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[quote=EdmundDorf;1313226]Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Commanders have released offensive lineman Ereck Flowers, per his agent
@DrewJRosenhaus
. He now will be a free agent[/quote]

Who needs guards.

Maybe we will be trying a 4 linemen formation. T, C, T, TE.

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1313226]Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Commanders have released offensive lineman Ereck Flowers, per his agent
@DrewJRosenhaus
. He now will be a free agent[/QUOTE]


Ok than. Add another need. [emoji1750]
Flowers
McKissic
Scherrff
Matty I
Settle
Collins

Brutal. Someone wake me up when the good news that was supposed to be this off-season full of promise starts. So far Im not seeing this. Im sure since I posted this we have let Way, Fuller, Curl, Logan Thomas, and Gibson go. Lololol

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We didn't resign Settle and released Ioannidis. I don't even know who is the next on the depth chart behind Allen and Payne..

Surprised about Flowers too.

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Do they need that much cap space for 1 player?

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1313232]Who needs guards.

Maybe we will be trying a 4 linemen formation. T, C, T, TE.[/QUOTE]


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This team now has massive holes to fill, 2 G’s, T depth, Dline depth, wr -2, mlb, S. More depth on top of that really across the board - TE, Corner, RB. Wow. Carson better be 2017 Carson. We better draft at least 3 day one starters who contribute, and there better be one or two big names coming in free agency or seriously WTF did we just do?

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IM fine not paying guards 10M plus ... but on the condition we have upper tier tackles and Leno/Lucas/Cosmi are nice players but not upper tier. Cosmi could be that.

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Tanking for a QB in '23?

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[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/16/commanders-to-release-matt-ioannidis/[/url]


Commanders releasing Matt Ianidoas.

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[quote=punch it in;1313238]This team now has massive holes to fill, 2 G’s, T depth, Dline depth, wr -2, mlb, S. More depth on top of that really across the board - TE, Corner, RB. Wow. Carson better be 2017 Carson. We better draft at least 3 day one starters who contribute, and there better be one or two big names coming in free agency or seriously WTF did we just do?[/quote]

Trading down from 11 might be a requirement at this point. We need players, like in sheer numbers.

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JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
· 10m
This makes a lot of sense. Been told they have "a plan" after Flowers release


John Keim
@john_keim
· 16m
One thing to keep in mind: G Andrew Norwell is a free agent. Still very good. Played for Carolina from 2014-17. Don't know if this is the plan, but clearly something changed with Flowers. To me, you're not making that move if you don't have a plan ... I hope.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1313242]Trading down from 11 might be a requirement at this point. We need players, like in sheer numbers.[/QUOTE]


At this point we have neither quality or quantity. It is a recipe for disaster. We could trade back and pick up more “unknowns” which leaves with the same quantity and probably less quality. I mean at the end of the day we are going to have 53 players like everyone else. Idk this is like the massacre of March 16th right now. The probable upgrade (wentz over TH) seemed great, but right now Id gladly have TH, the players we let go, a few key free agent ACQUISITIONS and our picks, take Willis at 11. Does 32 (at the start of the season) year old Bobby Wagner even make this team better if that is the guy we are making room for? Does any free agent signing make this better?

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Gs - Wes and Saahdiq. I thought Saahdiq played okay at G in his spot duty last year. Im not worried about finding a starter level guard, there out there to be had for 3-6M per.

TEs - starter in Logan and TE2 in Bates. Sign Ricky or find a TE3.

T - leno, cosmi starters with lucas as the swing. Saahdiq can slide to T in worst case scenario.

DL depth -- need

WR2 -- we got Curtis Samuel who was a dud last year but he should be good to go this year.

MLB - need

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Only starter needs we have imo:

G
MLB

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Norwell > Flowers

Norwell for less than 10M >>>>> Flowers at 10M

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Lucas is a FA and doesn't look like he wants to come back

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Think we also need RB, FS and CB depth.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1313247]Lucas is a FA and doesn't look like he wants to come back[/quote]

ohh thats right. If there are 64 starting tackles in the league, he is about no. 55 on my list. Low end starter but great next man up swing tackle. He bailed us out the past 2 years with his availability.

We can find another Lucas type player.

I hope Lucas signs on somewhere for starter money.

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They do have Wise and Rotimi who they seemed to like last year, wonder if that is their DT depth plan.

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JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
·
1m
Well this might change some opinions
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
· 1m
RB J.D. McKissic - who intended to sign a two-year, $7 million deal with the Buffalo Bills - changed his mind and is instead returning to Washington for the same compensation, per sources.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1313251]JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
·
1m
Well this might change some opinions
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
· 1m
RB J.D. McKissic - who intended to sign a two-year, $7 million deal with the Buffalo Bills - changed his mind and is instead returning to Washington for the same compensation, per sources.[/quote]

But I thought no one wanted to come here?

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1313251]JP Finlay
@JPFinlayNBCS
·
1m
Well this might change some opinions
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
· 1m
RB J.D. McKissic - who intended to sign a two-year, $7 million deal with the Buffalo Bills - changed his mind and is instead returning to Washington for the same compensation, per sources.[/quote]

Lol.. If this is true, I think this says something about our coaches and team. Not many players would turn down the opportunity to play for a SB contender team, just to return to a team that struggles to even make it to playoffs.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1313246]Gs - Wes and Saahdiq. I thought Saahdiq played okay at G in his spot duty last year. Im not worried about finding a starter level guard, there out there to be had for 3-6M per.

