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[quote=Mattyk;1069420]You mean it wasn't Danny's fault? Amazing.[/quote]

lol. This maybe the one move that people will tie to Snyder that will work, at least I'm hoping, lol.

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Check out the chart about 3/4 of the way down on D. Jax receptions of over 20 yards and the outcomes of the drives they occurred on.. Spoiler alert, it's really, REALLY good..

[url=http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/red_zone/Replacing-DeSean-Jacksons-explosive-plays-will-be-nearly-impossible-for-the-2014-Eagles.html]Replacing DeSean Jackson's explosive plays will be nearly impossible for the 2014 Eagles[/url]

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[quote=Paintrain;1069499]Check out the chart about 3/4 of the way down on D. Jax receptions of over 20 yards and the outcomes of the drives they occurred on.. Spoiler alert, it's really, REALLY good..

[url=http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/red_zone/Replacing-DeSean-Jacksons-explosive-plays-will-be-nearly-impossible-for-the-2014-Eagles.html]Replacing DeSean Jackson's explosive plays will be nearly impossible for the 2014 Eagles[/url][/quote]

Thanks, good info.

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The Eagles fans comments below that story are pretty amusing.

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Chip Kelly spoke about it today, basically said - it was my call that he doesn't fit in this offense, and the ownership said - it's Kelly's call.

[url]http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/eagles-say-jackson-release-was-football-decision[/url]

This reeks of a hard headed coach, that thinks he's better than the rest of the NFL making what any normal team would call a bonehead move.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1069656]Chip Kelly spoke about it today, basically said - it was my call that he doesn't fit in this offense, and the ownership said - it's Kelly's call.

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/eagles-say-jackson-release-was-football-decision]Eagles say Jackson release was "a football decision" | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

This reeks of a hard headed coach, that thinks he's better than the rest of the NFL making what any normal team would call a bonehead move.[/quote]

Yeah, when you pull off a movie like this you better be right going forward. The year they had last year while successful hardly qualifies as an established NFL track record. After all if double digit wins in year 1 did count as a track record Tony Sparano would still be coaching the Miami Dolphins.

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[B]If[/B] our FO and staff can keep this kids head....right, we pulled off a Major upset deal on a Talented kid and difference maker.
Dealt a rough blow to a division foe as well. It does not get any better.
Lets see the opposing D stack the box......

[QUOTE=Hog1;1069673][B]If[/B] our FO and staff can keep this kids head....right, we pulled off a Major upset deal on a Talented kid and difference maker.

Dealt a rough blow to a division foe as well. It does not get any better.

Lets see the opposing D stack the box......[/QUOTE]


Exactly - and lets see if Morris is better than McCoy this year....when teams playing the birds do stack the box.

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I love how Eagles fans are saying both Macklin and Racist Cooper are better than D Jax. Macklin done zero in his career; zilch and Cooper is a #2 at very best.

Any Eagles fan that says that is a dumb asshole. 😃

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[quote=Chico23231;1069706]I love how Eagles fans are saying both Macklin and Racist Cooper are better than D Jax. Macklin done zero in his career; zilch and Cooper is a #2 at very best.[/quote]

That reminds me
[IMG]http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/saint-racist-murderer-gators-joke-meme.png[/IMG]
All they need is to get Pouncey in the picture and add bully :D

But yeah, as I said before the funniest thing has been after initial silence being used as evidence against Jacksons character that no less than 4 former Eagle teammates have gone on the record to vouch for him. (Vick, Foles, McCoy, Coleman). That doesn't even count the people that knew him dating back to high school going on record. Now granted its very likely he's not a saint but if the team only brought in choir boys, well I'd hate to think what the final result would be.

At the very least its starting to look more and more like Kelly's decision to cut him, essentially for being a bad influence in the locker room, is looking more and more like a decision that was made with a combination of impulse and ego.

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[quote=punch it in;1069703]Exactly - and lets see if Morris is better than McCoy this year....when teams playing the birds do stack the box.[/quote]

Let's not go crazy. I like Morris, but McCoy is an amazing athlete in a different style and big play ability than Morris.

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[quote=punch it in;1069709]Any Eagles fan that says that is a dumb asshole. 😃[/quote]
Well.....they are Eagles fans.
Is that problematic?

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kelly said it was his decision to cut him in one of his interviews that was linked here somewhere... not that anyone really thought otherwise.

[QUOTE=Hog1;1069771]Well.....they are Eagles fans.
Is that problematic?[/QUOTE]


Good point....

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[url=http://www.givemesport.com/457698-desean-jackson-gets-rejected-by-pop-star-rihanna]DeSean Jackson gets rejected by pop star Rihanna[/url]

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Everybody loved him? Methinks Mr. Jackson fooleth himself.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/7879/desean-jackson-everybody-loved-me]DeSean Jackson: Everybody loved me in Philadelphia Eagles locker room - ESPN[/url]

I admire the guy's talent and am [I]really[/I] happy we picked him up. At the same time, he's clearly from a different world than me and I am betting he rubs a lot of folks the wrong way. With that said, he has a ton of talent and that goes a long way towards making people tolerate your antics. Just wonder, in a locker room of dedicated guys - RGIII being chief among them, if he will be willing to put in the time. I have seen him sulk and whine in the past. Even if talented, not sure that will play well on team hungry to redeem itself.

