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[quote=mooby;1020858][url=http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/five-revelations-from-rolling-stones-aaron-hernandez-story-20130827]Aaron Hernandez: How a Potential NFL Great Couldn't Escape a Life of Violence | Culture News | Rolling Stone[/url]

I'm looking forward to reading this story. As far as the drug allegations go, I wonder if widespread drug/ped abuse is possible in the NFL. It seems like we hear a lot about illegal substances being used but players not being caught. Also if the part about Urban Meyer is true, that will be disappointing. With all the stories that come out of the NCAA (most of them negative) you gotta wonder how much covering up goes on. It's pretty sad that football culture dictates programs put winning a championship and/or making money over everything else.[/quote]

Looks like Rolling Stone is trying to sell magazines again...

First how are you almost cut when just got an extension, second Urban Meyer would not cover up a drive by shooting, just how ridiculous is that statement. I know Urban Meyer is a first class POS, but covering up a drive by? No.

Hernandez was a heavy user of angel dust? what? are they failed drug test or any evidence at all? And why angel dust, I mean ive know some people with substance abuse problems and they got help and got better. But ive never known anyone who said angel dust was their drug of choice. I could be believe maybe Hernandez experiemented, but a heavy user or addict to that? No way.

Rolling Stone needs to focus on music, they are really on a losing roll imo.

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[quote=Chico23231;1020869]Looks like Rolling Stone is trying to sell magazines again...

First how are you almost cut when just got an extension, second Urban Meyer would not cover up a drive by shooting, just how ridiculous is that statement. I know Urban Meyer is a first class POS, but covering up a drive by? No.

Hernandez was a heavy user of angel dust? what? are they failed drug test or any evidence at all? And why angel dust, I mean ive know some people with substance abuse problems and they got help and got better. But ive never known anyone who said angel dust was their drug of choice. I could be believe maybe Hernandez experiemented, but a heavy user or addict to that? No way.

Rolling Stone needs to focus on music, they are really on a losing roll imo.[/quote]

Considering the craziness of what we already know about the guy, I don't think anything is out of the question including him being on drugs or people covering up for him.

I mean shit, look at how deep the whole Penn St. deal went. Doesn't seem logical that something like that could happen but it did.

Rolling Stone has always focused on pop culture, social issues, politics, and of course music. They're not a one trick pony.

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Brian Dawkins on ESPN Sports Center on the decision to put a huge banner of Flacco on Sports Authority Field (Mile High):

"It's not Denver's fault that the Orioles said no to the Ravens (For the use of the stadium) but for people to say it's no big deal. IT'S A HUGE DEAL! I can't imagine, as an Eagles player or fan, that they put a Cowboys player on our stadium. Are you serious?!? For them to put a picture of the player that beat us in the playoff last season, reopen that wound? Are you serious, NFL?"

Really enjoyable to hear a player voice the same kind of loyalty and 'crazy' that we all feel about our team. Dawkins is one of the very few non-Redskins players that I have deep feelings for (like Mongo).

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[quote=RedskinRat;1020940]Brian Dawkins on ESPN Sports Center on the decision to put a huge banner of Flacco on Sports Authority Field (Mile High):

"It's not Denver's fault that the Orioles said no to the Ravens (For the use of the stadium) but for people to say it's no big deal. IT'S A HUGE DEAL! I can't imagine, as an Eagles player or fan, that they put a Cowboys player on our stadium. Are you serious?!? For them to put a picture of the player that beat us in the playoff last season, reopen that wound? Are you serious, NFL?"

Really enjoyable to hear a player voice the same kind of loyalty and 'crazy' that we all feel about our team. Dawkins is one of the very few non-Redskins players that I have deep feelings for (like Mongo).[/quote]

Stupid move by Denver. I'm sure they were pushed by whichever TV network or even the league to hang those banners, but I'd also hate to see a banner of the team that just beat is in the playoffs up on our home stadium. Imagine us hanging a Russell Wilson or worse, Dick Sherman banner up!

So much for trying to maintain a home field advantage, Denver.

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I'm sure some fans in Mile High own paintball markers with blue and orange ordinance.

Bring back game-day Shenanigans!

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Jets' 3rd-string QB Greg McIlroy sprained his knee in practice.


Mark Sanchez - hurt and is Mark Sanchez
Geno Smith - plays like he's hurt and can't read NFL defenses
Greg McIlroy - hurt

They just signed Graham Harrell to play in the 4th preseason game. Geno won't play because if Sanchez can't go Week 1, they'll need him to start! Matt Simms (son of Phil) will start the last preseason game and has a chance to beat out McIlroy.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1020956]I'm sure some fans in Mile High own paintball markers with blue and orange ordinance.

Bring back game-day Shenanigans![/quote]



They got one on the street level already.


