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[quote=SFREDSKIN;996951]Yes he is and always will be the fastest!!

[URL="http://blog.redskins.com/2013/03/07/is-hofer-green-still-nfls-fastest-man/"]The Redskins Blog | Is HOFer Green Still NFL’s Fastest Man?[/URL][/quote]

I will always remember when everyone took notice of DG when he ran down Dorset I think his rookie year.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Hy5NJyqYg"]The Great Darrell Green Feature - YouTube[/ame]

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[quote=firstdown;996959]I will always remember when everyone took notice of DG when he ran down Dorset I think his rookie year.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Hy5NJyqYg"]The Great Darrell Green Feature - YouTube[/url][/quote]

Darrell caught them all from behind, Rice, Irvin, Moss, Dickerson, Gault, Brown, Dorsett.

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[quote=firstdown;996959]I will always remember when everyone took notice of DG when he ran down Dorset I think his rookie year.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Hy5NJyqYg"]The Great Darrell Green Feature - YouTube[/URL][/quote]


Chills; love that guy.

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[quote=firstdown;996949]Come on he just chucked it down field? Your making my point. One of the best plays in SB history and the only credit you give him is chucking the ball down field. His brother would have gone down to avoid taking a hit like he normally does.[/quote]

Did he hit Tyree in stride? Did he throw it over one defender but underneath another? Did he drop it over Tyree's shoulder when he was in tight coverage?

Tyree and the safety were standing there waiting for the ball to come down. Tyree made the play over the safety. Its considered a great play because of the helmet catch.

Edit: They also won that game 17-10. The undefeated Patriots, who set all kinds of offensive records that year, scored 10 points. They won because of their defense.

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[quote=Skinzman;996964]Did he hit Tyree in stride? Did he throw it over one defender but underneath another? Did he drop it over Tyree's shoulder when he was in tight coverage?

Tyree and the safety were standing there waiting for the ball to come down. Tyree made the play over the safety. Its considered a great play because of the helmet catch.

Edit: They also won that game 17-10. The undefeated Patriots, who set all kinds of offensive records that year, scored 10 points. They won because of their defense.[/quote]

17-14, not 17-10

Im gonna call a few players & start negotiating .

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[quote=Skinzman;996964]. Its considered a great play because of the helmet catch.

.[/quote]

Well, add in also Eli had to escape ,was almost pulled down and did it on the run.Did the Giants D play well yes but so did Eli.

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[quote=Giantone;997016]Well, add in also Eli had to escape ,was almost pulled down and did it on the run.Did the Giants D play well yes but so did Eli.[/quote]

If you read my entire response, you will see that I mentioned the escape. I still dont understand why people are so quick to jump on that specific play. Eli's play was escaping, not the throw. The throw was more of a hail mary than anything. If you want to highlight a throw of Eli's, why people dont talk about the second SB with the Manningham catch. That was as close to a perfect pass as you can get in that situation. It also required one helluva catch. That play can easily go down as one of the best in a SB due to the fact that it took a great throw as well as a great catch just to be a successful play.

Also just to add, I never once said Eli sucks. I dont consider him elite due to his inconsistency, but to say someone is not elite does not mean that to say that they arent any good. I consider Eli to be in that tier just below the group that includes Brady and Rodgers. He has played games where he played like Brady, but he also has his fair share of games where he played like Rex Grossman.

Edit: Actually it was a post or two earlier where I mention that escape, not the specific post you quoted.

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[quote=firstdown;996899]I'm an Eli fan. The guy does not get the credit but he is one of the better QB's in the NFL. I'd take him in crunch time over his brother that is great but has a hard time when the big games come around.[/quote]

Eli over Peyton, in any situation?????

Ya, no thanks.

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You still crying about Eli in this thread?
Go play with your Pokemons.