RGIII goes hard, first in last out, in practice ... will DeSean? or will it simply be:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM]Original Allen Iverson Practice Rant - YouTube[/ame]

I will say this, if DJAx is all growed up and got his mind right, he and Garcon make one of the deadliest one-two punches in the league.

Remember three years ago when our one-two punch was Gaffney/Moss? Oh, how times change:
2011 Gaffney (68 rec./947 yards), Moss (59/796), Stallworth (22/309), Hankerson (13/173), Anderson (7/70);

2014 Garcon, DJax, Roberts, Moss, Hankerson, Robinson, Grant.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1072846]Everybody loved him? Methinks Mr. Jackson fooleth himself.

[URL="http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/7879/desean-jackson-everybody-loved-me"]DeSean Jackson: Everybody loved me in Philadelphia Eagles locker room - ESPN[/URL]

I admire the guys talent. At the same time, he's clearly from a different world than me and I am betting he rubs a lot of folks the wrong way. With that said, he has a ton of talent and that goes a long way towards making people tolerate your antics. Just wonder, in a locker room of dedicated guys - RGIII being chief among them, if he will be willing to put in the time.

RGIII goes hard, first in last out, in practice ... will DeSean? or will it simply be:

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM"]Original Allen Iverson Practice Rant - YouTube[/URL][/quote]

Pro Bowlers don't need practice .... do they ????

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Love me some Iverson.

Probably my all-time favorite NBA player. A man among boys, except when it came to practice.

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One thing that no one can deny out loud - respect for his football skills.

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Another voice from inside the Eagles locker room.

Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 46m
Spoke with Eagles asst. coaches today. Bob Bicknell emphasized he did not have issue with DeSean, that Jackson did everything asked of him

I hope, for once, we actually succeeded in stealing gold from the enemy!

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Moved to other thread.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1072846]Everybody loved him? Methinks Mr. Jackson fooleth himself.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/7879/desean-jackson-everybody-loved-me]DeSean Jackson: Everybody loved me in Philadelphia Eagles locker room - ESPN[/url]

I admire the guy's talent and am [I]really[/I] happy we picked him up. At the same time, he's clearly from a different world than me and I am betting he rubs a lot of folks the wrong way. With that said, he has a ton of talent and that goes a long way towards making people tolerate your antics. Just wonder, in a locker room of dedicated guys - RGIII being chief among them, if he will be willing to put in the time. I have seen him sulk and whine in the past.[B] Even if talented, not sure that will play well on team hungry to redeem itself.[/B]

RGIII goes hard, first in last out, in practice ... will DeSean? or will it simply be:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM]Original Allen Iverson Practice Rant - YouTube[/url]

I will say this, if DJAx is all growed up and got his mind right, he and Garcon make one of the deadliest one-two punches in the league.

Remember three years ago when our one-two punch was Gaffney/Moss? Oh, how times change:
2011 Gaffney (68 rec./947 yards), Moss (59/796), Stallworth (22/309), Hankerson (13/173), Anderson (7/70);

2014 Garcon, DJax, Roberts, Moss, Hankerson, Robinson, Grant.[/quote]

Precisely why I argued against the DJax signing.

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If having an ego is a crime in pro sports today.....
They're are a lot death row SOBs around.

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What makes people equate Iverson with DJax? hmmm let me guess. NBA and NFL are different.

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^^ but Iverson's and DJax's reputation for an aversion to practice is the same.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1074151]^^ but Iverson's and DJax's reputation for an aversion to practice is the same.[/quote]



You are making that up, this is not Benghazi. Players and coaches say DJax was a good citizen. Mr. O'Reilly say hi to the mistress and the wifey,

I don't recall Jackson ever coming out publicly against practice like Iverson did.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1074168]You are making that up, this is not Benghazi. Players and coaches say DJax was a good citizen. Mr. O'Reilly say hi to the mistress and the wifey,[/quote]
Coaches love him , players love him.....everybody loved him ,so why is he now a Redskin ?

