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I answered my own question -- we get nothing for Breeland because he wasn't signed by anyone as of May 8: [url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/deadline-passes-without-contract-offer-between-redskins-and-bashaud-breeland[/url]

And we didn't do a tender (I wonder why) by which we could get a compensatory pick.

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[quote=calia;1194392]I answered my own question -- we get nothing for Breeland because he wasn't signed by anyone as of May 8: [url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/deadline-passes-without-contract-offer-between-redskins-and-bashaud-breeland[/url]

[B]And we didn't do a tender (I wonder why)[/B] by which we could get a compensatory pick.[/quote]

I guess it means the concerns about his foot infection are serious and could linger for some while...
Sucks for him, and for us, having him back for 1M would have been one hell of a bargain, even with every body expecting 3rd round pick Moreau to step it up.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1194395]I guess it means the concerns about his foot infection are serious and could linger for some while...
Sucks for him, and for us, having him back for 1M would have been one hell of a bargain, even with every body expecting 3rd round pick Moreau to step it up.[/quote]

I don't think they wanted him back at any price.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1194402]I don't think they wanted him back at any price.[/quote]

They had to like him a bit, they started him outside over Fuller.
I understand not wanting to pay him 10M/y when you think you have a solution with Moreau/Dunbar, and you're already spending 15M/y on Norman, but you're telling if they knew he'd be healthy before the season starts, they wouldn't want him for 1M ?

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Straight out of rumor central:

Was listening to WTOP on the way home from work today and they were reporting Scott Campbell is leaving the Redskins.

Unfortunately after searching WTOP and other credible sources the only link I can find comes from the rag of PFT, which may be where WTOP got it from.

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/09/washington-parts-ways-with-scott-campbell/[/url]

Until I see another source reporting it I'm not taking it as fact... yet.

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[quote=mooby;1194406]Straight out of rumor central:

Was listening to WTOP on the way home from work today and they were reporting Scott Campbell is leaving the Redskins.

Unfortunately after searching WTOP and other credible sources the only link I can find comes from the rag of PFT, which may be where WTOP got it from.

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/09/washington-parts-ways-with-scott-campbell/[/url]

Until I see another source reporting it I'm not taking it as fact... yet.[/quote]

Sounds like it was in the works for a while:

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Kyle Smith took over that role this year. Had heard a little while back that Scott was considering leaving after this draft. So this isn't a big surprise. role had changed; still had input... Had been with organization since 2001. [url]https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/994231362210226178[/url] …


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Check that: Took over that role last June for this year. so was in charge of it for this draft. Brings energy/passion among other attributes to the job. Had a good draft too. SC a good guy; scouts not always heard. recall him being a big Moses fan.

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Scott Campbell didn’t do anything for me, I like what Kyle Smith did this year and might have his hand in last year’s draft also.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1194410]Scott Campbell didn’t do anything for me, I like what Kyle Smith did this year and might have his hand in last year’s draft also.[/quote]

What exactly did Kyle Smith do this year? Specifics please.

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[url=http://www.redskins.com/team/staff/scott-campbell/4f1e3b8d-55f6-4a22-9363-34308f2515ce]Washington Redskins: Scott Campbell[/url]

[url=http://www.redskins.com/team/staff/kyle-smith/39f7369a-1aee-48a0-b3b1-73951398da88]Washington Redskins: Kyle Smith[/url]


Without knowing full details, it's tough to gauge what kind of impact Scott has on Redskins scouting team; being in executive position usually means s/he makes final decision based on what his/her team come up (at least it is in business world). Redskins profile stated Kyle became director of scouting for college in last year and so far the drafts [B]seems[/B] to be good so far. I don't think I am too concerned about this change

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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2017/06/22/meet-kyle-smith-the-new-and-boring-redskins-director-of-college-scouting/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e2a70b7481fd[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1194416][url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2017/06/22/meet-kyle-smith-the-new-and-boring-redskins-director-of-college-scouting/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e2a70b7481fd[/url][/quote]

“I just scout and work out.

I like this guy already

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Not even sure how Campbell survived all those years working for Snyder. He should be given a medal just for that.

