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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1215616]Your post is rational, reasonable, and absolutely a non-starter for the Skins because:
1) we aren't going to have a new GM - maybe a few position name changes but even that's not likely
2) next year our qb play will be subpar and the AS salary cap will pop up as the new excuse for keeping Gruden
[B]3) the injury excuse will still be in play for JG as well since the team will not stop keeping injured talent way past the point they should have been let go[/B]
4) it's the Redskins and DS has gone from hyper quick to fire in the early years to holding on too long now.[/quote]

quoting myself as Gruden proves point 3:
[quote]@john_keim

Jay Gruden on TE Jordan Reed and his future “tight ends who can win against man and zone are hard to find.” Translation: not in a rush to move on from him.[/quote]

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What in the world was the purpose of that press conference? We learned nothing new from Gruden except that he has no intentions to change anything as long as he is coach and he doesn't even know if he will keep his job. For what little my opinion is worth, I don't agree with any of his assessments of the players or assistant coaches, and i do not believe that anything will change if he is retained as HC.

p.s. Let's hope that Joe Gibbs or somebody else Dan Snyder respects is trying to talk some sense into his head right this moment.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1215628]That doesn’t mean he won’t or will be told to do so.[/QUOTE]



You’re right. I was able to watch the whole press conference, and he actually said something to the effect of “i don’t even know why I’m doing this” (referring to the press conference).

He hasn’t heard from Snyder yet and has no idea when he’ll hear from him. Jay honestly seemed like a combination of defeated and insecure. Several times, he referred to “IF” he’s the coach next year. It was honestly quite surprising to see someone who is supposed to be the leader of the team show show such a lack of... leadership.

I’m beginning to think Snyder may be planning on a bigger shakeup than anticipated.



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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1215590]I believe that somebody who is very good would take the position.

If a qualified GM candidate:

1. Likes money
2. Wants to have one of the three dozen best jobs in sports
3. Writes himself a good contract
4. Insists that Bruce Allen (the master underminer of all his perceived rivals) no longer be in the organization in any capacity
5. Most importantly, is a strong personality who believes in himself and will not be swayed by [U]anyone[/U] to make poor football decisions,

then it doesn't have to be an unattractive position.[/quote]

That is a lot of ifs and I am not sure the #2 applies for the Skins anymore. That is some Dan Snyder thinking that the Skins job is more attractive than it seems. Matty is right the overall perception of the organization means that it is an unattractive option in the national pool of candidates.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1215632]That is a lot of ifs and I am not sure the #2 applies for the Skins anymore. That is some Dan Snyder thinking that the Skins job is more attractive than it seems. Matty is right the overall perception of the organization means that it is an unattractive option in the national pool of candidates.[/quote]

Oh, I'm not kidding myself about the difficulties in hiring a top-notch GM. No challenging task has ever been accomplished by agonizing over the difficulties faced versus getting to work on making it happen.

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Gruden looks like a beaten man. That's got to be giving Snyder pause about retaining him.

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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1215631]You’re right. I was able to watch the whole press conference, and he actually said something to the effect of “i don’t even know why I’m doing this” (referring to the press conference).

He hasn’t heard from Snyder yet and has no idea when he’ll hear from him. Jay honestly seemed like a combination of defeated and insecure. Several times, he referred to “IF” he’s the coach next year. It was honestly quite surprising to see someone who is supposed to be the leader of the team show show such a lack of... leadership.

I’m beginning to think Snyder may be planning on a bigger shakeup than anticipated.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Watching JGs press conference now, he can't be the coach next year. Nothing would change at all. I hope your last paragraph is the right one and DS is looking for the way to hand off the team completely. This can't be his idea of fun.

Just ended, and maybe JG will be gone. He left that podium and looked like thank god that's over.

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I'm not watching the press conference but from the tone here it seems Gruden has been worn out by this mediocre season. Maybe we are looking at a full rebuild.

Also if Gruden has no idea why he's even having a press conference why is he even up there?

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1215636]Watching JGs press conference now, he can't be the coach next year. Nothing would change at all. I hope your last paragraph is the right one and DS is looking for the way to hand off the team completely. This can't be his idea of fun.

Gruden sucks at his press conference.[/QUOTE]



Gruden looked so defeated. Its almost like Snyder called Him right before he went up to the podium and said “your dog just died. Also you’re fired. oh, and one more thing.... I’m in bed with your wife.”


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[quote=mooby;1215638]I'm not watching the press conference but from the tone here it seems Gruden has been worn out by this mediocre season. Maybe we are looking at a full rebuild.

Also if Gruden has no idea why he's even having a press conference why is he even up there?[/quote]

Well, according to Gruden - if he's back nothing changes - he keeps Reed, Crowder, PSmith if he is affordable. It's not going to be a full rebuild if JG stays.

As to why he was up there, it probably was standard practice to have a Monday recap, but it sounds like the whole team is in standby mode waiting for word from the top. If nothing changes Gruden said that the coordinators will give him their evaluations by Friday...