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Does anyone else remember when Aaron Curry was specifically described as a "can't-miss" prospect?

His uneventful NFL career has ended.
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[quote=RedskinRat;1020940]Brian Dawkins on ESPN Sports Center on the decision to put a huge banner of Flacco on Sports Authority Field (Mile High):

"It's not Denver's fault that the Orioles said no to the Ravens (For the use of the stadium) but for people to say it's no big deal. IT'S A HUGE DEAL! I can't imagine, as an Eagles player or fan, that they put a Cowboys player on our stadium. Are you serious?!? For them to put a picture of the player that beat us in the playoff last season, reopen that wound? Are you serious, NFL?"

Really enjoyable to hear a player voice the same kind of loyalty and 'crazy' that we all feel about our team. Dawkins is one of the very few non-Redskins players that I have deep feelings for (like Mongo).[/quote]

Still can't believe a baseball team couldn't reschedule one game out of their 1000 game season to accommodate an opener. :doh:

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[quote=Chico23231;1020869]Looks like Rolling Stone is trying to sell magazines again...

First how are you almost cut when just got an extension, second Urban Meyer would not cover up a drive by shooting, just how ridiculous is that statement. I know Urban Meyer is a first class POS, but covering up a drive by? No.

Hernandez was a heavy user of angel dust? what? are they failed drug test or any evidence at all? And why angel dust, I mean ive know some people with substance abuse problems and they got help and got better. But ive never known anyone who said angel dust was their drug of choice. I could be believe maybe Hernandez experiemented, but a heavy user or addict to that? No way.

Rolling Stone needs to focus on music, they are really on a losing roll imo.[/quote]

Really compelling counter arguments there Chico.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1020991]Still can't believe a baseball team couldn't reschedule one game out of their 1000 game season to accommodate an opener. :doh:[/quote]

Especially the Orioles. :D

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[quote=SmootSmack;1020992]Really compelling counter arguments there Chico.[/quote]

Not really a counter argument, rather an opinion about an explotive article to sell magazines.

Lets just hope RS presents some facts and evidence.Just not buying Hernandez was going to be cut, he was a heavy user of angel dust, or Urban Meyer covered up a drive by shooting. Are you?

You think we might have heard a little of something about any of this other than RS magazine. Who were the writers?

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[quote=Chico23231;1020998]Not really a counter argument, rather an opinion about an explotive article to sell magazines.

Lets just hope RS presents some facts and evidence.Just not buying Hernandez was going to be cut, he was a heavy user of angel dust, or Urban Meyer covered up a drive by shooting. Are you?

You think we might have heard a little of something about any of this other than RS magazine. Who were the writers?[/quote]

I haven't read the story yet. And being close to being cut does surprise me. But Urban Meyer covering up a drive by shooting? Yeah I could see that. I don't know him well enough to think he wouldn't. But I do know him well enough to know he, like many others, in his position blurs the lines between right and wrong. And after what the Baylor basketball coach did, anything is possible

Heavy user of angel dust? Why would I have reason to be skeptical?

But I get it. You have an ingrained skepticism about the media so you have your doubts there's any legitimacy to any of this

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There's now some local speculation in Denver that the Ravens might get their own painted end zone in Denver's stadium. A PR guy from the NFL called into a sportstalk radio show in Denver and said they're treating it "like the Super Bowl" and fans will enjoy it, then hung up. :D

This is all idiotic. The Ravens are the "home" team in Denver. Of course, the Orioles are to blame but it's being handled poorly.

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[quote=Chico23231;1020998]Not really a counter argument, rather an opinion about an explotive article to sell magazines.

Lets just hope RS presents some facts and evidence.Just not buying Hernandez was going to be cut, he was a heavy user of angel dust, or Urban Meyer covered up a drive by shooting. Are you?

You think we might have heard a little of something about any of this other than RS magazine. Who were the writers?[/quote]

Well, RS is in the biz of selling magazines so...

Read the article for yourself and see what you think.

[url=http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-gangster-in-the-huddle]Aaron Hernandez: Patriots Tight End Violent Evolution | Rolling Stone[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;1020999]I haven't read the story yet. And being close to being cut does surprise me. But Urban Meyer covering up a drive by shooting? Yeah I could see that. I don't know him well enough to think he wouldn't. But I do know him well enough to know he, like many others, in his position blurs the lines between right and wrong. And after what the Baylor basketball coach did, anything is possible

Heavy user of angel dust? Why would I have reason to be skeptical?

But I get it. You have an ingrained skepticism about the media so you have your doubts there's any legitimacy to any of this[/quote]

Like I said, not a fan of Urban, but Im gonna give him the benefit. Covering up a drive by shooting, thats pretty low.

Heavy user of angel dust, its just that you typically dont find the a user abusing over and over consistently. You really dont want too. And its just the rarity of finding it. Ill be surprised, but hey get your sherm on.