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At first I had him confused with Eric Schaffer and panicked.

Then I realized who Campbell was and was significantly relieved. As to Campbell, not seeing a big loss. Got the feeling, and I may be way off, that he always stuck me as a JAG of scouting.

In the bio provided his big finds are Moses, T. Murphy, S. Long, Scherff, & Crowder. He may be the guy for the first three but pretty sure it was McCloughan on Scherff and Crowder.

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Kyle Smith ran the 2018 draft.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/losing-sean-mcvay-might-have-put-wheels-motion-redskins-keep-kyle-smith[/url]

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14 signed UDFAs and 46 tryouts rookies at Redskin Park this weekend. Hopefully they can find 2 or 3 more sleepers.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/article-1/Redskins-Hosting-46-Tryout-Players-For-2018-Rookie-Minicamp/00b04ee0-f1a7-4bfb-9565-b02d3c6a3182]Redskins Hosting 46 Tryout Players For 2018 Rookie Minicamp[/url]

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#Redskins' LG Arie Kouandjio suffers apparent torn quad injury, 2018 season in jeopardy, per source [url]https://buff.ly/2rCPwup[/url]

Welp there goes that LG option

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1194473]#Redskins' LG Arie Kouandjio suffers apparent torn quad injury, 2018 season in jeopardy, per source [url]https://buff.ly/2rCPwup[/url]

Welp there goes that LG option[/QUOTE]Well I suppose we can pencil Lauvao as starter at LG now unless we uncovered a UFA gem later in preseason

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Poor planning.

Redskins put themselves in this position.

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Yikes, already...

I hope they make a move at LG.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1194473]#Redskins' LG Arie Kouandjio suffers apparent torn quad injury, 2018 season in jeopardy, per source [url]https://buff.ly/2rCPwup[/url]



Welp there goes that LG option[/QUOTE]



lol of course

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Is there not anyone to go get in FA??

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[quote=MTK;1194479]lol of course[/quote]

Man we have the most fucking injuries ever, camp hasn't even started and we already lose a guy wtf

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There are definitely comparable players to Arie Kouandjio available currently in free agency. Keep in mind this is us losing a replacement-level player. No impact on our 2018 season. Vegas will not adjust any of our odds one iota because of this.

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Are there any good LG that might be available for trade?

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Time to watch Shawn Lauvao perform like the worst LG in the league....again. Kujo had the best chance to unseat him and start.

Welp, maybe one of our 5, 6, 7?, udfa interior olineman can step up.

Watching the post june cut list, but we could have easily gotten a serviceable vet guard to come in provide a presence in free agency.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194484]Time to watch Shawn Lauvao perform like the worst LG in the league....again. Kujo had the best chance to unseat him and start.

Welp, maybe one of our 5, 6, 7?, udfa interior olineman can step up.

Watching the post june cut list, but we could have easily gotten a serviceable vet guard to come in provide a presence in free agency.[/quote]

I bet TY can beat out Lauvao

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[quote=Chico23231;1194476]Poor planning.

Redskins put themselves in this position.[/quote]

You made it sound like Redskins were supposed to solve everything in one off season. It's like asking president to solve all issues within one year...

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;1194486]You made it sound like Redskins were supposed to solve everything in one off season. [B]It's like asking president to solve all issues within one year...[/[/B]QUOTE]

#Bigly

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Way too much crying over the LG in May. Of all the positions in the NFL this has to be one of the most dime a dozen guys. Sure there are some elites, but we weren't paying any elite guard when we have 2 elite and 2 strong players on the line already. Our line, when TW and Scherff are healthy is dominant, just look at the running stats behind those guys. Not losing any gray hairs to a weaker guard next to TW, none, zero, zilch.

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he has been below average for at least the last 2 seasons. again, this is piss poor managing

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1194488]Way too much crying over the LG in May. Of all the positions in the NFL this has to be one of the most dime a dozen guys. Sure there are some elites, but we weren't paying any elite guard when we have 2 elite and 2 strong players on the line already. Our line, when TW and Scherff are healthy is dominant, just look at the running stats behind those guys. Not losing any gray hairs to a weaker guard next to TW, none, zero, zilch.[/quote]

What about weaker guard next to a 2nd year rookie C who really wasn't great last year?