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Isn't it just normal procedure for the HC to have a season ending presser? I don't think it's anything unusual.

If he didn't have one today everyone would be speculating something's up.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1215641]Isn't it just normal procedure for the HC to have a season ending presser? I don't think it's anything unusual.



If he didn't have one today everyone would be speculating something's up.[/QUOTE]



Exactly - which is what makes Gruden’s comment so telling.

Something is definitely up.


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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1215644]Exactly - which is what makes Gruden’s comment so telling.

Something is definitely up.


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I don’t see anything.


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Is something up? Is something not up?

Stay tuned for tomorrow's episode of "Dysfunction in DC: a Red***** Story"

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The fact that Gruden said there has been no communication about the future does seem to say that some thing is going on, or it means the Skins have slipped into some realm of dysfunction the NFL has never seen. BOTH options seem on the table

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If Snyder is planning to make changes, he’d better hurry up. The available pool of GMs, head coaches, and assistants is only going to get smaller


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[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1215652]If Snyder is planning to make changes, he’d better hurry up. The available pool of GMs, head coaches, and assistants is only going to get smaller


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Well, you said we’d see everything in 24 hours, 22 hours ago


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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1215629]quoting myself as Gruden proves point 3:[/quote]

The team should make every attempt to move Reed this offseason and they need to cut VD as well.

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I said it earlier today, but I think Gibbs and Snyder are working on a buyout. Not a complete selling of the team, but Gibbs becomes the majority owner, and Snyder et al take on a minority position. (Unless Gibbs has the financial wherewithal to do a full buyout). I think that is the only thing that makes sense, when you add the story about DS' obliviousness, the complete silence on all fronts about any possible changes at any level, and the delay in reasonable actions.

Of course this is pie in the sky wishful thinking...

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1215660]I said it earlier today, but I think Gibbs and Snyder are working on a buyout. Not a complete selling of the team, but Gibbs becomes the majority owner, and Snyder et al take on a minority position. (Unless Gibbs has the financial wherewithal to do a full buyout). I think that is the only thing that makes sense, when you add the story about DS' obliviousness, the complete silence on all fronts about any possible changes at any level, and the delay in reasonable actions.

Of course this is pie in the sky wishful thinking...[/quote]

This would make me cry in front of my children (happy cry).

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1215660]I said it earlier today, but I think Gibbs and Snyder are working on a buyout. Not a complete selling of the team, but Gibbs becomes the majority owner, and Snyder et al take on a minority position. (Unless Gibbs has the financial wherewithal to do a full buyout). I think that is the only thing that makes sense, when you add the story about DS' obliviousness, the complete silence on all fronts about any possible changes at any level, and the delay in reasonable actions.

Of course this is pie in the sky wishful thinking...[/quote]

This is the most fantastical thing I've seen out of you yet Cred. Quit getting these poor souls hopes up.

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[quote=mooby;1215662]This is the most fantastical thing I've seen out of you yet Cred. Quit getting these poor souls hopes up.[/quote]

Yeah. Google tells me that Gibbs net worth is $60 million. He would only need to come up with about 3 billion more.

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1215665]Yeah. Google tells me that Gibbs net worth is $60 million. He would only need to come up with about 3 billion more.[/quote]

but what if Bezos funded it????

Bezos and Gibbs were listed separately in a Forbes article about the Panthers sale, Bezos owns the Washington Post, Gibbs would be the Face of the Franchise Owner (or GM)

HMMMMM????
[URL="https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/12/18/here-are-12-potential-new-owners-of-the-carolina-panthers/#263b1424be16"]https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/12/18/here-are-12-potential-new-owners-of-the-carolina-panthers/#263b1424be16[/URL]
[quote]Jeff Bezos: The Amazon founder is now the richest person on the planet at $99.8 billion as of Monday morning. Bezos has not expressed interest in buying a pro sports team but could certainly afford it and has made outside the box investments like his purchase of the Washington Post. Bezos could be an invaluable resource to the NFL as it sorts out its future streaming options for its games.

Joe Gibbs: The Hall of Fame football coach is a local and well-liked, but doesn't have the funds to headline a bid. He is also 77 years old and still busy with his Nascar squad.[/quote]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1215666]but what if Bezos funded it????

Bezos and Gibbs were listed separately in a Forbes article about the Panthers sale, Bezos owns the Washington Post, Gibbs would be the Face of the Franchise Owner (or GM)

HMMMMM????[/quote]

I hate you and your false hopes.

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[url]https://twitter.com/BurgundyBlog/status/1079852384573116422?s=20[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1215666]but what if Bezos funded it????