No ingrained sketicism about the media, Im just considering all angles and see a motive for RS. I would again like to see who actually wrote it as well.

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Wow. Talk about no respect. Our backfield of Morris, Young & Helu rated as 19th in the league.

[url=http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/28/best-nfl-backfields-adrian-peterson-ray-rice/?sct=nfl_t12_a1]Ray Rice-Bernard Pierce duo headlines list of NFL's best backfields | Audibles - SI.com[/url]

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JR, I'd be happy with being ranked 33rd, as it really doesn't matter.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1021009]Wow. Talk about no respect. Our backfield of Morris, Young & Helu rated as 19th in the league.

[url=http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/28/best-nfl-backfields-adrian-peterson-ray-rice/?sct=nfl_t12_a1]Ray Rice-Bernard Pierce duo headlines list of NFL's best backfields | Audibles - SI.com[/url][/quote]

Even if Grossman were our starter, we'd rank higher than that.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1021013]JR, I'd be happy with being ranked 33rd, as it really doesn't matter.[/quote]

True enough. Still, it just goes to show how little some of the talking heads know about the Skins. It really isn't[I] just [/I]the RGIII show. This is a deep team.

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[quote=Mattyk;1021007]Well, RS is in the biz of selling magazines so...

Read the article for yourself and see what you think.

[url=http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-gangster-in-the-huddle]Aaron Hernandez: Patriots Tight End Violent Evolution | Rolling Stone[/url][/quote]

Thats Matty, Ill read it tonight.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1021009]Wow. Talk about no respect. Our backfield of Morris, Young & Helu rated as 19th in the league.

[url=http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/28/best-nfl-backfields-adrian-peterson-ray-rice/?sct=nfl_t12_a1]Ray Rice-Bernard Pierce duo headlines list of NFL's best backfields | Audibles - SI.com[/url][/quote]

Totally ridiculous.

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Anyone remember Aaron Curry? Was supposed to be the for sure great linebacker... Retired at 27.

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[quote=Chico23231;1020869]Looks like Rolling Stone is trying to sell magazines again...

First how are you almost cut when just got an extension, second Urban Meyer would not cover up a drive by shooting, just how ridiculous is that statement. I know Urban Meyer is a first class POS, but covering up a drive by? No.

Hernandez was a heavy user of angel dust? what? are they failed drug test or any evidence at all? And why angel dust, I mean ive know some people with substance abuse problems and they got help and got better. But ive never known anyone who said angel dust was their drug of choice. I could be believe maybe Hernandez experiemented, but a heavy user or addict to that? No way.

Rolling Stone needs to focus on music, they are really on a losing roll imo.[/quote]

Idk, doesn't seem that hard to believe to me. If he knew how to get past the drug testing who's to know exactly what he was doing. PCP does seem like an oddly specific drug to mention, but I'll wait until I read the whole article to know how they reached that conclusion.

And as far as the whole "close to being cut" argument goes, well I can remember at least one player who was recently here who got a huge extension and was traded the following offseason. It's not unreasonable to believe they gave him the extension thinking he'd earn it as long as he stayed out of major trouble, but looking at what happened I think once they found out the seriousness of the charges it was pretty easy to cut him.

And as far as the Urban Meyer thing goes, it could've been pretty easy for him to make the decision to help cover it up if he didn't know all the details, or if he thought Hernandez's involvement was minimal. We hear articles every day about major NCAA programs violating rules and covering things up, and I have little doubt that at a major program like Florida taking care of the football team is of pretty high priority, because that's probably the breadwinner for the entire program.

I'm not going to call him guilty now but with everything we know it's not hard to see these points as conceivable given the circumstances.

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Anyone remember Aaron Curry? Was supposed to be the for sure great linebacker... Retired at 27.[/quote]

Yeah, I remember the so-called "safest pick in the draft." Surely he'll find some way to put to use the 34 million guaranteed he earned in the NFL.

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[quote=Mattyk;1021021]Totally ridiculous.[/quote]

Speaking of no respect and totally ridiculous, I liked this statement by Revis about Richard Sherman: [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000235114/article/darrelle-revis-to-richard-sherman-show-some-respect]Darrelle Revis to Richard Sherman: Show some respect - NFL.com[/url].

Revis has to come back healthy to show he's still the best cover man, but that aside, I complete agree that the guys in the league who show little respect for those who came before them (nod to Darrell Green here) need to STFU. I am with Revis on this one.

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[quote=calia;1021028]Speaking of no respect and totally ridiculous, I liked this statement by Revis about Richard Sherman: [url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000235114/article/darrelle-revis-to-richard-sherman-show-some-respect]Darrelle Revis to Richard Sherman: Show some respect - NFL.com[/url].