Our Oline has been collapsed in both run and pass blocking from the defense lining up over the LG and C on a consistent basis for the last 2 years.

Im saying its a problem

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What ever will we do without Arie Kouandjio??

[IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/QX7cJ6tnVFgNW/giphy.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1194483]Are there any good LG that might be available for trade?[/quote]

Joe Berger just retired but Jahri Evans G and Brian Schwenke C still are available and have solid PFF grades, so I'm sure we could find solid 1 year solutions via FA, do not see the need to give value away.

I'm getting a bit scared they're confortable with Lauvao starting... I sure hope either Nsekhe or Sean Welsh steals the starting job!

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Its not Kujo..its more putting up with Lauvao.

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[quote=Chico23231;1194494]Its not Kujo..its more putting up with Lauvao.[/quote]

You think there's a difference? Why?

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[quote=GridIron26;1194486]You made it sound like Redskins were supposed to solve everything in one off season. It's like asking president to solve all issues within one year...[/quote]

Somebody says exactly that every off-season. It's not you every time is it?

No, I don't think every issue can be solved every off-season but this particular problem has been present at least several years. Has fixing LG been last on the list for the last three years in a row? If so, please don't tell me because I still have fond memories of HOF'er Russ Grimm.

As for the President, he could at least get rid of that orange caterpillar on his head, couldn't he?

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Wow. The injury bug bites early. And I imagine it will bite often, given our luck.

At least it's early enough to get someone else. Better now than late preseason.

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[quote=Schneed10;1194495]You think there's a difference? Why?[/quote]

Kujo play last year gave us some hope....not that is was outstanding, but a couple games he was decent.

With S.L., there is no unknown. Big injury history and bad play. He's done imo.

Forget where...probably Keim...had blurb about Kujo future saying "he was gonna be brought back and given a chance at LG". So at least the Skins were saying they liked what saw enough to bring him back...S.L. was the emergency signing after the draft....

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[quote=Chico23231;1194490]What about weaker guard next to a 2nd year rookie C who really wasn't great last year?

Our Oline has been collapsed in both run and pass blocking from the defense lining up over the LG and C on a consistent basis for the last 2 years.

Im saying its a problem[/quote]

I disagree.

1) how do you have a 2nd year rookie?

2) Here is PFF's ranking in week 5 last year before the injuries:
[quote][B]5. WASHINGTON REDSKINS[/B]
Average offensive lineman grade: 71.6
Even though LT Trent Williams is not playing at the level that he did last season when he was the best offensive tackle in football, [B]no one is playing well below average on a line that does not seem to have a weak link at this point.[/B] The unit ranks eighth in pass-blocking efficiency with a rating of 81.1, allowing just four sacks on the season, tied for the sixth-fewest.[B] In addition, they have been among the best run-blocking units as well, which is highlighted by the fact that their runners get 2.17 yards before contact, fourth-most in the league.[/B][/quote]
Here is our ranking after the injuries:
[quote]21. WASHINGTON REDSKINS
Total pressures surrendered: 181
Best player: Brandon Scherff
Combinations used: 27

While Washington fielded two elite offensive linemen to start the season in left tackle Trent Williams and right guard Brandon Scherff, both of them struggled to stay on the field in 2017. As a matter of fact, the entire Washington line was marred by injuries a season ago [B]as a whopping 11 offensive linemen played at least 140 snaps for the Redskins in 2017[/B]. The injuries had their impact and the Washington offensive line never really got into rhythm over the season. [B]Redskins running backs averaged just 1.29 yards before contact, the fifth-fewest in the NFL while the unit allowed 25 sacks on the season, tied for the sixth-most[/B].[/quote]
(emphasis mine)

3) Roullier was mostly given him a middle of the pack grade as a rookie. He can definitely improve this year.

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"Daron Payne also headed indoors after group work. He wasn’t hurt; it just appears the Redskins are being cautious with some picks."

I about fell out of my chair