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[quote=Giantone;1074171]Coaches love him , players love him.....everybody loved him ,so why is he now a Redskin ?[/quote]

Chip Kelly didnt love him

God, I cant believe the great price we got D Jax. Its stealing. We committed a crime with that contract

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1074171]Coaches love him , players love him.....everybody loved him ,so why is he now a Redskin ?[/QUOTE]


Money
Edit: and Chip Kellys ego

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[quote=Giantone;1074171]Coaches love him , players love him.....everybody loved him ,so why is he now a Redskin ?[/quote]

A high ego college coach, used to having college kids depend on his every word, couldn't stand a nonconforming attitude in his locker room. Not the first time a new NFL HC made a dumb decision on a star player, but it is up there with Spurrier's bringing in his college qb's.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1074233]A high ego college coach, used to having college kids depend on his every word, couldn't stand a nonconforming attitude in his locker room. Not the first time a new NFL HC made a dumb decision on a star player, but it is up there with Spurrier's bringing in his college qb's.[/quote]

So , not everyone loved him .To me it's some of the players now don't want to listen to authority ,coaches ,owners .My question to you if he won't listen Chip Kelly ,why will he listen to coach Gruden

[QUOTE=Giantone;1074250]So , not everyone loved him .To me it's some of the players now don't want to listen to authority ,coaches ,owners .My question to you if he won't listen Chip Kelly ,why will he listen to coach Gruden[/QUOTE]
There was a good article on the personalities involved a while back. Jackson has been a high performer under Reid and Kelly so my question is why wouldn't he be under Gruden? To answer your question, I don't think Jackson respected Kelly like the media that fawns over Kelly, he saw him as a college coach who doesn't understand the way the NFL does things(partly my opinion partly from the aforementioned article). So maybe Jackson gave lip for coming in on Tuesdays when every other team was off, or stuff like that, but on the field he performed. I also think Gruden sought out Jackson, much like Reid did. and for a guy who wants his importance to be recognized, that builds trust and relationship, something Kelly by most accounts did not have with him.

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[quote=Giantone;1074250]So , not everyone loved him .To me it's some of the players now don't want to listen to authority ,coaches ,owners .My question to you if he won't listen Chip Kelly ,why will he listen to coach Gruden[/quote]

If he doesnt listen to the tune of 82 receptions for 1332 yards and 9 TD's, I doubt most Redskins fans will care. Of course those stats means he was listening since he had to learn a brand new and pretty complicated offense in one offseason.

I have said it before and will say it again, Chip Kelly believes that as long as he has the right QB, that he can put in anyone into his offense and get close to those stats. Chip thinks its about his offense, not the talent playing in it. So why would he pay the money that DeSean was signed to prior to his arrival in Philly?

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2100960-redskins-desean-jackson-trolls-lebron-james-on-instagram]Redskins' DeSean Jackson Trolls LeBron James on Instagram | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1074168]You are making that up, this is not Benghazi. Players and coaches say DJax was a good citizen. [/quote]

You asked why people equate DJax and Iverson. There was more than one report alleging that DJax was not a fan of practice and not the "student of his craft" that some others were. The article I particularly remember said that Maclin, who apparently has a reputation for a solid work ethic, was no fan of DJax. Certainly, there were plenty of reports about DJax dogging it when he was up for contract renewal a couple years ago.

Is any of it true? I have no clue. I haven't heard any complaints from Skins players so maybe it was all part of the spin some folks over at Eagle Land trying to sell. You don't believe it. Fine. I hope you're right. To date, it does not appear to be a problem.

[quote=Gary84Clark;1074168]Mr. O'Reilly say hi to the mistress and the wifey[/quote]

Finally, don't ever again imply or otherwise allege I am a racist or blatant hypocrite. I am not "making it up" as you assert, but, rather, am making the comparison based on my recollection of various articles I have read on DJax over the years. Not much I can do but hit the ignore button on you but it is incredibly offensive to me for you to start down that road.

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Chip Kelly will find out. NFL production is fleeting. You can get a player with Jackson's physical attributes but for one reason or another this player will never be as productive. Every year there is a new speed demon. We found a productive player keep him. A Jackson in hand is worth more than a potential Jackson replacement until the replacement makes Coughlin's face turn red.

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they had a philly sports radio talking head on the local radio here and he said by all accounts d jax was liked and did what he was told to do.

he did say that chip kelly required all of his wide receivers to know the playbook for each WR position and d jax showed up to camp not bothering to have studied them and he was bumped down the depth chart for a few days until d jax got up to speed.

what happened in philly is in the past. d jax' contract is signed. if we dont like him after 2 years, we can easily divorce.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1074278]You asked why people equate DJax and Iverson. There was more than one report alleging that DJax was not a fan of practice and not the "student of his craft" that some others were. The article I particularly remember said that Maclin, who apparently has a reputation for a solid work ethic, was no fan of DJax. Certainly, there were plenty of reports about DJax dogging it when he was up for contract renewal a couple years ago.

Is any of it true? I have no clue. I haven't heard any complaints from Skins players so maybe it was all part of the spin some folks over at Eagle Land trying to sell. You don't believe it. Fine. I hope you're right. To date, it does not appear to be a problem.

Finally, don't ever again imply or otherwise allege I am a racist or blatant hypocrite. I am not "making it up" as you assert, but, rather, am making the comparison based on my recollection of various articles I have read on DJax over the years. Not much I can do but hit the ignore button on you but it is incredibly offensive to me for you to start down that road.[/quote]



I apologize, I was listening to Ludacris getting it in on Bill O'Reilly. I like the conservative argument style. I used to use that technique in college to score women. Say what you think they want to hear, truth be damned.