Bezos and Gibbs were listed separately in a Forbes article about the Panthers sale, Bezos owns the Washington Post, Gibbs would be the Face of the Franchise Owner (or GM)

HMMMMM????
[URL="https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/12/18/here-are-12-potential-new-owners-of-the-carolina-panthers/#263b1424be16"]https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/12/18/here-are-12-potential-new-owners-of-the-carolina-panthers/#263b1424be16[/URL][/quote]

A. Jeff Bezos would never enter an ownership group, he could buy the Redskins outright.

B. Jeff Bezos according to Google makes roughly 275 mil a day, so he could buy the Redskins on about 10 days salary.

C. Why would Bezos want to be part of an ownership group when he doesn't need to be?

D. Would you really want Jeff frickin' Bezos as your majority owner? I'm not convinced he'd be any better than Snyder.

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[quote=mooby;1215669]A. Jeff Bezos would never enter an ownership group, he could buy the Redskins outright.

B. Jeff Bezos according to Google makes roughly 275 mil a day, so he could buy the Redskins on about 10 days salary.

C. Why would Bezos want to be part of an ownership group when he doesn't need to be?

D. Would you really want Jeff frickin' Bezos as your majority owner? I'm not convinced he'd be any better than Snyder.[/quote]

I think if he didn't want to run the team or oversee it, bringing Gibbs in as your partner would be the way to do it.

My mind is blowing thinking about this thing that WILL NOT happen. If sometime today it was announced that Bezos was going to buy the team (99 percent silent owner) with Gibbs as a partner (1 percent acting owner) I would absolutely die.

And, I know that a lot of you will disagree about this part, but if that announcement were followed with a name change (that keeps the logo and just makes the name more palatable - switch back to Braves even) and a plan to move back to the RFK location, I would fall out with happiness.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1215668][url]https://twitter.com/BurgundyBlog/status/1079852384573116422?s=20[/url]

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That could mean there was nothing to stay in Landover for, meaning no changes are being made


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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1215666]but what if Bezos funded it????

Bezos and Gibbs were listed separately in a Forbes article about the Panthers sale, Bezos owns the Washington Post, Gibbs would be the Face of the Franchise Owner (or GM)

HMMMMM????
[URL="https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/12/18/here-are-12-potential-new-owners-of-the-carolina-panthers/#263b1424be16"]https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2017/12/18/here-are-12-potential-new-owners-of-the-carolina-panthers/#263b1424be16[/URL][/quote]

F...!! Bezos!! He would want to rename the team.

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I wish someone in this organization gave a shit


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1215673]That could mean there was nothing to stay in Landover for, meaning no changes are being made


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He went to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein at orgy island.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1215676]I wish someone in this organization gave a shit


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The apathy the fans showed this season...let’s be honest, the fan base is nearing rock bottom. the response by the organization this offseason will tell me if they give a shit or not. Right now, Snyder and the Lafemina embarrassment, I don’t expect them to do the right thing.

The right thing Right Now is to remove Bruce Allen from the organization. I can’t believe the Washington media, fans, etc aren’t screaming for this more at the moment. Bruce Allen needs to go now.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1215678]The apathy the fans showed this season...let’s be honest, the fan base is nearing rock bottom. the response by the organization this offseason will tell me if they give a shit or not. Right now, Snyder and the Lafemina embarrassment, I don’t expect them to do the right thing.



The right thing Right Now is to remove Bruce Allen from the organization. I can’t believe the Washington media, fans, etc aren’t screaming for this more at the moment. Bruce Allen needs to go now.[/QUOTE]



They are. I read an article where the interns at Redskins Park were losing their shit from fielding so many calls from angry fans. I think at some point Snyder stopped caring about football as long as they keep bringing in money, who cares what the fans want.


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I do think it’s weird that nobody has heard from Dan Snyder and official word from the top hasn’t come yet. Eerily quiet at Redskins park.


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He’s probably working on trying to get Bill Cowher out of retirement


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This team does every fucking thing ass backwards.

If they actually tried to do it ass backwards they would walk in face first.

Just straight incompetence.

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1215655]Well, you said we’d see everything in 24 hours, 22 hours ago


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I still have an hour :-)


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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1215660]I said it earlier today, but I think Gibbs and Snyder are working on a buyout. Not a complete selling of the team, but Gibbs becomes the majority owner, and Snyder et al take on a minority position. (Unless Gibbs has the financial wherewithal to do a full buyout). I think that is the only thing that makes sense, when you add the story about DS' obliviousness, the complete silence on all fronts about any possible changes at any level, and the delay in reasonable actions.



Of course this is pie in the sky wishful thinking...[/QUOTE]



Majority owner? How much dough do you think Gibbs has?

A quick google search says his net worth is $60M. That’s not enough to put him in the ballgame by a long shot.



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At the 3:10 mark of this video, "We are changing from a code 3 direct pursuit to Code 347 completely lost due to incompetence. "

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S7AMveTOLQ"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S7AMveTOLQ[/URL]

Some serious musician in this band called YESCA.
Maybe smoking some weed might help Snyder and Allen.

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[quote=MTK;1215686]Majority owner? How much dough do you think Gibbs has?

A quick google search says his net worth is $60M. That’s not enough to put him in the ballgame by a long shot.



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Yeah I added Bezos as a silent owner, but with the news that DS may have gone to the Bahamas, my new wishful thinking is that DS sells to JKC's son again with Gibbs as the face of the new ownership group.