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People were asking who would be a replacement for Lorenzo should he leave.
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/10/steve-taskers-son-enters-the-draft-pool/]Steve Tasker’s son enters the draft pool | ProFootballTalk[/url]

how about a former all time great special teams player Steve Taskers son?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;997327]People were asking who would be a replacement for Lorenzo should he leave.
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/10/steve-taskers-son-enters-the-draft-pool/]Steve Tasker’s son enters the draft pool | ProFootballTalk[/url]

how about a former all time great special teams player Steve Taskers son?[/quote]

I'm gonna say it, I'm not a huge fan of signing/drafting players who are sons of formerly great players. Just because they're related doesn't mean we'd be getting Steve Tasker 2.0. Case in point: Jarrett Payton.

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Or Peyton Manning.

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[quote=mooby;997338]I'm gonna say it, I'm not a huge fan of signing/drafting players who are sons of formerly great players. Just because they're related doesn't mean we'd be getting Steve Tasker 2.0. Case in point: Jarrett Payton.[/quote]

Although there are exceptions to your argument, I agree with your essential logic: just 'cuz Daddy was a great player doesn't mean you will be, too.

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[quote=Lotus;997348]Although there are exceptions to your argument, I agree with your essential logic: just 'cuz Daddy was a great player doesn't mean you will be, too.[/quote]

Nailed exactly what I was thinking. I didn't say there were absolutely no exceptions AW.

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For all you star wars AND football fans
[url=http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/09000d5d828db295/star-wars-connections-in-the-nfl-universe#photo=1]Star Wars connections in the NFL universe | NFL.com[/url]

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Oh and we had the 9th best kicker last year, who didn't even play the whole season. Wow. Imagine how good he'll be if he plays the whole year.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1444322-br-nfl-1000-2013-top-32-kickers/page/25]B/R NFL 1000 2013: Top 32 Kickers | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[url=http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/243a3de611/rob-jackson-s-st-paddy-s-day]Rob Jackson's St. Paddy's Day from Funny Or Die, RobJackson, Amir Arison, Jake Gibson, TimCairo, Christin Trogan, and ESPN UNITE[/url]

Why Rob Jackson is in a funny or die skit? I don't know. But I did get a chuckle out of it.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;998800]Oh and we had the 9th best kicker last year, who didn't even play the whole season. Wow. Imagine how good he'll be if he plays the whole year.

[URL="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1444322-br-nfl-1000-2013-top-32-kickers/page/25"]B/R NFL 1000 2013: Top 32 Kickers | Bleacher Report[/URL][/quote]

Move over Mark Moseley. Kai for MVP.

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I hope Kai stays on target this year. It was nice to have a consistency in the kicking game, still wouldn't mind having a dedicated KO kicker though.

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Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora
Getting back to Dumervil, smart to take deal, sacrifice $4M, still play opposite Miller. Big $ wasn't out there for him and market crowded

Mike Klis ‏@MikeKlis
Hold on, contract not filed in time. Elvis Dumervil has been officially released

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John Clayton ‏@ClaytonESPN
What a mess in Denver. They must have filed the Welker contract and gone over the cap. So Elvis has left the roster.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/15/fax-snafu-leads-to-elvis-dumervils-release/]Fax snafu leads to Elvis Dumervil’s release | ProFootballTalk[/url]

amazing

would love for NE to sign him to a big deal

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[quote=Chico23231;998979][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/15/fax-snafu-leads-to-elvis-dumervils-release/]Fax snafu leads to Elvis Dumervil’s release | ProFootballTalk[/url]

amazing

would love for NE to sign him to a big deal[/quote]

Dov Kleiman ‏@NFL_RealUpdates
Breaking News: Patriots have signed former #Falcons, #Jets DE John Abraham, as i said yesterday, they started to talk terms before his visit

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[quote=CultBrennan59;998994]Dov Kleiman ‏@NFL_RealUpdates
Breaking News: Patriots have signed former #Falcons, #Jets DE John Abraham, as i said yesterday, they started to talk terms before his visit[/quote]

That's a great signing for NE. If only we had the cap space for a pass rusher like him.

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[quote=SirLK26;999011]That's a great signing for NE. If only we had the cap space for a pass rusher like him.[/quote]

That and ran a 4-3

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If we were going to sign a pass rusher Dummervil would have to be the move, but there is no way that would happen.