TEs - starter in Logan and TE2 in Bates. Sign Ricky or find a TE3.

T - leno, cosmi starters with lucas as the swing. Saahdiq can slide to T in worst case scenario.

DL depth -- need

WR2 -- we got Curtis Samuel who was a dud last year but he should be good to go this year.

MLB - need

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Only starter needs we have imo:

G
MLB

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Norwell > Flowers

Norwell for less than 10M >>>>> Flowers at 10M[/QUOTE]


Alot of if’s.
Id say McKissic needs to be replaced certainly. We definitely need starting S.

Edit: didn’t see that McKissic is now coming back? That is a plus. A huge plus. Might be a move worthy of a jersey purchase if he turned down Buffalo to stay put. Lol.

So …
G
G
S
MLB
DL depth
Possible help at LT.
WR-2 Samuel will remain a non factor until he actually takes the field.

McKissic just saved me from jumping though.

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Okay so my delusional rant about the FO was a little bit off , we get one a year right?

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mckissic coming back?

a reverse gregory?

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I'm surprised about Flowers, but he was a target to be restructured, he probably said no and wanted to hit the FA market.

Glad to have JD back.

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[quote=punch it in;1313254]Alot of if’s.
Id say McKissic needs to be replaced certainly. We definitely need starting S.[/quote]

Well that has been taken care of, you obviously have great connections

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[quote=Ruhskins;1313252]But I thought no one wanted to come here?[/quote]

One guy changing his mind doesn't change the facts.

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Not real impressed w/ the front office so far.

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1313258]Well that has been taken care of, you obviously have great connections[/QUOTE]


You’re welcome. I mean who better to replace McKissic with than McKissic. I just thought it made sense.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1313259]One guy changing his mind doesn't change the facts.[/quote]

McKissic just turned down a potential SB contender team to come here for the same amount of money.

We're not a model franchise and have a lot of issues, but some of you acting like we're the worst and complaining about it is getting a bit old.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1313232]Who needs guards.

Maybe we will be trying a 4 linemen formation. T, C, T, TE.[/quote]

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1313256]mckissic coming back?

a reverse gregory?[/QUOTE]


A reverse gregory sounds like a weird sexual position that i never want to be a part of.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1313261]Not real impressed w/ the front office so far.[/quote]

You are not alone ot seems


Locked On Commanders Podcast
@LOCommanders
Some strong words from Matt Ioannidis' agent towards the #Commanders
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Stephen Whyno
@SWhyno
· 11m
Commanders cutting Ereck Flowers and Matt Ioannidis to clear cap space.

Ioannidis agent Alan Herman: "We don't particularly care to be lied to our face. ... That's not the way you conduct business in the National Football League."

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[quote=punch it in;1313266]A reverse gregory sounds like a weird sexual position that i never want to be a part of.[/quote]

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[quote=punch it in;1313262]You’re welcome. I mean who better to replace McKissic with than McKissic. I just thought it made sense.[/quote]

who is reporting this.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1313263]McKissic just turned down a potential SB contender team to come here for the same amount of money.

We're not a model franchise and have a lot of issues, but some of you acting like we're the worst and complaining about it is getting a bit old.[/quote]

Agreed.

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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
·
2m
Background on the change of heart: Washington initially didn’t offer J.D. McKissic a deal - until he agreed to one in Buffalo, per his agents Doug Hendrickson and CJ LaBoy. Once McKissic heard Washington was willing to match the offer, he didn’t want to leave.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1313263]McKissic just turned down a potential SB contender team to come here for the same amount of money.

We're not a model franchise and have a lot of issues, but some of you acting like we're the worst and complaining about it is getting a bit old.[/QUOTE]


Ruh man your optimism is commendable, seriously. But over the last 30 years we are very close to being the worst on the field. We are top 5. Off the field, we could be considered the worst.

It isn’t like anyone is exaggerating our woes. To me the losing and the shenanigans are way older than the absolutely warranted complaints. Getting McKissic back is awesome and as a fan I applaud his loyalty- it doesn’t change 30 years though brother. Let’s win more games than we lose for a little while and than we can start complaining about the complaining. Lol.



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[quote=EdmundDorf;1313273]Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
·
2m
Background on the change of heart: Washington initially didn’t offer J.D. McKissic a deal - until he agreed to one in Buffalo, per his agents Doug Hendrickson and CJ LaBoy. Once McKissic heard Washington was willing to match the offer, he didn’t want to leave.[/quote]

I went to Buffalo a month ago; great team just a frozen shit hole of a city.

anywho welcome back!

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Ioannidis agent Alan Herman: "We don't particularly care to be lied to our face. ... That's not the way you conduct business in the National Football League."

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Running to the media and slinging poop isnt a good way to conduct business in the NFL either. This isnt Bruce Allen hes trying to smear.

I think this agent might have fired off a hot tweet when he should have waited 24 hours to see if he still thought it was smart