Revis has to come back healthy to show he's still the best cover man, but that aside, I complete agree that the guys in the league who show little respect for those who came before them (nod to Darrell Green here) need to STFU. I am with Revis on this one.[/quote]

Love this quote from that article:

[quote]As you read this, Sherman is staring in his bathroom mirror, rehearsing his response. Skip Bayless is walking in circles, [B]rambling incoherently.[/B](So, what else is new? :))[/quote]

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Yeah. that was pretty awesome. If you want another worthwhile read, whenever we're feeling tortured by our Superbowl drought, you could be a Bills fan (this is hilarious): [url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjkiebus/reasons-being-a-buffalo-bills-fan-is-more-painful-than-ch]32 Reasons Being A Buffalo Bills Fan Is More Painful Than Childbirth[/url]

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aaron curry - amazing he is washed out so early. def remember him being labeled the safest pick in the draft. just amazing.

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[quote=calia;1021031]Yeah. that was pretty awesome. If you want another worthwhile read, whenever we're feeling tortured by our Superbowl drought, you could be a Bills fan (this is hilarious): [url=http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjkiebus/reasons-being-a-buffalo-bills-fan-is-more-painful-than-ch]32 Reasons Being A Buffalo Bills Fan Is More Painful Than Childbirth[/url][/quote]

:lol: That was awesome.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000235051/article/peyton-manning-asks-denver-broncos-fans-for-quiet]Peyton Manning asks Denver Broncos fans for quiet - NFL.com[/url]

I was looking at overthecap, and the Raiders cap spending this year is about 69 million but their dead cap money is 50 million. That is absolutely crazy outta whack

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Is this the only week in the whole NFL season where all 32 teams play on the same day and time?

Does anyone know if the referees use this game as a weeding out game, in other words since this is the most refs needed at any point during the season does the league use this preseason game specifically as a make or break game for setting season lineups?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1021079]I was looking at overthecap, and the Raiders cap spending this year is about 69 million but their dead cap money is 50 million. That is absolutely crazy outta whack[/quote]

It's insane how much they're paying for players no longer on their roster, or even playing football any more. 38% of their salary cap is going to players not playing. They're fielding a team with $78 million and everyone else (except for us, F...Mara) can spend up to $123 million.

Rolonda McClain is costing them $11million against the cap alone.

The team has no talent and no money.

Interesting article though...they'll be in good shape next year...like us! The new coach has cleaned house, returning only 10 of 22 starters from last year. Some notable departures: Richard Seymour, Carson Palmer, Tommy Kelly, Michael Huff, Matt Shaughnessy, Desmond Bryant, Phillip Wheeler, Dave Tollefson, Shane Lechler and Darrius Heyward-Bey.



[url=http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/4/6/4191688/oakland-raiders-take-major-dead-money-now-for-major-cap-space-in-2014]Raiders take major dead money now for major cap space in 2014 - Silver And Black Pride[/url]

Next offseason is going to be the Bruce Allen and the Ghost of Al Davis show...big spending. Look how well we've done with the $36 million cap hit. We built a Super Bowl contender at that huge disadvantage and next year we'll have $18 million extra to spend over the past two years. We're going to really solidify this team. We'll be able to afford some of the top FAs.

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Good point on the Jets by Ross Tucker:

Ross Tucker ‏@RossTuckerNFL 29m
It was "important" for Sanchez to play in 4Q w/ 2nd string but not for Geno to get a series or two w/ starters tonight?

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[url=http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/399110-jones-i-have-the-brain-of-a-40-year-old]Jones: I have the brain of a 40-year-old[/url]

but the football instincts of 2 year old

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Introducing the "knucklepunt".

Antawn Randel El would be in trouble.

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Good job blowing your SECRET weapon, Andy. You should never have said a word...just do it in a crucial situation, preferably not November 25.

I saw we put Santana back for punts against SF. He can catch anything.

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[quote=Chico23231;1021146][url=http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/399110-jones-i-have-the-brain-of-a-40-year-old]Jones: I have the brain of a 40-year-old[/url]

but the football instincts of 2 year old[/quote]

And the looks of the crypt keeper

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1021009]Wow. Talk about no respect. Our backfield of Morris, Young & Helu rated as 19th in the league.

[url=http://nfl.si.com/2013/08/28/best-nfl-backfields-adrian-peterson-ray-rice/?sct=nfl_t12_a1]Ray Rice-Bernard Pierce duo headlines list of NFL's best backfields | Audibles - SI.com[/url][/quote]



:laughing2 :laughing-

That's pretty much all you can do with a list like that.

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According to ESPN, the NFL and players have settled on the concussion lawsuits for 765 million. Thats not all for the players, some will go to medical research.

An article from NFL.com

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000235494/article/settlement-reached-in-nfl-concussion-lawsuit]NFL, ex-players reach settlement agreement in concussion suit - NFL.com[/url]