Maybe if things were different. A DL with a rotation on Carriker, Jenkins, and Dummervil would fix the lack of a pass rush. Having Rak come off of the same side as Dummervil would be pretty amazing.

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and about 6-7mill more money than we have to spend. would have been nice though, for sure.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/03/18/nfl-having-trouble-scheduling-season-opener-in-baltimore-because-of-orioles-conflict/]NFL having trouble scheduling season opener in Baltimore because of Orioles conflict [updated][/url]

Thought this was kind of interesting. Personally I hope MLB sticks to their guns.

@AdamSchefter: Tuck Rule passed 29-1, with New England and Washington abstaining.

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Interesting we sustained when Shanny said recently in a presser that the rule was the worst in the NFL.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9075058/nfl-owners-end-tuck-rule-approve-helmet-penalty]NFL owners end tuck rule, approve helmet penalty - ESPN[/url]

Lot of new changes coming this year. I think most make sense.

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[quote=That Guy;999021]and about 6-7mill more money than we have to spend. would have been nice though, for sure.[/quote]

Thinking about it there are two things that are important here Shanny drafted the guy for one, but even if we had the cash would we spend it there or use it to take care of our own pass rusher in Rak next year?

My money would be on Rak if he didn't have all the same injury derailing his season the last two years. Now that may be in doubt, and I think with the FO not offering an extension now makes me believe that they are in the same boat to or just waiting to get the cash back next year.

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[quote=Chico23231;999659][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9075058/nfl-owners-end-tuck-rule-approve-helmet-penalty]NFL owners end tuck rule, approve helmet penalty - ESPN[/url]

Lot of new changes coming this year. I think most make sense.[/quote]

The helmet rule is a good idea on the surface but like Golic I believe that with the new rule being open to interpretation will cause dumb founded fans and players on crucial plays. There is just to much of that rule that can be screwed up. Emmit Smith who we all just love had a good interview on his view of it yesterday.

I am going to go back an watch some of the Morris highlight tapes on you tube to see how it will affect our runner. For a guy who never goes down I want to see how much I that is due to maybe that or just his own beastlyness.

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;999665]The helmet rule is a good idea on the surface but like Golic I believe that with the new rule being open to interpretation will cause dumb founded fans and players on crucial plays. There is just to much of that rule that can be screwed up. Emmit Smith who we all just love had a good interview on his view of it yesterday.

I am going to go back an watch some of the Morris highlight tapes on you tube to see how it will affect our runner. For a guy who never goes down I want to see how much I that is due to maybe that or just his own beastlyness.[/QUOTE]

I can't remember ALFMO really leading with the crown of the helmet. He gets low & absorbs blows but doesn't look to deliver a hit.

I think this rule will help him as a runner. D-players cant try to blow up RB's anymore. ALFMO is difficult to tackle straight up.

My main concern is with the refs and how they will decide to enforce this rule. I feel any big hit delivered by a RB now will lead to a penalty.

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Crap, they approved that stoopid helmet crown rule.

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Adam schefter said that the patriots and us decided to not vote on the tuck rule

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[quote=Gtothearry;999669]I can't remember ALFMO really leading with the crown of the helmet. He gets low & absorbs blows but doesn't look to deliver a hit.

I think this rule will help him as a runner. D-players cant try to blow up RB's anymore. ALFMO is difficult to tackle straight up.

My main concern is with the refs and how they will decide to enforce this rule. I feel any big hit delivered by a RB now will lead to a penalty.[/quote]

I agree 100% with your last point. Just another way for the refs to screw us ;)

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Garbage rule. Pure trash. Maybe the football is to heavy to carry as well, Nerf footballs are nice and safe. First time that penalty is called I'm unleash a mofo heard round the world.

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I really don't see this new helmet rule as being a big deal.

They're trying to eliminate blatant use of the helmet in the open field, which doesn't happen all that often.

I think I heard that there were 30 or so plays last year that would have been flagged under this rule. So in a total of 256 regular season games we're talking about 30 plays? It shouldn't have much of an impact at all. The league has to continue to protect players against head injuries, this rule is more window dressing than anything.