive message:

Elderhood should not be seen as an inevitable period of decline leading to death, but a stage of continued personal, interpersonal, and spiritual growth. It is also a stage of life at which we achieve the greatest differentiation, older adults are all unique, and should be respected as individuals. The more we marginalize our elders, the more we rob them of the fulfilling respectable lives they deserve. I know that was not in any way your intent, but it is a stereotype that is constantly propagated in our society.

Sorry for being the PC police.[/quote]

Valid points....but I'm still not thrilled with the idea of Weeden

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Nothing new on Rak

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[quote=WillH;890122]Despite your positive sentiment, what you said is expressly ageist.

I don't mean to be annoying, but as an aging services professional, I feel compelled to advocate. If it were racially insensitive I suspect we'd all say something. Just trying to spread a positive message:

Elderhood should not be seen as an inevitable period of decline leading to death, but a stage of continued personal, interpersonal, and spiritual growth. It is also a stage of life at which we achieve the greatest differentiation, older adults are all unique, and should be respected as individuals. The more we marginalize our elders, the more we rob them of the fulfilling respectable lives they deserve. I know that was not in any way your intent, but it is a stereotype that is constantly propagated in our society.

Sorry for being the PC police.[/quote]

This Is pro sports, not an office. Even the most talented of nfl quarterbacks are done by 40. Weeden will most certainly have a shorter career than an equally talented quarterback who is 6 years younger. When teams are looking for a guy to solidify a position for 15 years, and theyre using valuable draft picks to acquire the player, they'd be stupid to go with the older guy.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890126]Valid points....but I'm still not thrilled with the idea of Weeden[/quote]

Well played sir.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890127]Nothing new on Rak[/quote]

Ok, how bout our OL interests in draft/FA I know we've talked with the top 3 OT's.

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piggyback off Dirtbag:

[B]Indianapolis [/B]- Luck (1st Overall)

[B]Washington [/B]- Griffin (4th Overall), Henne (FA)

[B]Cleveland [/B]- Riley Reiff (6th Overall), Jason Campbell (FA) starter to be determined in a training camp competition that McCoy will likely win

[B]Miami [/B]- Matt Flynn - Matt Moore loses in an 'open' competition

[B]New York Jets[/B] - Manning (FA) -

[B]Seattle [/B]- Tannehill (1st Round) - McNabb (FA) starter until/if Tannehill is ready or the team starts losing

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[quote=30gut;890131]piggyback off Dirtbag:

[B]Indianapolis [/B]- Luck (1st Overall)

[B]Washington [/B]- Griffin (4th Overall), Henne (FA)

[B]Cleveland [/B]- Riley Reiff (6th Overall), Jason Campbell (FA)

[B]Miami [/B]- Matt Flynn - Matt Moore remains starter

[B]New York Jets[/B] - Manning (FA) -

[B]Seattle [/B]- Tannehill (1st Round) - McNabb (FA)[/quote]

Reverse Washington and Cleveland and then add Tannehill to Washington and you have it.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;890128]This Is pro sports, not an office. Even the most talented of nfl quarterbacks are done by 40. Weeden will most certainly have a shorter career than an equally talented quarterback who is 6 years younger. When teams are looking for a guy to solidify a position for 15 years, and theyre using valuable draft picks to acquire the player, they'd be stupid to go with the older guy.[/quote]

You didnt actually read the post he was referring to, did you?

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Had a dream we draft Tannehill and Cousins last night. So it def happening.

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[quote=SmootSmack;890141]You didnt actually read the post he was referring to, did you?[/quote]

:embarrass

evidently not. we really need a wipe egg off your face emoticon.

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[quote=Chico23231;890150]Had a dream we draft Tannehill and Cousins last night. So it def happening.[/quote]

I'm comfortable with this development. Screw Smoot and his insider information, you just keep dreaming, Chico! Do you remember any late round gems we snagged?

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[quote=Chico23231;890150]Had a dream we draft Tannehill and Cousins last night. So it def happening.[/quote]

Did you see them get drafted or were you being told by a third person?